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Jim Rog · September 26th, 2005, 12:38 PM

Hi

Been looking at getting a new TV the one im looking at says it has 1365 x 768 pixels wega engine what I would like to know please is this going to be good enough to view the FX1 footage at its best? does 1365 x 768 pixels mean 1080i? 720p or what? any help would very much be appreciated.

Thanks

Boyd Ostroff · September 26th, 2005, 12:48 PM

The ideal would be 1920x1080, however I'm not sure whether you'll see a whole lot of difference. As long as the TV can accept a 1080i signal then it should work with the FX1 - look at the spec sheet. Almost all HDTV's can do this, they use an internal scaler to match the 1080i raw signal to the screen's native resolution.

Steve Crisdale · September 26th, 2005, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim Rog

Hi

Been looking at getting a new TV the one im looking at says it has 1365 x 768 pixels wega engine what I would like to know please is this going to be good enough to view the FX1 footage at its best? does 1365 x 768 pixels mean 1080i? 720p or what? any help would very much be appreciated.

Thanks

You'll be able top watch your FX-1e clips at their best on such a set.

If the pixel count was lower than 1280 horizontal or 720 vertical, then you'd be in trouble!!!

You'll also be pleased that being in PAL territory, the HDTV you're looking at will no doubt be multi-scan and capable of displaying NTSC/PAL of all flavours.

Why don't you take your FX-1e into the showroom and hitch it up via the component cable to any of the sets you're thinking of purchasing? Then you'll be certain about the quality of the HDTV, matched to the 1080i coming from the cam before you lay down the readies...

Jim Rog · September 27th, 2005, 02:51 AM

Thanks for the reply guys

The one iv been looking at is this one http://www.sony.co.uk/view/ShowProdu...=TVP+Plasma+TV http://www.dealclick.co.uk/product/1...KDEP50MRX1.php im trying to find the PDF spec sheet to download but cant seem to find it anywhere, I saw somewhere its says HD READY but not HD compatible but what I think this means is it can display HD but when sky go live with there HD in 2006 it wont be able to receive it unless I buy a box for it. Sony centre have very little in them so not much chance of hooking the camera up to a set in the shops. Do you guys know what connection the TV needs to plug the camera up to it with the very best picture/sound quality? I thought it was firewire but can’t seem to find any TV with them on but I know they are out there.

Thanks

Boyd Ostroff · September 27th, 2005, 03:16 AM

Phew, I'll bet that's expensive :-) The specs are a little sparse there, but it does indicate it has component video input. So you can just plug in the component cable from your FX1 and get high quality. Firewire is a little more exotic feature for a TV set, although I suppose some of the high end products may have it. However, I'm not sure whether it would be compatible with the firewire implementation on your camcorder.

Jim Rog · September 27th, 2005, 05:36 AM

Hi

Yes very expensive coming in at around $12,368, guess you’re paying for the design concept and the 50" screen size. Yes you’re correct since the FX1 has component then that's the way it’s going to have to be connected together.

Thanks for the help.

Wojtek Tryc · September 27th, 2005, 05:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim Rog

Hi

Been looking at getting a new TV the one im looking at says it has 1365 x 768 pixels wega engine what I would like to know please is this going to be good enough to view the FX1 footage at its best? does 1365 x 768 pixels mean 1080i? 720p or what? any help would very much be appreciated.

Thanks

TO get optimum image you need 1080i/p vertical resolution. You will need 1920x1080 TV (Westinghouse, BenQ etc). The 1280x720 or 1368x768 units will "only" display 720p pixel by pixel and will interpolate down 1080i to 720p.
Regards,
Wojtek

Jim Rog · September 27th, 2005, 05:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Steve Crisdale

You'll be able top watch your FX-1e clips at their best on such a set.

If the pixel count was lower than 1280 horizontal or 720 vertical, then you'd be in trouble!!!

You'll also be pleased that being in PAL territory, the HDTV you're looking at will no doubt be multi-scan and capable of displaying NTSC/PAL of all flavours.

Why don't you take your FX-1e into the showroom and hitch it up via the component cable to any of the sets you're thinking of purchasing? Then you'll be certain about the quality of the HDTV, matched to the 1080i coming from the cam before you lay down the readies...

Thanks for the advice there

read over it a bit quick before and did not see the bit where you said about the component cable but now I see it.

Thanks for the help

Mike Teutsch · September 27th, 2005, 06:01 AM

Wow, that is quite a set. It should look great with the camera attached.

I have the 50" DLP Wega, and I love it. I hook my JVC JY-HD10u up to it with component cable and it is great.

I checked the specs on the site you posted, and it says it has the digital tuner. That is the tuner for over-the-air HD broadcasts, and it is in my too. I can only get one regular channel here that is HD, but looks so good! Good news is that it is my Monday Night Football channel!!!! Pretty soon many more I hope.

Good luck with it!

Mike

Adrian Vallarino · September 27th, 2005, 10:43 AM

http://vpo3.virtualpressoffice.com/c...=1127769028135

take a look

Jim Rog · September 27th, 2005, 10:55 AM

that's a monitor not a TV right? or is it both?

Adrian Vallarino · September 27th, 2005, 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim Rog

that's a monitor not a TV right? or is it both?

Monitor, but you can always buy a $30 VHS recorder and use it as a tuner for SD tv. For HD youll probably get a box from your provider.

James Sarte · September 27th, 2005, 01:05 PM

I use a Samsung HLN5065W - 50" DLP TV. 1080i and 720p both look incredible. The TV can be purchased for about $2500 new.

Colin Pearce · September 27th, 2005, 03:41 PM

I went to the Sony builiding in Ginza, Tokyo in June this year. They had 2 or 3 displays playing Blu-Ray discs on Sony plasma screens. They were very, very impressive - much better than any HD I have seen before. I guess the size was about 55"-65". Does anyone know what model and resolution they were, please?

Steve Crisdale · September 27th, 2005, 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim Rog

that's a monitor not a TV right? or is it both?

Unfortunately for those looking at the 'best' options available for viewing their HD material, the line between monitor and 'TV' is becoming a little less defined these days... Generally a 'monitor' is not going to be as effective for "all-round" HD playback as a multi-synch HDTV, but that distinction is diminishing in relevance as connectivity between PC and HDTV become easier and easier...

The best thing to ask yourself to help make the decision is - how big do I want my HD viewing screen to be?

Because it's obvious you're looking at more than 28" or 76cm, the HDTV option becomes much more viable. There aren't many 'monitors' that are larger than 28", and those that are are a hell of a lot more expensive than a similar size HDTV.

I know that the unit you're looking at has more than enough resolution to handle HD quality playback - I was just a little concerned to see you write "I saw somewhere its says HD READY but not HD compatible".... Yikes!!!

That's like a Real-Estate agent telling you that a house is "resident ready but not resident compatible". I hope you take my meaning... Many folks here in Oz have been suckered by that one. HD ready and HD compatible ultimately mean - SD quality ONLY!! Sales people will try to pull the ole' "this unit is fully Digital Sir!", "of course it can handle HD - HD is digital..." if they sense someone doesn't walk the walk or know the talk :)

Are you intending expanding the functionality of your intended HDTV purchase at some point? i.e. with a digital amp, or network media player? If so, be sure to check the capabilities of the SCART connectors. We don't use SCART much if at all here in Oz, but I recall that HD is possible over SCART - just not sure how it's implemented. I'm also not certain that the single Component connector won't prove a bottle-neck for device connection if you want to expand your set-up.

There does appear to be either an RGB/DVI connector for PC attachment, so you may be able to connect a PC with DVB-t card to give yourself a pseudo HD broadcast video recorder.

Anyway; now that I've filled your head with visions of Sugar-plums and fairies...

Hope it all works out for you!! :)

September 26th, 2005, 12:38 PM	#1
Jim Rog Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: PAL Zone Posts: 188	New TV For My FX1? Hi Been looking at getting a new TV the one im looking at says it has 1365 x 768 pixels wega engine what I would like to know please is this going to be good enough to view the FX1 footage at its best? does 1365 x 768 pixels mean 1080i? 720p or what? any help would very much be appreciated. Thanks

September 27th, 2005, 06:01 AM	#9
Mike Teutsch Inner Circle Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Port St. Lucie, Florida Posts: 2,614	Wow, that is quite a set. It should look great with the camera attached. I have the 50" DLP Wega, and I love it. I hook my JVC JY-HD10u up to it with component cable and it is great. I checked the specs on the site you posted, and it says it has the digital tuner. That is the tuner for over-the-air HD broadcasts, and it is in my too. I can only get one regular channel here that is HD, but looks so good! Good news is that it is my Monday Night Football channel!!!! Pretty soon many more I hope. Good luck with it! Mike __________________ Chapter one, line one. The BH.

September 27th, 2005, 10:43 AM	#10
Adrian Vallarino Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Bevery Hills, CA Posts: 48	New SHarp pn-455 ... maybe it will work http://vpo3.virtualpressoffice.com/c...=1127769028135 take a look

September 26th, 2005, 12:48 PM	#2
Boyd Ostroff Wrangler Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Mays Landing, NJ Posts: 11,802	The ideal would be 1920x1080, however I'm not sure whether you'll see a whole lot of difference. As long as the TV can accept a 1080i signal then it should work with the FX1 - look at the spec sheet. Almost all HDTV's can do this, they use an internal scaler to match the 1080i raw signal to the screen's native resolution.

September 27th, 2005, 02:51 AM	#4
Jim Rog Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: PAL Zone Posts: 188	Thanks for the reply guys The one iv been looking at is this one http://www.sony.co.uk/view/ShowProdu...=TVP+Plasma+TV http://www.dealclick.co.uk/product/1...KDEP50MRX1.php im trying to find the PDF spec sheet to download but cant seem to find it anywhere, I saw somewhere its says HD READY but not HD compatible but what I think this means is it can display HD but when sky go live with there HD in 2006 it wont be able to receive it unless I buy a box for it. Sony centre have very little in them so not much chance of hooking the camera up to a set in the shops. Do you guys know what connection the TV needs to plug the camera up to it with the very best picture/sound quality? I thought it was firewire but can’t seem to find any TV with them on but I know they are out there. Thanks

September 27th, 2005, 03:16 AM	#5
Boyd Ostroff Wrangler Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Mays Landing, NJ Posts: 11,802	Phew, I'll bet that's expensive :-) The specs are a little sparse there, but it does indicate it has component video input. So you can just plug in the component cable from your FX1 and get high quality. Firewire is a little more exotic feature for a TV set, although I suppose some of the high end products may have it. However, I'm not sure whether it would be compatible with the firewire implementation on your camcorder.

September 27th, 2005, 05:36 AM	#6
Jim Rog Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: PAL Zone Posts: 188	Hi Yes very expensive coming in at around $12,368, guess you’re paying for the design concept and the 50" screen size. Yes you’re correct since the FX1 has component then that's the way it’s going to have to be connected together. Thanks for the help.

September 27th, 2005, 10:55 AM	#11
Jim Rog Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: PAL Zone Posts: 188	that's a monitor not a TV right? or is it both?

September 27th, 2005, 01:05 PM	#13
James Sarte Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: New York, NY Posts: 71	I use a Samsung HLN5065W - 50" DLP TV. 1080i and 720p both look incredible. The TV can be purchased for about $2500 new.

September 27th, 2005, 03:41 PM	#14
Colin Pearce Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 99	I went to the Sony builiding in Ginza, Tokyo in June this year. They had 2 or 3 displays playing Blu-Ray discs on Sony plasma screens. They were very, very impressive - much better than any HD I have seen before. I guess the size was about 55"-65". Does anyone know what model and resolution they were, please?