Sony PVM-1741 17" OLED at DVinfo.net

Craig Kovatch · July 15th, 2011, 10:26 PM

Has anyone seen or used this monitor yet? Has anyone tried color grading with an OLED display, and if so, how were the results? Are there any serious downsides to using OLED?

Cheers.

Craig.

Steve Kalle · July 16th, 2011, 03:39 PM

Have you ever used Sony's BVM series? Can you afford this monitor? Do you actually need this level of accuracy versus something like the Grade 1 Flanders Scientific LM-2461W ($5k)?

If you answer yes to all 3, then this Sony OLED is amazing. Its blacks are better than any LCD. If I needed this level of accuracy, I wouldn't hesitate to buy; however, my Grade 1 Panasonic broadcast LCD and my Eizo CG243W work great for my broadcast projects.

What sort of work do you need this for and what would you be replacing?

Craig Kovatch · October 14th, 2011, 11:56 AM

Hi Steve.

Sorry I missed your post for the last 90 days. I have not used the BVM series put did have a PVM a number of years ago. This monitor is not as expensive as the Flanders. It's under 4k. I'm actually a dealer for Panasonic and Sony's consumer lines, but they allow us to purchase pro gear at near cost, as long as it's for personal use. I'm debating between this monitor and the Panasonic BT-LH2550P. I like the idea of a 25" display, but I'm not kean on LCD. Which Panasonic monitor are you using?

Steve Kalle · October 14th, 2011, 01:40 PM

Hey Craig,

If you need a color critical monitor, then don't even wait another second - order the Sony. You will not be disappointed.

I have a recent video from my favorite educational/vfx training website, FXPHD.com where they discuss the Sony OLEDs as well as OLED in general. I recently watched it again (its from a few months ago) and I believe OLED's only weakness is flickering like the old CRTs.

Some benefits:
1) True blacks whereas LCDs lose chromacity as it nears black so very dark colors lose their color and become just black.
2) LCD has motion blur issues whereas OLED does not.
3) Far wider gamut can be displayed versus LCD.

I have the Panasonic BT-LH1710W which costs about $2800 and is only 1366x768. I also have an Eizo CG243W ($2300) connected via DisplayPort to my PC so I get 10bit from Windows 7, Premiere Pro CS5 and my Quadro FX3800.

If I needed something like the 17" monitor, I would do it different - either the Flanders Scientific 17" LED or the Sony 17" OLED PVM-1741 for $3600. I like the Sony because it is 1920x1080 whereas the Flanders is only 768p. However, the Flanders LM-1760WF can be powered by a brick battery (AB or v-mount) using only 39 watts.

I have used the Sony 7.4" OLED (PVM740) and if the larger PVM-1741 is anything like its smaller brother, then this monitor will be amazing.

Shaun Roemich · October 14th, 2011, 02:10 PM

Saw it the other day. Wasn't AS stunning as it's big brothers but very nice nevertheless.

Craig Kovatch · October 14th, 2011, 08:20 PM

Steve, have you used a 17" monitor for color correction? How well did it work? I'm worried it might be a bit on the small side.

July 15th, 2011, 10:26 PM	#1
Craig Kovatch Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Hay River, Canada Posts: 85	Sony PVM-1741 17" OLED Has anyone seen or used this monitor yet? Has anyone tried color grading with an OLED display, and if so, how were the results? Are there any serious downsides to using OLED? Cheers. Craig.

July 16th, 2011, 03:39 PM	#2
Steve Kalle Trustee Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 1,554	Re: Sony PVM-1741 17" OLED Have you ever used Sony's BVM series? Can you afford this monitor? Do you actually need this level of accuracy versus something like the Grade 1 Flanders Scientific LM-2461W ($5k)? If you answer yes to all 3, then this Sony OLED is amazing. Its blacks are better than any LCD. If I needed this level of accuracy, I wouldn't hesitate to buy; however, my Grade 1 Panasonic broadcast LCD and my Eizo CG243W work great for my broadcast projects. What sort of work do you need this for and what would you be replacing?

October 14th, 2011, 11:56 AM	#3
Craig Kovatch Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Hay River, Canada Posts: 85	Re: Sony PVM-1741 17" OLED Hi Steve. Sorry I missed your post for the last 90 days. I have not used the BVM series put did have a PVM a number of years ago. This monitor is not as expensive as the Flanders. It's under 4k. I'm actually a dealer for Panasonic and Sony's consumer lines, but they allow us to purchase pro gear at near cost, as long as it's for personal use. I'm debating between this monitor and the Panasonic BT-LH2550P. I like the idea of a 25" display, but I'm not kean on LCD. Which Panasonic monitor are you using?

October 14th, 2011, 01:40 PM	#4
Steve Kalle Trustee Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 1,554	Re: Sony PVM-1741 17" OLED Hey Craig, If you need a color critical monitor, then don't even wait another second - order the Sony. You will not be disappointed. I have a recent video from my favorite educational/vfx training website, FXPHD.com where they discuss the Sony OLEDs as well as OLED in general. I recently watched it again (its from a few months ago) and I believe OLED's only weakness is flickering like the old CRTs. Some benefits: 1) True blacks whereas LCDs lose chromacity as it nears black so very dark colors lose their color and become just black. 2) LCD has motion blur issues whereas OLED does not. 3) Far wider gamut can be displayed versus LCD. I have the Panasonic BT-LH1710W which costs about $2800 and is only 1366x768. I also have an Eizo CG243W ($2300) connected via DisplayPort to my PC so I get 10bit from Windows 7, Premiere Pro CS5 and my Quadro FX3800. If I needed something like the 17" monitor, I would do it different - either the Flanders Scientific 17" LED or the Sony 17" OLED PVM-1741 for $3600. I like the Sony because it is 1920x1080 whereas the Flanders is only 768p. However, the Flanders LM-1760WF can be powered by a brick battery (AB or v-mount) using only 39 watts. I have used the Sony 7.4" OLED (PVM740) and if the larger PVM-1741 is anything like its smaller brother, then this monitor will be amazing.

October 14th, 2011, 02:10 PM	#5
Shaun Roemich Inner Circle Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Vancouver, British Columbia (formerly Winnipeg, Manitoba) Canada Posts: 4,088	Re: Sony PVM-1741 17" OLED Saw it the other day. Wasn't AS stunning as it's big brothers but very nice nevertheless. __________________ Shaun C. Roemich Road Dog Media - Vancouver, BC - Videographer - Webcaster www.roaddogmedia.ca Blog: http://roaddogmedia.wordpress.com/

October 14th, 2011, 08:20 PM	#6
Craig Kovatch Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Hay River, Canada Posts: 85	Re: Sony PVM-1741 17" OLED Steve, have you used a 17" monitor for color correction? How well did it work? I'm worried it might be a bit on the small side.