What is needed between Comp and Monitor, for color correcting? at DVinfo.net

Jeff Troiano · December 24th, 2010, 07:10 AM

I've been browsing around the monitor section, for the last few weeks, checking out posts here and there. I understand the need for a quality monitor, for use in color correcting, and also the need for proper calibration. What I'm a bit fuzzy on is the correct way to connect the monitor to the computer, so that it gets the right signal for accurate color reproduction? I like to try and search past threads, to try and answer my questions, but I guess what I'm reading isn't registering in my head.

So my question is, besides a computer, good monitor, and calibration software/device, what is needed to go between the comp and the monitor?

I've seen mention of the Matrix MXO2 mini, I've checked it out on B&H, but I'm still not fully understanding. Could someone be kind enough to give me a little incite? I'm not against spending money to get things correct. I'd much prefer to stay closer to 2k (or less) then 5k plus, but I like to get things done right the first time, and sometimes that means not skimping.

I'm using a Mac Pro, with a Quadro 4000 video card. Programs are Apples FC studio, and Adobe CS5 (and someday possibly Cinema 4D).

I read the thread about using Premier, and being able to output propor signal for accurate color, but I'd like to set up so that I'm getting true color no matter what program I'm using.

Thank you for the help, and information.
Jeff

Ryan Sarver · December 24th, 2010, 09:19 AM

What kind of monitor are you trying to connect? If you are using a computer monitor then the MXO is what you want not the mxo2. MXO is a box for pass through of the DVI signal. Mxo2 mini output hdmi and component.

If you really want to get good color accuracy, then get a real broadcast monitor and output card like a kona lhe and pair it with a Flander Scientific monitor. Above 2k but below 5k considerably.

Jeff Troiano · December 24th, 2010, 09:45 AM

I haven't gotten a monitor for color correcting yet. Trying to figure out what is what. I'm looking to add what I need too, so that I can have a reasonable setup, but since I don't know what it is I'm looking to add to make this happen, that's what I'm trying to find out.

I'm not asking for specific hardware, simply the reasoning for getting hardware at all.

Like, will a Quadro 4000 video card output the right signal, to connect to <insert hardware or monitor here>?

Or do I need to find a different graphics card to connect to a calibrated monitor (most likely a lcd)?

If I have a special graphics card, and proper monitor, do I need an in between for them? If I do, or don't, can anyone explain why? I'm just trying to gain the knowlege, so I kind of know what I'm suppose to do.

I'm not looking for someone to go tell me to by product "X" or "Y", but the reasons why I need those products. If there is a book, or website tutorial, a link would be perfect. I have a stack of books on various aspects of what I'm trying to do, so I don't always need someone to hold my hand the whole way, just get me going in the right direction is all.

If I'm running 2 cheapo monitor (24 or 27 inches), that I will use for my work, then add a 3rd for color correction (figure I will leave off, and if I want to tweak the colors fast, in my nle, I can drag over to that screen, or when I go to do final corrections, do same thing).

Just trying to figure out what I need to do to go from computer to monitor for optimal color correction? And if that solution can be had at a reasonable price?

Steve Kalle · December 25th, 2010, 01:28 AM

Did you read the article on provideocoalition.com about Premiere and pro I/O solutions?

To answer WHY you need this or that: it depends on your type of work. If you are making video solely for the web, then color critical hardware is not so important, but it is with video for broadcast.

If your budget and work allows, I would get an Eizo CG243W. Why? It is a 10bit LCD which can connect to your 10bit Quadro and view Premiere Pro CS5 in 10bit. Actually, I just remembered you are on a Mac and I don't know if Adobe, Apple and Nvidia have enabled the 10bit pipeline like we have on PCs. I have a Quadro, that Eizo and CS5 on Windows 7 and I know when Premiere is 10bit enabled because the screen flashes when opening a project.

Brian Tori · January 3rd, 2011, 01:29 PM

Jeff, read this:

ProVideo Coalition.com: TecnoTur by Allan Tépper

Sareesh Sudhakaran · January 3rd, 2011, 10:18 PM

Maybe this might help:
http://www.dvinfo.net/forum/view-vid...-matrox-2.html

December 24th, 2010, 07:10 AM	#1
Jeff Troiano Major Player Join Date: May 2003 Location: Nashville TN Posts: 480	What is needed between Comp and Monitor, for color correcting? I've been browsing around the monitor section, for the last few weeks, checking out posts here and there. I understand the need for a quality monitor, for use in color correcting, and also the need for proper calibration. What I'm a bit fuzzy on is the correct way to connect the monitor to the computer, so that it gets the right signal for accurate color reproduction? I like to try and search past threads, to try and answer my questions, but I guess what I'm reading isn't registering in my head. So my question is, besides a computer, good monitor, and calibration software/device, what is needed to go between the comp and the monitor? I've seen mention of the Matrix MXO2 mini, I've checked it out on B&H, but I'm still not fully understanding. Could someone be kind enough to give me a little incite? I'm not against spending money to get things correct. I'd much prefer to stay closer to 2k (or less) then 5k plus, but I like to get things done right the first time, and sometimes that means not skimping. I'm using a Mac Pro, with a Quadro 4000 video card. Programs are Apples FC studio, and Adobe CS5 (and someday possibly Cinema 4D). I read the thread about using Premier, and being able to output propor signal for accurate color, but I'd like to set up so that I'm getting true color no matter what program I'm using. Thank you for the help, and information. Jeff

December 24th, 2010, 09:19 AM	#2
Ryan Sarver New Boot Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Indianapolis, Indiana Posts: 22	What kind of monitor What kind of monitor are you trying to connect? If you are using a computer monitor then the MXO is what you want not the mxo2. MXO is a box for pass through of the DVI signal. Mxo2 mini output hdmi and component. If you really want to get good color accuracy, then get a real broadcast monitor and output card like a kona lhe and pair it with a Flander Scientific monitor. Above 2k but below 5k considerably.

January 3rd, 2011, 10:18 PM	#6
Sareesh Sudhakaran Trustee Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Mumbai, India Posts: 1,385	Maybe this might help: http://www.dvinfo.net/forum/view-vid...-matrox-2.html __________________ Get the Free Comprehensive Guide to Rigging ANY Camera - one guide to rig them all - DSLRs to the Arri Alexa.

December 24th, 2010, 09:45 AM	#3
Jeff Troiano Major Player Join Date: May 2003 Location: Nashville TN Posts: 480	I haven't gotten a monitor for color correcting yet. Trying to figure out what is what. I'm looking to add what I need too, so that I can have a reasonable setup, but since I don't know what it is I'm looking to add to make this happen, that's what I'm trying to find out. I'm not asking for specific hardware, simply the reasoning for getting hardware at all. Like, will a Quadro 4000 video card output the right signal, to connect to <insert hardware or monitor here>? Or do I need to find a different graphics card to connect to a calibrated monitor (most likely a lcd)? If I have a special graphics card, and proper monitor, do I need an in between for them? If I do, or don't, can anyone explain why? I'm just trying to gain the knowlege, so I kind of know what I'm suppose to do. I'm not looking for someone to go tell me to by product "X" or "Y", but the reasons why I need those products. If there is a book, or website tutorial, a link would be perfect. I have a stack of books on various aspects of what I'm trying to do, so I don't always need someone to hold my hand the whole way, just get me going in the right direction is all. If I'm running 2 cheapo monitor (24 or 27 inches), that I will use for my work, then add a 3rd for color correction (figure I will leave off, and if I want to tweak the colors fast, in my nle, I can drag over to that screen, or when I go to do final corrections, do same thing). Just trying to figure out what I need to do to go from computer to monitor for optimal color correction? And if that solution can be had at a reasonable price?

December 25th, 2010, 01:28 AM	#4
Steve Kalle Trustee Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 1,554	Did you read the article on provideocoalition.com about Premiere and pro I/O solutions? To answer WHY you need this or that: it depends on your type of work. If you are making video solely for the web, then color critical hardware is not so important, but it is with video for broadcast. If your budget and work allows, I would get an Eizo CG243W. Why? It is a 10bit LCD which can connect to your 10bit Quadro and view Premiere Pro CS5 in 10bit. Actually, I just remembered you are on a Mac and I don't know if Adobe, Apple and Nvidia have enabled the 10bit pipeline like we have on PCs. I have a Quadro, that Eizo and CS5 on Windows 7 and I know when Premiere is 10bit enabled because the screen flashes when opening a project.

January 3rd, 2011, 01:29 PM	#5
Brian Tori Major Player Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Detroit, MI Posts: 408	Jeff, read this: ProVideo Coalition.com: TecnoTur by Allan Tépper