SonY 8" PVM 8041Q field monitor at DVinfo.net

Shawn Kessler · September 8th, 2009, 12:13 PM

Hello guys.
Got a problem if you plug in to component with this monitor. My camera is the JVC GYHD-100 with the component out to it shouldn't you get a color picture. I either get black n white or just green with the different button combinations. my camera is set to component out i've also tried every combination imaginable with no success. What the heck i'm I doing wrong? i've tried different cables with no avail. I've also tried it on a26" lcd worked perfect so I don't think its my camera. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Shawn

Boyd Ostroff · September 8th, 2009, 12:41 PM

Maybe a problem with sending HD component video to a SD monitor? Is there a setting on your camera for component format?

Shawn Kessler · September 8th, 2009, 12:44 PM

Yes there is a setting for that still no luck. Boyd let me ask you this if I wanted to calibrate color
in SD mode would that not work?

Boyd Ostroff · September 8th, 2009, 12:51 PM

Sorry, that gets a little beyond my area of knowledge, but my understanding is that colorspace is different between SD and HD. Maybe someone else can give a better answer...

Boyd Ostroff · September 8th, 2009, 12:52 PM

Also - have you tested the monitor with another source of component video? Most DVD players have component output. That would be one way to determine if the problem is in the monitor/cable.

Shawn Kessler · September 8th, 2009, 01:02 PM

Thanks Boyd!
that seems to be working I think im going to try one of those s-video to component cables at least I can get a little more detail.

Shawn

Shaun Roemich · September 8th, 2009, 03:45 PM

Do you have the camera set to downconvert to SD? The monitor in question won't accept HD signals.

Shawn Kessler · September 8th, 2009, 03:50 PM

HOw is that done on the GYHD -100 if it can?

Shaun Roemich · September 8th, 2009, 04:20 PM

I've got a 200 so I'm not sure if it's the same. Check the manual.

Greg Laves · September 8th, 2009, 05:36 PM

I might be missing the boat here. But are you using component out (YUV) or (RGB) or composite out? If you are using a single RCA out connection, I think that would be just composite out and it is probably SD only. I have had several (5) of the Sony PVM 80xx field monitors and one did exactly like yours. It would produce a green picture or a B/W picture only. No color. It was a bad monitor. Actually, all of the Sony PVM 80xx series monitors that I had are all dead.

Shawn Kessler · September 8th, 2009, 05:41 PM

Greg,
Ive got component out (YUV)on my camera to the component in on the sony.
apparently this monitor only accepts SD. Im going to use a s-video to component
to get some kind of decent picture from it.

Greg Laves · September 8th, 2009, 05:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shawn Kessler

Greg,
Ive got component out (YUV)on my camera to the component in on the sony.
apparently this monitor only accepts SD. Im going to use a s-video to component
to get some kind of decent picture from it.

I don't have a JVC, so I don't know how they are set up. But I think that the component output from my camcorder (RGB) is a different type of output than the Betacam YUV component out. The S-Video out to S-Video in should work.

Boyd Ostroff · September 9th, 2009, 12:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shaun Roemich

Do you have the camera set to downconvert to SD? The monitor in question won't accept HD signals.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shawn Kessler

HOw is that done on the GYHD -100 if it can?

I'm getting lost here, I thought we covered this earlier....

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boyd Ostroff

Maybe a problem with sending HD component video to a SD monitor? Is there a setting on your camera for component format?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shawn Kessler

Yes there is a setting for that still no luck.

Shaun Roemich · September 9th, 2009, 04:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boyd Ostroff

I'm getting lost here, I thought we covered this earlier....

I was trying to confirm that the OP had set the analog component outputs to SD as analog component can be either HD or SD, which not every one always understands.

FTR: (and not for Boyd)
Analog Connections
- composite (one connector) is SD only
- S-Video (4 pin DIN connector) is SD only - ALSO available in 2 connector and generally called Y/C, not S-Video (early Hi-8 cameras sometimes had this)
- Component (3 connector) can be HD or SD

Digital Video Connections
-SDI/HD-SDI (one connector - BNC) can be Sd (SDI) or HD (HD-SDI)
-HDMI
-DVI (although usually computer based RGB video)

Boyd Ostroff · September 9th, 2009, 07:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shaun Roemich

I was trying to confirm that the OP had set the analog component outputs to SD as analog component can be either HD or SD, which not every one always understands.

Right. I think Shawn misunderstood that distinction when he said he checked the setting on the camera.

September 8th, 2009, 12:13 PM	#1
Shawn Kessler Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Ofallon missouri Posts: 123	SonY 8" PVM 8041Q field monitor Hello guys. Got a problem if you plug in to component with this monitor. My camera is the JVC GYHD-100 with the component out to it shouldn't you get a color picture. I either get black n white or just green with the different button combinations. my camera is set to component out i've also tried every combination imaginable with no success. What the heck i'm I doing wrong? i've tried different cables with no avail. I've also tried it on a26" lcd worked perfect so I don't think its my camera. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Shawn

September 8th, 2009, 12:44 PM	#3
Shawn Kessler Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Ofallon missouri Posts: 123	8" monitor Yes there is a setting for that still no luck. Boyd let me ask you this if I wanted to calibrate color in SD mode would that not work?

September 8th, 2009, 01:02 PM	#6
Shawn Kessler Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Ofallon missouri Posts: 123	cables ok Thanks Boyd! that seems to be working I think im going to try one of those s-video to component cables at least I can get a little more detail. Shawn

September 8th, 2009, 03:45 PM	#7
Shaun Roemich Inner Circle Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Vancouver, British Columbia (formerly Winnipeg, Manitoba) Canada Posts: 4,088	Do you have the camera set to downconvert to SD? The monitor in question won't accept HD signals. __________________ Shaun C. Roemich Road Dog Media - Vancouver, BC - Videographer - Webcaster www.roaddogmedia.ca Blog: http://roaddogmedia.wordpress.com/

September 8th, 2009, 03:50 PM	#8
Shawn Kessler Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Ofallon missouri Posts: 123	donconverting HOw is that done on the GYHD -100 if it can?

September 8th, 2009, 12:41 PM	#2
Boyd Ostroff Wrangler Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Mays Landing, NJ Posts: 11,802	Maybe a problem with sending HD component video to a SD monitor? Is there a setting on your camera for component format?

September 8th, 2009, 12:51 PM	#4
Boyd Ostroff Wrangler Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Mays Landing, NJ Posts: 11,802	Sorry, that gets a little beyond my area of knowledge, but my understanding is that colorspace is different between SD and HD. Maybe someone else can give a better answer...

September 8th, 2009, 12:52 PM	#5
Boyd Ostroff Wrangler Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Mays Landing, NJ Posts: 11,802	Also - have you tested the monitor with another source of component video? Most DVD players have component output. That would be one way to determine if the problem is in the monitor/cable.

September 8th, 2009, 04:20 PM	#9
Shaun Roemich Inner Circle Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Vancouver, British Columbia (formerly Winnipeg, Manitoba) Canada Posts: 4,088	I've got a 200 so I'm not sure if it's the same. Check the manual. __________________ Shaun C. Roemich Road Dog Media - Vancouver, BC - Videographer - Webcaster www.roaddogmedia.ca Blog: http://roaddogmedia.wordpress.com/

September 8th, 2009, 05:36 PM	#10
Greg Laves Major Player Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Corpus Christi, TX Posts: 640	I might be missing the boat here. But are you using component out (YUV) or (RGB) or composite out? If you are using a single RCA out connection, I think that would be just composite out and it is probably SD only. I have had several (5) of the Sony PVM 80xx field monitors and one did exactly like yours. It would produce a green picture or a B/W picture only. No color. It was a bad monitor. Actually, all of the Sony PVM 80xx series monitors that I had are all dead.

September 8th, 2009, 05:41 PM	#11
Shawn Kessler Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Ofallon missouri Posts: 123	8" monitor Greg, Ive got component out (YUV)on my camera to the component in on the sony. apparently this monitor only accepts SD. Im going to use a s-video to component to get some kind of decent picture from it.