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Scott Moore · February 24th, 2004, 08:54 AM

Okay, I know the best playback viewing monitor is one of the bajillion- thousand
-dollar Sony NTSC boxes or the like.

But let's take it down a notch---what would be
the BEST AVAILABLE in the CONSUMER arena? -- for near accuracy of color, res, etc.

imagine you could only shop at a place like
Best Buy or Circuit City...what would you get
to put in your edit area or in your field setup?

flat TV? portable DVD screen? standalone
computer flat panel? other?

(and keep in mind- you're also supporting
a wife, five kids, and three grandmothers----
I only have ONE of these, but remember,
we're imagining)

Boyd Ostroff · February 24th, 2004, 09:21 AM

<<<-- Originally posted by Scott Moore : flat TV? portable DVD screen? standalone computer flat panel? -->>>

Flat panel screens will have prices approaching that of an NTSC monitor, so unless you have some other reason to want one I don't think this will save much money. For a low cost approach look for any TV with s-video input. Quite a few of the inexpensive ones are starting to appear with this feature these days. I have a 19" Apex flat screen CRT with s-video that cost under $200 a couple years ago. Quality is OK but not exceptional.

I have had a variety of Sony WEGA TV's. The 27" is very nice, 19" is OK and for awhile I had a 13" that was terrible and it didn't even have s-video in. It also died young. If you're looking for a small TV I'd suggest buying mostly on price because none of them seem to be that great in terms of quality.

I use a Sony 17" 16:9 1280x768 flat panel to edit my widescreen video. It works very well and also doubles as a computer monitor. But this wouldn't really be a "budget" solution, cost is around $700.

You might not want to limit yourself to Cicuit City, take a look at the monitors from B&H. There are some that are pretty inexpensive and are probably better than any of the consumer TV's...

Mike Rehmus · February 24th, 2004, 10:33 AM

You can buy the 'Industrial' Monitors that are sold by JVC for aorund $250-$350. Quite good and a significant step up from a consumer television.

Jeff Donald · February 24th, 2004, 11:37 AM

I agree with Mike, look at the Panasonic or JVC Industrial monitors. I actually prefer the look of the Panasonic to the JVC, but I'm splitting hairs. Sony has production monitors also, but they're in the $500 range.

Scott Moore · February 24th, 2004, 11:56 AM

Could you guys be so kind as to
direct me 'where' to find these?
(on the net or otherwise)

thanks

Jeff Donald · February 24th, 2004, 12:00 PM

Use the link in my signature and go to our sponsor page. Several of our sponsors will carry several monitors in your range.

Barry Rivadue · February 24th, 2004, 12:38 PM

Okay, a question from me tinged with the usual naiveness...one needs an additional video card to use two monitors, right? Are they easy to install? Do you have any recommended brand/version?

Mike Rehmus · February 24th, 2004, 01:35 PM

A second video card will work. Or you can buy a dual-head video card as I have. I have a Matrox 440 in this computer and an Radeon 9600 Pro in my main editing computer. Both support two monitors.

Barry Rivadue · February 24th, 2004, 05:47 PM

Thanks, Mike!

Boyd Ostroff · February 24th, 2004, 05:56 PM

The other way to drive the monitor is sending firewire (1394) to your camcorder or some other device that will transcode it to video. In many cases this will be better than a card in the computer (although on the Mac I sometimes hook up a monitor my Radeon 7000, or to the s-video port on my PowerBook). But I get the best results using a DVD recorder that takes 1394 in and transcodes to component video.

Barry Rivadue · February 24th, 2004, 10:36 PM

I have a AG-DV2000 Panasonic editing deck; how would you integrate this unit into a multi-monitor setup?

Vic Owen · February 24th, 2004, 10:52 PM

I also use a DV2000. I run two LCD monitors from the G4 GeForce card, and have a Panasonic CT-1386 monitor hooked up to the video output of the DV2000 (through a 1X12 Dist Amp.). The LCDs are used for editing and the Panasonic is used to view the final output, color balancing, etc.

Glenn Chan · February 25th, 2004, 12:05 AM

usually the best setup is computer --> firewire --> deck (or camcorder) --> S-video/component/composite/analog --> NTSC monitor (or TV). This way you get to see what will be recorded onto your master.

On a not really related matter, you can hook up two computer monitors to your editing system so you have more workspace.
Video cards with 2 outputs will do it. You can go on newegg.com (one of the best places to get computer stuff) and look at the pictures. White usually means DVI (for LCD) and blue for VGA. If the card comes with a DVI-VGA adapter, that implies the card can output a VGA signal on the DVI output (with DVI+VGA outputs, the card can do 2XVGA). Very basic dual monitor video cards at newegg.com cost around $35-45 (various radeon 7000s and GeForce 4s).

February 24th, 2004, 08:54 AM	#1
Scott Moore Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 48	Tv Land Okay, I know the best playback viewing monitor is one of the bajillion- thousand -dollar Sony NTSC boxes or the like. But let's take it down a notch---what would be the BEST AVAILABLE in the CONSUMER arena? -- for near accuracy of color, res, etc. imagine you could only shop at a place like Best Buy or Circuit City...what would you get to put in your edit area or in your field setup? flat TV? portable DVD screen? standalone computer flat panel? other? (and keep in mind- you're also supporting a wife, five kids, and three grandmothers---- I only have ONE of these, but remember, we're imagining)

February 24th, 2004, 09:21 AM	#2
Boyd Ostroff Wrangler Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Mays Landing, NJ Posts: 11,802	Re: Tv Land <<<-- Originally posted by Scott Moore : flat TV? portable DVD screen? standalone computer flat panel? -->>> Flat panel screens will have prices approaching that of an NTSC monitor, so unless you have some other reason to want one I don't think this will save much money. For a low cost approach look for any TV with s-video input. Quite a few of the inexpensive ones are starting to appear with this feature these days. I have a 19" Apex flat screen CRT with s-video that cost under $200 a couple years ago. Quality is OK but not exceptional. I have had a variety of Sony WEGA TV's. The 27" is very nice, 19" is OK and for awhile I had a 13" that was terrible and it didn't even have s-video in. It also died young. If you're looking for a small TV I'd suggest buying mostly on price because none of them seem to be that great in terms of quality. I use a Sony 17" 16:9 1280x768 flat panel to edit my widescreen video. It works very well and also doubles as a computer monitor. But this wouldn't really be a "budget" solution, cost is around $700. You might not want to limit yourself to Cicuit City, take a look at the monitors from B&H. There are some that are pretty inexpensive and are probably better than any of the consumer TV's...

February 24th, 2004, 10:33 AM	#3
Mike Rehmus Wrangler Join Date: May 2002 Location: Vallejo, California Posts: 4,049	You can buy the 'Industrial' Monitors that are sold by JVC for aorund $250-$350. Quite good and a significant step up from a consumer television. __________________ Mike Rehmus Hey, I can see the carrot at the end of the tunnel!

February 24th, 2004, 11:37 AM	#4
Jeff Donald Warden Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Clearwater, FL Posts: 8,287	I agree with Mike, look at the Panasonic or JVC Industrial monitors. I actually prefer the look of the Panasonic to the JVC, but I'm splitting hairs. Sony has production monitors also, but they're in the $500 range. __________________ Jeff Donald Carpe Diem Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Where to Buy? From the best in the business: DVinfo.net sponsors

February 24th, 2004, 11:56 AM	#5
Scott Moore Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 48	So JVC or Panasonic Industrial monitors... Could you guys be so kind as to direct me 'where' to find these? (on the net or otherwise) thanks

February 24th, 2004, 12:00 PM	#6
Jeff Donald Warden Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Clearwater, FL Posts: 8,287	Use the link in my signature and go to our sponsor page. Several of our sponsors will carry several monitors in your range. __________________ Jeff Donald Carpe Diem Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Where to Buy? From the best in the business: DVinfo.net sponsors

February 24th, 2004, 12:38 PM	#7
Barry Rivadue Major Player Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 508	Okay, a question from me tinged with the usual naiveness...one needs an additional video card to use two monitors, right? Are they easy to install? Do you have any recommended brand/version?

February 24th, 2004, 01:35 PM	#8
Mike Rehmus Wrangler Join Date: May 2002 Location: Vallejo, California Posts: 4,049	A second video card will work. Or you can buy a dual-head video card as I have. I have a Matrox 440 in this computer and an Radeon 9600 Pro in my main editing computer. Both support two monitors. __________________ Mike Rehmus Hey, I can see the carrot at the end of the tunnel!

February 24th, 2004, 05:47 PM	#9
Barry Rivadue Major Player Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 508	Thanks, Mike!

February 24th, 2004, 05:56 PM	#10
Boyd Ostroff Wrangler Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Mays Landing, NJ Posts: 11,802	The other way to drive the monitor is sending firewire (1394) to your camcorder or some other device that will transcode it to video. In many cases this will be better than a card in the computer (although on the Mac I sometimes hook up a monitor my Radeon 7000, or to the s-video port on my PowerBook). But I get the best results using a DVD recorder that takes 1394 in and transcodes to component video.

February 24th, 2004, 10:36 PM	#11
Barry Rivadue Major Player Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 508	I have a AG-DV2000 Panasonic editing deck; how would you integrate this unit into a multi-monitor setup?

February 24th, 2004, 10:52 PM	#12
Vic Owen Major Player Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 540	I also use a DV2000. I run two LCD monitors from the G4 GeForce card, and have a Panasonic CT-1386 monitor hooked up to the video output of the DV2000 (through a 1X12 Dist Amp.). The LCDs are used for editing and the Panasonic is used to view the final output, color balancing, etc. __________________ -- Vic Owen --

February 25th, 2004, 12:05 AM	#13
Glenn Chan Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 4,750	usually the best setup is computer --> firewire --> deck (or camcorder) --> S-video/component/composite/analog --> NTSC monitor (or TV). This way you get to see what will be recorded onto your master. On a not really related matter, you can hook up two computer monitors to your editing system so you have more workspace. Video cards with 2 outputs will do it. You can go on newegg.com (one of the best places to get computer stuff) and look at the pictures. White usually means DVI (for LCD) and blue for VGA. If the card comes with a DVI-VGA adapter, that implies the card can output a VGA signal on the DVI output (with DVI+VGA outputs, the card can do 2XVGA). Very basic dual monitor video cards at newegg.com cost around $35-45 (various radeon 7000s and GeForce 4s).