Portable DVD Player as Monitor?

LeEarl Rugland · May 17th, 2005, 02:25 PM

I use the same setup that you are talking about. I have a 10.2" portable DVD player and use it all the time as a monitor with my GL2. What I use is the cables supplied with the GL2 and the DVD player and conect them with an adapter from Radio Shack http://www.radioshack.com/product.as...t%5Fid=274-898

I hope this works.

LeEarl

Jason Leonard · May 18th, 2005, 09:00 PM

wow. that radio shack coupler was EXACTLY what i needed.
it works like a charm.
thanks for your help, youve really saved the day.

Matt Sawyers · May 27th, 2005, 07:03 PM

What type of DVD Player are ya'll using?
~Matt

Patrick King · May 27th, 2005, 07:52 PM

Jason,
I use a portable DVD player for 16:9 framing with my XL2. I used the same cable that came with the portable DVD player which connects the DVD to a TV. Mine has a 'monitor mode' which when activated accepts (pulls) video over that cable from a device instead of transmitting (pushing) video to a TV.

The cable that came with mine has a yellow RCA male plug on one end to attach to the TV (or camcorder), and a stereo mini-plug to attach to the portable DVD player.

The trick on mine is to figure out (and remember) the series of keystrokes to force the DVD player into the 'monitor mode'. Works great though and provides a good mechanism for showing off footage at locations other than my place.

Jason D Chapman · October 19th, 2005, 05:18 PM

just bought a ADVUEU PD710 Portable DVD Player w/ 7" 16:9 LCD Monitor

need a sun hood for it.

i found a HOODMAN sun hood for the panasonic 7" lcd monitor
but i'm not sure if it will work.

heres a thought, is it possible to make one?

thanks

Layi Babalola · January 30th, 2006, 03:23 PM

Hey guys.

I'm currently looking for field monitoring options that will allow me to obtain better focus when using 35mm adapters and jib/crane shots.

I've heard of people using portable dvd players as a solution. The ideal player would have a high resolution in order to assist in achieving focus when using 35mm lenses. In addition, being able to mount the player to the camera upside down (or flip the image vertically and horizontally) would be advantageous.

I've narrowed my choices down to two options.

The first is the best protable DVD player I could find.
The Philips PET1000:
http://reviews.cnet.com/Philips_PET1...2.html?tag=nav

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...2107-9667041?%

It is renowned for its superior image quality. However, I'm not sure how I'd mount it or deal with the upside down and flipped image.

Next are Lilliput car monitors I've found on ebay.
Lilliput 8 inch car monitor:

http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-Lilliput-8-T...yZ3698QQssPage NameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

More here:
http://www.mp3car.com/store/advanced...words=lilliput

The screen is a touchscreen, but the seller claims high resolution (up to 1024 x 768), 4:3 display (i wonder if I could use letterbox also).
Again, I'm not sure what my screen flip and reversal options are.

Any advice would be appreciated. Has anyone used devices such as these for monitoring? Any issues with the image quality or flipping features?

Thanks a lot.

Piet Meersschaut · January 31st, 2006, 02:44 PM

Hi Layi

Check out the Lenco DVP1022.

www.lenco-audiovideo.com/index2.php?lang=en

I just bought one.It has a 480 lines resolution, an aspect ratio switch 4:3letterbox or 16:9 widescreen, flip and a built in battery pack!
I hooked it up to my DVX100 and the image is bright and sharp enough for manual focussing.

Watch out for resolution though. Most of the small LCD A/V screens only have a vertical res of 234 lines, and that's insufficient when you want to us manual focus. At least, that's my experience.

Hope this helps. i'm not sure if you can get Lenco gear in the US though.

Layi Babalola · January 31st, 2006, 04:20 PM

Thanks Piet! I'll check it out.

Layi Babalola · January 31st, 2006, 04:21 PM

One more thing, does it flip vertically AND horizontally? Thanks

Piet Meersschaut · January 31st, 2006, 04:57 PM

Only vertically, I'm afraid.

I honestly couldn't find any external LCD screen that supports mirror mode.

Usually the camera can do it, but only for the on-board LCD.
It does not output to the video out, unfortunately.

Piet

Dennis Wood · January 31st, 2006, 06:02 PM

I could be wrong here, but inverted mode (rotated 180 degrees) is exactly what you need no? My cheapo DVD player does this just fine.

Ben Winter · January 31st, 2006, 06:16 PM

Dennis, we're also looking for a DVD player with high resolution so we can properly focus the image, something the el cheapo models lack.

Andrew Todd · January 31st, 2006, 06:19 PM

dennis... the image from the adapters is flipped upside down and is inverted.. so if you want a true image you would have to have a monitor which will perform an x and y flip

Layi Babalola · January 31st, 2006, 09:49 PM

Ok fellas. I like the little think tank we have going on here. I believe I've found a solution. It's the Lilliput 809GL-80NP.

Info here:
http://www.lilliputuk.com/productinfo.php?product=22

Purchase here:
http://www.mp3car.com/store/product_...products_id=42

and here:
http://www.case-mod.com/store/lillip...06.html?src=fr

and here:
http://www.translinks.com/touch_screen.htm

I like this device since it's meant for cars and not film makers. Hence, it's cheap and still has some of the features we need. It has a mirror mode AND vertical flip (Some people use this as a rear view mirror) allowing us to flip the image when using 35mm adapters.

It has high resolution so we should be able to obtain sharp focus.
(1024 x 768 dots - Higher than DV resolution and the best I've seen in an LCD)

Let me know what you think.

Dennis Wood · January 31st, 2006, 10:18 PM

To undo a 180 degree rotation, you flip, then you mirror. It's the same thing.

Thats why running your camera upside down (which I do) results in the correct orientation of video when captured. You'll also find in your NLE that rotating 180 has the same effect as flip and mirror.

Many portable DVD players have a "reverse" button, as mine does, which rotate the image 180 degrees to allow operation of the unit upside down. Given my GS400's propensity to allways right the LCD image, this is the only way I can monitor an upright image.

Try it!

This is 800x480, $189, 16:9/4:3 switchable, but no S-video input: http://www.mp3playerstore.com/stuff_...l/IN-700VG.htm

May 27th, 2005, 07:03 PM	#33
Matt Sawyers Regular Crew Join Date: May 2005 Location: Victoria , Texas Posts: 123	DVD Player What type of DVD Player are ya'll using? ~Matt

May 27th, 2005, 07:52 PM	#34
Patrick King Major Player Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Enterprise, AL Posts: 857	Jason, I use a portable DVD player for 16:9 framing with my XL2. I used the same cable that came with the portable DVD player which connects the DVD to a TV. Mine has a 'monitor mode' which when activated accepts (pulls) video over that cable from a device instead of transmitting (pushing) video to a TV. The cable that came with mine has a yellow RCA male plug on one end to attach to the TV (or camcorder), and a stereo mini-plug to attach to the portable DVD player. The trick on mine is to figure out (and remember) the series of keystrokes to force the DVD player into the 'monitor mode'. Works great though and provides a good mechanism for showing off footage at locations other than my place. __________________ Fear No Weevil!

October 19th, 2005, 05:18 PM	#35
Jason D Chapman New Boot Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: CHICAGO Posts: 8	sun hood for ADVUEU PD710 Portable DVD Player w/ 7" 16:9 LCD Monitor ? just bought a ADVUEU PD710 Portable DVD Player w/ 7" 16:9 LCD Monitor need a sun hood for it. i found a HOODMAN sun hood for the panasonic 7" lcd monitor but i'm not sure if it will work. heres a thought, is it possible to make one? thanks

January 30th, 2006, 03:23 PM	#36
Layi Babalola New Boot Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: houston, tx Posts: 22	Portable DVD player and other field monitor options Hey guys. I'm currently looking for field monitoring options that will allow me to obtain better focus when using 35mm adapters and jib/crane shots. I've heard of people using portable dvd players as a solution. The ideal player would have a high resolution in order to assist in achieving focus when using 35mm lenses. In addition, being able to mount the player to the camera upside down (or flip the image vertically and horizontally) would be advantageous. I've narrowed my choices down to two options. The first is the best protable DVD player I could find. The Philips PET1000: http://reviews.cnet.com/Philips_PET1...2.html?tag=nav http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...2107-9667041?% It is renowned for its superior image quality. However, I'm not sure how I'd mount it or deal with the upside down and flipped image. Next are Lilliput car monitors I've found on ebay. Lilliput 8 inch car monitor: http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-Lilliput-8-T...yZ3698QQssPage NameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem More here: http://www.mp3car.com/store/advanced...words=lilliput The screen is a touchscreen, but the seller claims high resolution (up to 1024 x 768), 4:3 display (i wonder if I could use letterbox also). Again, I'm not sure what my screen flip and reversal options are. Any advice would be appreciated. Has anyone used devices such as these for monitoring? Any issues with the image quality or flipping features? Thanks a lot.

January 31st, 2006, 02:44 PM	#37
Piet Meersschaut Tourist Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Melle - BELGIUM Posts: 4	portable dvd screen resolution Hi Layi Check out the Lenco DVP1022. www.lenco-audiovideo.com/index2.php?lang=en I just bought one.It has a 480 lines resolution, an aspect ratio switch 4:3letterbox or 16:9 widescreen, flip and a built in battery pack! I hooked it up to my DVX100 and the image is bright and sharp enough for manual focussing. Watch out for resolution though. Most of the small LCD A/V screens only have a vertical res of 234 lines, and that's insufficient when you want to us manual focus. At least, that's my experience. Hope this helps. i'm not sure if you can get Lenco gear in the US though.

May 17th, 2005, 02:25 PM	#31
LeEarl Rugland New Boot Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Roseau, MN Posts: 23	I use the same setup that you are talking about. I have a 10.2" portable DVD player and use it all the time as a monitor with my GL2. What I use is the cables supplied with the GL2 and the DVD player and conect them with an adapter from Radio Shack http://www.radioshack.com/product.as...t%5Fid=274-898 I hope this works. LeEarl

May 18th, 2005, 09:00 PM	#32
Jason Leonard Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: NY Posts: 83	wow. that radio shack coupler was EXACTLY what i needed. it works like a charm. thanks for your help, youve really saved the day.

January 31st, 2006, 04:20 PM	#38
Layi Babalola New Boot Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: houston, tx Posts: 22	Thanks Piet! I'll check it out.

January 31st, 2006, 04:21 PM	#39
Layi Babalola New Boot Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: houston, tx Posts: 22	One more thing, does it flip vertically AND horizontally? Thanks

January 31st, 2006, 04:57 PM	#40
Piet Meersschaut Tourist Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Melle - BELGIUM Posts: 4	Only vertically, I'm afraid. I honestly couldn't find any external LCD screen that supports mirror mode. Usually the camera can do it, but only for the on-board LCD. It does not output to the video out, unfortunately. Piet

January 31st, 2006, 06:02 PM	#41
Dennis Wood Major Player Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 916	I could be wrong here, but inverted mode (rotated 180 degrees) is exactly what you need no? My cheapo DVD player does this just fine.

January 31st, 2006, 06:16 PM	#42
Ben Winter Trustee Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 1,675 Images: 1	Dennis, we're also looking for a DVD player with high resolution so we can properly focus the image, something the el cheapo models lack. __________________ BenWinter.com

January 31st, 2006, 06:19 PM	#43
Andrew Todd Major Player Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Saint John, CANADA Posts: 633	dennis... the image from the adapters is flipped upside down and is inverted.. so if you want a true image you would have to have a monitor which will perform an x and y flip __________________ video : xl2 / letus35xl / bogen 503 photo- canon 1dmkII - bronica etrsi

January 31st, 2006, 09:49 PM	#44
Layi Babalola New Boot Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: houston, tx Posts: 22	Ok fellas. I like the little think tank we have going on here. I believe I've found a solution. It's the Lilliput 809GL-80NP. Info here: http://www.lilliputuk.com/productinfo.php?product=22 Purchase here: http://www.mp3car.com/store/product_...products_id=42 and here: http://www.case-mod.com/store/lillip...06.html?src=fr and here: http://www.translinks.com/touch_screen.htm I like this device since it's meant for cars and not film makers. Hence, it's cheap and still has some of the features we need. It has a mirror mode AND vertical flip (Some people use this as a rear view mirror) allowing us to flip the image when using 35mm adapters. It has high resolution so we should be able to obtain sharp focus. (1024 x 768 dots - Higher than DV resolution and the best I've seen in an LCD) Let me know what you think.

January 31st, 2006, 10:18 PM	#45
Dennis Wood Major Player Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 916	To undo a 180 degree rotation, you flip, then you mirror. It's the same thing. Thats why running your camera upside down (which I do) results in the correct orientation of video when captured. You'll also find in your NLE that rotating 180 has the same effect as flip and mirror. Many portable DVD players have a "reverse" button, as mine does, which rotate the image 180 degrees to allow operation of the unit upside down. Given my GS400's propensity to allways right the LCD image, this is the only way I can monitor an upright image. Try it! This is 800x480, $189, 16:9/4:3 switchable, but no S-video input: http://www.mp3playerstore.com/stuff_...l/IN-700VG.htm Last edited by Dennis Wood; February 1st, 2006 at 07:49 AM.