HDTV as secondary Vegas display: which card to drive it? at DVinfo.net

Piotr Wozniacki · March 30th, 2008, 11:18 AM

OK, so I have invested in a Full HDTV plasma, and hung it above my desktop. I'd like to use it as the full screen preview monitor in Vegas. Even though this has been discussed in many threads already, I am still not clear whether it's possible to achieve full fps (or at least much better than in the previe window) while playing the time line in Best/Full preview config. If so, what hardware do I need to invest into? I mean, I'm NOT so much interested in a capturing device as I'm using file approach in acquisition (EX1), but in helping Vegas resample the timeline. Is it viable?

For instance, is it a good idea to invest in the Blackmagic Intensity card? As I understand it, in terms of fps, even these cards cannot play faster from Vegas timeline than the preview window. Just to make sure :)

Also, can it play 1080/25p? In the specs, I can oly see 1080i...

Well, I guess i I still had the V1E with HDMI out, I'd buy the Intensity without hesitation. But with the file based EX1, is it still worth it? Any comments welcome

Michael Liebergot · March 31st, 2008, 11:22 AM

For preview purposes the Intensity/Intensity Pro card is definitely worth it, and easily the best bang for the buck out there.

You are correct about the fact that you won't get full frame rate preview from Vegas, if you have a bunch of effects on your clip. Preview will still depend on the processor speed of your system, as well as hard drive speed.

I am using Vegas 7/8 (until I am fully up to speed on FCP) on a MAC Pro 2.66 Quad running Bootcamp and Windows XP. And I mainly use the Intensity for preview purposes for color correction only. I can get fairly good frame rates from previewing at Best Full, but still use my preview window for sync accurate video. but if you want an inexpensive way to preview full HD for color grading, then the Intensity will be hard to beat.

Piotr Wozniacki · March 31st, 2008, 11:34 AM

Thanks, Michael!

One more question: will I be able to use the Intensity with software DVD/BD/MPG players, like Nero Showtime, WMP or Power DVD - or will I have to connect my regular ATI card to the HDTV, as well?

Michael Liebergot · March 31st, 2008, 12:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Piotr Wozniacki

Thanks, Michael!

One more question: will I be able to use the Intensity with software DVD/BD/MPG players, like Nero Showtime, WMP or Power DVD - or will I have to connect my regular ATI card to the HDTV, as well?

I'm not sure on that one. That is really dependent upon the programs ability for external preview.
I do know that I m able to preview from Vegas, DVD Architect, Photoshop, FCP. I don't have a need to preview via the computers DVD software.

That would be a question that maybe you should ask Black Magic about.

Daniel Alexander · March 31st, 2008, 09:39 PM

Hi Piotr, i emailed black magic design regarding a similiar question, i wanted to preview my 1080p footage on a hdtv via their intensity card as i was trying to find a cheaper alternative to the mxo. Originally i wrote:

Message:
> Hello, im trying to find a solution that will allow me to monitor my sony ex1
> 1080p files from final cut pro 6 in real time to my 40" 1080p hdtv. I have a
> new quad core power mac with 4gb ram and a nice graphics card already in place
> but i want to monitor my video files so i can see it in broadcast resolution
> not the pc resolution id get if i just use the graphics card dvi to hdmi
> conversion.

and heres what they wrote back:

A few things to mention here in regards to your email. First off, none of
our cards will work with the 1080p spec. Our HD line of DeckLink cards and
Multibridges will work with 1080 23.98PsF but not 1080p. Our HD cards will
work fine with 1080i 59.94 and 720p 59.94 however. I will go ahead and
re-log the request for 1080p support

March 30th, 2008, 11:18 AM	#1
Piotr Wozniacki Inner Circle Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Poland Posts: 4,086	HDTV as secondary Vegas display: which card to drive it? OK, so I have invested in a Full HDTV plasma, and hung it above my desktop. I'd like to use it as the full screen preview monitor in Vegas. Even though this has been discussed in many threads already, I am still not clear whether it's possible to achieve full fps (or at least much better than in the previe window) while playing the time line in Best/Full preview config. If so, what hardware do I need to invest into? I mean, I'm NOT so much interested in a capturing device as I'm using file approach in acquisition (EX1), but in helping Vegas resample the timeline. Is it viable? For instance, is it a good idea to invest in the Blackmagic Intensity card? As I understand it, in terms of fps, even these cards cannot play faster from Vegas timeline than the preview window. Just to make sure :) Also, can it play 1080/25p? In the specs, I can oly see 1080i... Well, I guess i I still had the V1E with HDMI out, I'd buy the Intensity without hesitation. But with the file based EX1, is it still worth it? Any comments welcome __________________ Sony PXW-FS7 \| DaVinci Resolve Studio; Magix Vegas Pro; i7-5960X CPU; 64 GB RAM; 2x GTX 1080 8GB GPU; Decklink 4K Extreme 12G; 4x 3TB WD Black in RAID 0; 1TB M.2 NVMe cache drive

March 31st, 2008, 11:22 AM	#2
Michael Liebergot Trustee Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Maryland Posts: 1,505	For preview purposes the Intensity/Intensity Pro card is definitely worth it, and easily the best bang for the buck out there. You are correct about the fact that you won't get full frame rate preview from Vegas, if you have a bunch of effects on your clip. Preview will still depend on the processor speed of your system, as well as hard drive speed. I am using Vegas 7/8 (until I am fully up to speed on FCP) on a MAC Pro 2.66 Quad running Bootcamp and Windows XP. And I mainly use the Intensity for preview purposes for color correction only. I can get fairly good frame rates from previewing at Best Full, but still use my preview window for sync accurate video. but if you want an inexpensive way to preview full HD for color grading, then the Intensity will be hard to beat. __________________ Michael www.lvpvideo.com

March 31st, 2008, 11:34 AM	#3
Piotr Wozniacki Inner Circle Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Poland Posts: 4,086	Thanks, Michael! One more question: will I be able to use the Intensity with software DVD/BD/MPG players, like Nero Showtime, WMP or Power DVD - or will I have to connect my regular ATI card to the HDTV, as well? __________________ Sony PXW-FS7 \| DaVinci Resolve Studio; Magix Vegas Pro; i7-5960X CPU; 64 GB RAM; 2x GTX 1080 8GB GPU; Decklink 4K Extreme 12G; 4x 3TB WD Black in RAID 0; 1TB M.2 NVMe cache drive

March 31st, 2008, 09:39 PM	#5
Daniel Alexander Major Player Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: West Midlands, UK Posts: 320	Hi Piotr, i emailed black magic design regarding a similiar question, i wanted to preview my 1080p footage on a hdtv via their intensity card as i was trying to find a cheaper alternative to the mxo. Originally i wrote: Message: > Hello, im trying to find a solution that will allow me to monitor my sony ex1 > 1080p files from final cut pro 6 in real time to my 40" 1080p hdtv. I have a > new quad core power mac with 4gb ram and a nice graphics card already in place > but i want to monitor my video files so i can see it in broadcast resolution > not the pc resolution id get if i just use the graphics card dvi to hdmi > conversion. and heres what they wrote back: A few things to mention here in regards to your email. First off, none of our cards will work with the 1080p spec. Our HD line of DeckLink cards and Multibridges will work with 1080 23.98PsF but not 1080p. Our HD cards will work fine with 1080i 59.94 and 720p 59.94 however. I will go ahead and re-log the request for 1080p support