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Dale Guthormsen · July 24th, 2007, 09:51 AM

Good evening,

This short film is unlike anything I have ever done before. I guess it is a form of documentary. I enjoyed making it and having made the shot lists and did alll my prep work before hand there was only one shot I could not get in the time frame, some trusty little muskrats.

I learned that the rats are nocturnal in the summer and they do not use rat houses but dig holes in the mud banks to stay cool. they do not build their houses till September or so (therre are non to be found at present)!! It is always great to learn new things.

I am interested in you comments!!

I am even more interested to see the rest!!

What a great turnout!!

Marco Wagner · July 24th, 2007, 08:41 PM

I really enjoyed your vision and the lesson on the vitality of water. Oh yeah, I LOVE BEER too :-)

Kevin Railsback · July 24th, 2007, 09:02 PM

Yeah, now THAT'S what I'm talkin about!

Blue Ribbon for best ending hands down!!! :)

Your narration at 2:38 plays only on the right channel on my system.

Had some great footage. The hawk getting buzzed was awesome. Nice peregrine shot too. Was it a falconers bird? A good story on how vital water is to the creatures on our planet.

I'm off to have a beer now! :)

Brian McKay · July 25th, 2007, 08:17 AM

some excellent shots running through this one for sure...the new legs are working for you bro. the ending was much to short should have been you doing the voice over after 12 of those brews lol.

good one dale.

brian

Catherine Russell · July 25th, 2007, 09:11 AM

Hi Dale:

Wow, 10 out of 10 for really covering the FULL cycle of things. Great wildlife footage. Good narration... and of course, excellent ending. Why do I feel thirsty all of a sudden. Shoot, and it's only 9 in the morning here.... hmmmm it's noon somewhere in the world right? .....

Great film,

Cat

Jeff Hendricks · July 25th, 2007, 10:18 AM

mmmmm beeerrr...

Educational, interesting to watch and really good footage. I love the brave little hummingbird attacking the aloof hawk...comical.

And I agree, the best ending one could ask for. A homemade cold one.

Jeff

Dale Guthormsen · July 25th, 2007, 12:27 PM

good afternoon,

Yes, I made the shot of the peregrine with a falconers peregrine. the resident prairie falcons would not cooperate and set over a marsh; the peregrines are up at Brians and wont be down until September.

Audio:
At 2;38 I believe that is where the guitar picking comes in. I was having trouble with my audition recording. So, I set the gl2 up and I played the piece and recorded it through a mono shotgun mic. Had I realized that I only had one track I could have copied the track and placed it on the other speaker in audition. I just did not notice. The piece was a recomposition of Under the double eagle as played by randy travis and I threw in a Leo kotke sound on top of it. It is miles from professional but I had fun playing my own music for this production. That is why I called it ski music, prretty rough and bumpy.

The idea is to have fun participating in the challenge. While I am not a big beer drinker I thought it would make for a fun/entertaining end. Take what appears serious and make it fun and laughable. I am pleased that the end was appreciated as I wasn't sure how people would take that one!

David Gemmell · July 26th, 2007, 03:38 AM

Hi Dale,

Gee, your entry covered everything - what an amazing effort! I can imaging a lot of work went into this movie.

I just loved the birdlife - particularly the peregrine in the bottom corner of the screen as the story flowed on. Also the falcon being mobbed - you must have been very close to the action here, as the shot came up beautifully.

I liked your combination of human recreation and fauna on the water.

You certainly get a lot of enjoyment from the water in so many ways - which you covered beautifully in your entry.

Technically, I thought you did very well, although I would always discard the use of bird shots with any shakes and also any soft shots (cormorant at 1.55).

One of the better entries I think.

Geir Inge · July 26th, 2007, 04:48 AM

Hi Dale.
Thanks for sharing this great piece. The scenes in this film are beautiful and though I’m not much of a drinker I love a glas of bear now and then :) You’re a great storyteller, but your VO came out a bit noicy, but maybe thats a compression matter?
Now I have to watch the other videos.

Geir Inge

Gordon Hoffman · July 26th, 2007, 08:53 AM

Dale
Yup this is a good one. With the heat we've been getting you ending is perfect. Well done.

Gordon Hoffman

John Dennis Robertson · July 26th, 2007, 01:13 PM

Although I am in no position to comment on the technical merits of your video,I can say that I enjoyed watching it and learning from it.Thank you

Gabriel Yeager · July 26th, 2007, 01:35 PM

Wow, Dale! You must have spent a long time on this one!
Some excellent footage in here!

I am not sure if it was just a bad download that I had, or if it was that way, but it went from 2:58 to 4:00 of just black...

Pretty impressive!
~Gabriel

Dale Guthormsen · July 28th, 2007, 11:51 AM

Gabriel,

I went on hoidays June 30th so I had all the time in the world to put this one together. I spent most mornings out with the camera hunting for shots. the clip is only about 2:58 so I have no idea about the black to the 4:00 mark. I ran it and did not have that, go figure the darn computers!!

I probably should not have used the commorant by the water, but for the story I wanted one by the water where it preydates on other organisms. When I shot that footage it was about 95 degrees out, hence the heat waves.

I leanred a lot from this challenge!!

First, I should spend as much time in post as in the field.

2nd, Practice the naration a lot more.

3rd, be more darn critical yet.

4th making a shot list first seemed to help a lot putting it together!!!

Trond Saetre · July 28th, 2007, 03:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dale Guthormsen

2nd, Practice the naration a lot more.

Dale, I think your naration was good.
You made a great and entertaining film.
Well done!

Per Johan Naesje · July 31st, 2007, 05:11 AM

Hi Dale, this was a fantastic entry! I learned a lot from your story. Second what have been commented by the others. I think the metallic sound is a matter of compression. Would love a more close-up of that hawk!

July 24th, 2007, 09:51 AM	#1
Dale Guthormsen Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Saskatchewan Posts: 3,048	The Source Good evening, This short film is unlike anything I have ever done before. I guess it is a form of documentary. I enjoyed making it and having made the shot lists and did alll my prep work before hand there was only one shot I could not get in the time frame, some trusty little muskrats. I learned that the rats are nocturnal in the summer and they do not use rat houses but dig holes in the mud banks to stay cool. they do not build their houses till September or so (therre are non to be found at present)!! It is always great to learn new things. I am interested in you comments!! I am even more interested to see the rest!! What a great turnout!! __________________ DATS ALL FOLKS Dale W. Guthormsen

July 24th, 2007, 08:41 PM	#2
Marco Wagner Trustee Join Date: May 2005 Location: Saint Cloud, Florida Posts: 1,043	I really enjoyed your vision and the lesson on the vitality of water. Oh yeah, I LOVE BEER too :-) __________________ www.facebook.com/projectspecto

July 24th, 2007, 09:02 PM	#3
Kevin Railsback Trustee Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Cedar Rapids, Iowa Posts: 1,544	Yeah, now THAT'S what I'm talkin about! Blue Ribbon for best ending hands down!!! :) Your narration at 2:38 plays only on the right channel on my system. Had some great footage. The hawk getting buzzed was awesome. Nice peregrine shot too. Was it a falconers bird? A good story on how vital water is to the creatures on our planet. I'm off to have a beer now! :) __________________ --==Kevin==-- http:naturephotostudios.com.com

July 25th, 2007, 10:18 AM	#6
Jeff Hendricks Major Player Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: The Carson Valley, Nevada Posts: 248	mmmmm beeerrr... Educational, interesting to watch and really good footage. I love the brave little hummingbird attacking the aloof hawk...comical. And I agree, the best ending one could ask for. A homemade cold one. Jeff __________________ www.tahoestarr.com

July 25th, 2007, 12:27 PM	#7
Dale Guthormsen Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Saskatchewan Posts: 3,048	good afternoon, Yes, I made the shot of the peregrine with a falconers peregrine. the resident prairie falcons would not cooperate and set over a marsh; the peregrines are up at Brians and wont be down until September. Audio: At 2;38 I believe that is where the guitar picking comes in. I was having trouble with my audition recording. So, I set the gl2 up and I played the piece and recorded it through a mono shotgun mic. Had I realized that I only had one track I could have copied the track and placed it on the other speaker in audition. I just did not notice. The piece was a recomposition of Under the double eagle as played by randy travis and I threw in a Leo kotke sound on top of it. It is miles from professional but I had fun playing my own music for this production. That is why I called it ski music, prretty rough and bumpy. The idea is to have fun participating in the challenge. While I am not a big beer drinker I thought it would make for a fun/entertaining end. Take what appears serious and make it fun and laughable. I am pleased that the end was appreciated as I wasn't sure how people would take that one! __________________ DATS ALL FOLKS Dale W. Guthormsen

July 25th, 2007, 08:17 AM	#4
Brian McKay Major Player Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Rankin Inlet, Nunavut Canada Posts: 289	some excellent shots running through this one for sure...the new legs are working for you bro. the ending was much to short should have been you doing the voice over after 12 of those brews lol. good one dale. brian

July 25th, 2007, 09:11 AM	#5
Catherine Russell Trustee Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Lyons, Colorado Posts: 1,224	Hi Dale: Wow, 10 out of 10 for really covering the FULL cycle of things. Great wildlife footage. Good narration... and of course, excellent ending. Why do I feel thirsty all of a sudden. Shoot, and it's only 9 in the morning here.... hmmmm it's noon somewhere in the world right? ..... Great film, Cat

July 26th, 2007, 03:38 AM	#8
David Gemmell Major Player Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Bendigo, Australia Posts: 234	Hi Dale, Gee, your entry covered everything - what an amazing effort! I can imaging a lot of work went into this movie. I just loved the birdlife - particularly the peregrine in the bottom corner of the screen as the story flowed on. Also the falcon being mobbed - you must have been very close to the action here, as the shot came up beautifully. I liked your combination of human recreation and fauna on the water. You certainly get a lot of enjoyment from the water in so many ways - which you covered beautifully in your entry. Technically, I thought you did very well, although I would always discard the use of bird shots with any shakes and also any soft shots (cormorant at 1.55). One of the better entries I think.

July 26th, 2007, 04:48 AM	#9
Geir Inge Trustee Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Larsnes, Norway Posts: 1,343	Hi Dale. Thanks for sharing this great piece. The scenes in this film are beautiful and though I’m not much of a drinker I love a glas of bear now and then :) You’re a great storyteller, but your VO came out a bit noicy, but maybe thats a compression matter? Now I have to watch the other videos. Geir Inge __________________ Geir Inge B. Brekke Visit me at: https://vimeo.com/gibbfilm

July 26th, 2007, 08:53 AM	#10
Gordon Hoffman Major Player Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Pincher Creek, Alberta Canada Posts: 619	Dale Yup this is a good one. With the heat we've been getting you ending is perfect. Well done. Gordon Hoffman

July 26th, 2007, 01:13 PM	#11
John Dennis Robertson Major Player Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Johanesburg South Africa Posts: 217	Although I am in no position to comment on the technical merits of your video,I can say that I enjoyed watching it and learning from it.Thank you

July 26th, 2007, 01:35 PM	#12
Gabriel Yeager Major Player Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Washington, NorthWest USA Posts: 788	Wow, Dale! You must have spent a long time on this one! Some excellent footage in here! I am not sure if it was just a bad download that I had, or if it was that way, but it went from 2:58 to 4:00 of just black... Pretty impressive! ~Gabriel __________________ Gabriel Photography

July 28th, 2007, 11:51 AM	#13
Dale Guthormsen Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Saskatchewan Posts: 3,048	Gabriel, I went on hoidays June 30th so I had all the time in the world to put this one together. I spent most mornings out with the camera hunting for shots. the clip is only about 2:58 so I have no idea about the black to the 4:00 mark. I ran it and did not have that, go figure the darn computers!! I probably should not have used the commorant by the water, but for the story I wanted one by the water where it preydates on other organisms. When I shot that footage it was about 95 degrees out, hence the heat waves. I leanred a lot from this challenge!! First, I should spend as much time in post as in the field. 2nd, Practice the naration a lot more. 3rd, be more darn critical yet. 4th making a shot list first seemed to help a lot putting it together!!! __________________ DATS ALL FOLKS Dale W. Guthormsen

July 31st, 2007, 05:11 AM	#15
Per Johan Naesje Trustee Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Akershus, Norway Posts: 1,413	Hi Dale, this was a fantastic entry! I learned a lot from your story. Second what have been commented by the others. I think the metallic sound is a matter of compression. Would love a more close-up of that hawk! __________________ - Per Johan