Compression Help: Getting that file to 50mb

Ruth Happel · March 18th, 2007, 09:20 PM

Okay, I guess the 4th time is the charm. The upload finally just worked for me. But I did try the same username and password 3 times already earlier today, so you might want to see if only one file can be uploaded at a time. Since it takes a while to upload, people might be bottled up at some point toward the new deadline. Just a thought to check out how it works, since I had so much trouble uploading. I hope someone will let me know if it didn't work. I took a small version of the file- it doesn't look great, but meets the contest rules.

Ruth

Dale Guthormsen · March 18th, 2007, 09:49 PM

I went back and tried again. I can not even get to the page. This last time I got a message that http 404 can not be found. anyway, it doesn't matter which computer I am on!!
Any help out there??

this is the address www.uwolchallenge/upload.php

Kevin Railsback · March 18th, 2007, 10:03 PM

Dale,
did you get an email from Meryem about FTP'ing right to the site?
If not let me know and I'll get you the info.

Steven Gotz · March 18th, 2007, 11:06 PM

I finally decided on a method for encoding from a PC. First let me say that the Sorenson Squeeze demo looked great. But it is watermarked. So, I exported a DV AVI from Premiere Pro, converted it to Quicktime at the same 720X480 frame size, then converted that to 320X240.

I don't know why two conversions worked better than one, but so be it. That's what my eyes told me.

I'm off to ftp the file now...

Marco Wagner · March 18th, 2007, 11:45 PM

PPro2.0 720x480p 16:9 avi
to
VirtualDub 1.61 64bit Lanczos3 resize filter 428x240 avi
to
QuickTime Pro

49.5MB!!!

(only took me 12 tries)

Meryem Ersoz · March 19th, 2007, 08:07 AM

well, by hook and by crook, as the expression goes....all of the folks having problems, seem to have gotten their videos uploaded so far....

thanks for hanging in! and congratulations to those of you who are finishing or have finished. we're at least 17 videos richer so far, in spite of the issues. that's amazing. you all are amazing!

Dale Guthormsen · March 19th, 2007, 09:02 AM

Good Morning,

I believe I got mine on the ftp page. Once I got to the page I just cut and pasted it to the page.

As for compression I had some trouble to start with and was unhappy with the results.
I compressed it in sorenson 3, went to options and changed to wide screen and volia all seemed well in the universe.

I just hope I put it in the right place. Is there any way to0 find that out?

Kevin Railsback · March 19th, 2007, 03:33 PM

Dale,
Check the list of films in this thread: http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=88949

As I move them to the proper directory, I add them to the list.
Just an FYI, there's a partial file sitting in the FTP folder so if your film isn;t listed in the above thread let Meryem know and we'll hunt around for it or you may need to re-upload it.

Don't lose the faith in the challenge because of the tech problems we've had.
They'll be hammered out by next challlenge I'm sure or Meryem, will probably delay the next challenge until they are :)

Even though there's still been bumps, I love this challenge and I hope we all continute to contribute, grow and learn from it.

Marco Wagner · March 20th, 2007, 09:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kevin Railsback

Don't lose the faith in the challenge because of the tech problems we've had.
They'll be hammered out by next challlenge I'm sure or Meryem, will probably delay the next challenge until they are :)

Even though there's still been bumps, I love this challenge and I hope we all continute to contribute, grow and learn from it.

That's part of the challenge, tee hee, pun intended!

Lisa Shofner · March 21st, 2007, 10:44 AM

Ungh.

I've been unable to get my file to compress much. Using Premiere Pro - sorensen 3 compression, lowered the bitrate and audio.

Still around 100mb

I've tried following all the tips in this thread, except the ones that require new software (which i can't buy right now).

Can anyone help me? Getting mighty frustrated. I've even removed all motion from the credits and cut 2 seconds off the opening title to try and save space.

If anyone can help in real time, check IRC undernet server, #videography room. I'll be there.

Brian McKay · March 21st, 2007, 12:14 PM

Double check the final screen size and try reducing the quality. With PP I and sorenson I can easily get down in size ....play with the quality.

Brian

Marco Wagner · March 21st, 2007, 12:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lisa Shofner

Ungh.

I've been unable to get my file to compress much. Using Premiere Pro - sorensen 3 compression, lowered the bitrate and audio.

Still around 100mb

I've tried following all the tips in this thread, except the ones that require new software (which i can't buy right now).

Can anyone help me? Getting mighty frustrated. I've even removed all motion from the credits and cut 2 seconds off the opening title to try and save space.

If anyone can help in real time, check IRC undernet server, #videography room. I'll be there.

I broke my sound down to like 64kbps in order to keep the visual quality.

Lisa Shofner · March 21st, 2007, 01:45 PM

Figured it out.

In Premiere Pro 2, under File > Export

Adobe media Encoder

This menu item let's you pick different types - such as Quicktime web and Mpeg1

I used Mpeg1 and got 29mb that looked better then the 87mb QT Sorensen 3

Well, hopefully others who are using PPro2 might find this info helpful.

Another thing - i couldn't get IE to work for ftp, it kept reseting my connection at 9mb. but WS_FTP worked great to upload.

March 18th, 2007, 09:49 PM	#47
Dale Guthormsen Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Saskatchewan Posts: 3,048	http 404 not found I went back and tried again. I can not even get to the page. This last time I got a message that http 404 can not be found. anyway, it doesn't matter which computer I am on!! Any help out there?? this is the address www.uwolchallenge/upload.php __________________ DATS ALL FOLKS Dale W. Guthormsen

March 18th, 2007, 10:03 PM	#48
Kevin Railsback Trustee Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Cedar Rapids, Iowa Posts: 1,544	Dale, did you get an email from Meryem about FTP'ing right to the site? If not let me know and I'll get you the info. __________________ --==Kevin==-- http:naturephotostudios.com.com

March 18th, 2007, 11:06 PM	#49
Steven Gotz Trustee Join Date: May 2002 Location: Clermont, FL Posts: 1,520	I finally decided on a method for encoding from a PC. First let me say that the Sorenson Squeeze demo looked great. But it is watermarked. So, I exported a DV AVI from Premiere Pro, converted it to Quicktime at the same 720X480 frame size, then converted that to 320X240. I don't know why two conversions worked better than one, but so be it. That's what my eyes told me. I'm off to ftp the file now... __________________ Steven Gotz http://www.stevengotz.com

March 18th, 2007, 11:45 PM	#50
Marco Wagner Trustee Join Date: May 2005 Location: Saint Cloud, Florida Posts: 1,043	PPro2.0 720x480p 16:9 avi to VirtualDub 1.61 64bit Lanczos3 resize filter 428x240 avi to QuickTime Pro 49.5MB!!! (only took me 12 tries) __________________ www.facebook.com/projectspecto

March 19th, 2007, 09:02 AM	#52
Dale Guthormsen Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Saskatchewan Posts: 3,048	done Good Morning, I believe I got mine on the ftp page. Once I got to the page I just cut and pasted it to the page. As for compression I had some trouble to start with and was unhappy with the results. I compressed it in sorenson 3, went to options and changed to wide screen and volia all seemed well in the universe. I just hope I put it in the right place. Is there any way to0 find that out? __________________ DATS ALL FOLKS Dale W. Guthormsen

March 18th, 2007, 09:20 PM	#46
Ruth Happel Major Player Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Black Mountain, NC Posts: 488	Okay, I guess the 4th time is the charm. The upload finally just worked for me. But I did try the same username and password 3 times already earlier today, so you might want to see if only one file can be uploaded at a time. Since it takes a while to upload, people might be bottled up at some point toward the new deadline. Just a thought to check out how it works, since I had so much trouble uploading. I hope someone will let me know if it didn't work. I took a small version of the file- it doesn't look great, but meets the contest rules. Ruth

March 19th, 2007, 08:07 AM	#51
Meryem Ersoz Wrangler Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Boulder, CO Posts: 3,015	well, by hook and by crook, as the expression goes....all of the folks having problems, seem to have gotten their videos uploaded so far.... thanks for hanging in! and congratulations to those of you who are finishing or have finished. we're at least 17 videos richer so far, in spite of the issues. that's amazing. you all are amazing!

March 19th, 2007, 03:33 PM	#53
Kevin Railsback Trustee Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Cedar Rapids, Iowa Posts: 1,544	Dale, Check the list of films in this thread: http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=88949 As I move them to the proper directory, I add them to the list. Just an FYI, there's a partial file sitting in the FTP folder so if your film isn;t listed in the above thread let Meryem know and we'll hunt around for it or you may need to re-upload it. Don't lose the faith in the challenge because of the tech problems we've had. They'll be hammered out by next challlenge I'm sure or Meryem, will probably delay the next challenge until they are :) Even though there's still been bumps, I love this challenge and I hope we all continute to contribute, grow and learn from it. __________________ --==Kevin==-- http:naturephotostudios.com.com

March 21st, 2007, 10:44 AM	#55
Lisa Shofner Major Player Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 373	Ungh. I've been unable to get my file to compress much. Using Premiere Pro - sorensen 3 compression, lowered the bitrate and audio. Still around 100mb I've tried following all the tips in this thread, except the ones that require new software (which i can't buy right now). Can anyone help me? Getting mighty frustrated. I've even removed all motion from the credits and cut 2 seconds off the opening title to try and save space. If anyone can help in real time, check IRC undernet server, #videography room. I'll be there. __________________ [http://www.ljparkerphotography.com] photos [http://www.youtube.com/darkdragonvegas] videos

March 21st, 2007, 12:14 PM	#56
Brian McKay Major Player Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Rankin Inlet, Nunavut Canada Posts: 289	Double check the final screen size and try reducing the quality. With PP I and sorenson I can easily get down in size ....play with the quality. Brian

March 21st, 2007, 01:45 PM	#58
Lisa Shofner Major Player Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 373	Done Figured it out. In Premiere Pro 2, under File > Export Adobe media Encoder This menu item let's you pick different types - such as Quicktime web and Mpeg1 I used Mpeg1 and got 29mb that looked better then the 87mb QT Sorensen 3 Well, hopefully others who are using PPro2 might find this info helpful. Another thing - i couldn't get IE to work for ftp, it kept reseting my connection at 9mb. but WS_FTP worked great to upload. __________________ [http://www.ljparkerphotography.com] photos [http://www.youtube.com/darkdragonvegas] videos Last edited by Lisa Shofner; March 21st, 2007 at 02:06 PM. Reason: added ftp info