UWOL 20- Tales of Wonder and Woe!

Dale Guthormsen · April 15th, 2011, 10:36 AM

Tronde,

No doubt many of the presets will be the same: this should give you something to tinker with.

Dale’s rich preset

Gamma 2 Knee L Black P Ped 2 Set -1 Sharpness 1
HDF M DHV 0 Cor 1 NR1 0 Nr 2 m CMX 2
Cgn 3 CPH 1 RGN 0 GGN 0 BGN 0 RGM 1
RBM 1 GRM 0 GBM 0 BRM 0 BGM 0

I tinkered with this to bring my Sony and my Xlh1 to be as close as possible.

As you know, I prefer more saturated colors.

I am off in a bit to get my final shots.

It is about + 12 / about 50 F, prretty nice really, chances for snow the next two days though!!! LOL

My cineform HD Link is not working either, weird!!!!

Will work on that tomorrow I reckon. always something, eh??

Dale

Trond Saetre · April 15th, 2011, 10:43 AM

Thank you, Dale!

I will try your presets, and also a few other presets I found when I searched google.

I still have lots of trouble with the NeoHD.
Posted in the Cineform forum, and filed trouble ticket. Still no answers.

So you also have trouble with HDLink? I noticed one other over in the Cineform forum reported the same a few days ago.

Good luck with your filming! I look forward to see what you come up with this time.

Mike Sims · April 15th, 2011, 12:17 PM

I managed to get the majority of my remaining footage this morning but I missed a crucial shot which will tie the other stuff I’ve been doing together. Oh, well. Back to the “salt mines”.(well… sort of…)

Trond- I ran Mpeg Streamclip on Windows XP Media Edition. I used it to convert AVCHD files so I could edit with CS2. I’ve never used MXF files so I’m not sure my settings will be any help. I always had to use the Advanced settings and tweak the saturation and contrast. The sliders are very sensitive and just a little on either side of whatever turns out to be right will make poor files. After converting I always had to color correct and sharpen in Premier to make it look good. MS is just a temporary solution so you can edit something before the deadline. I’m still hoping Cineform comes through for you in time. I think it is your best bet in the long run. I wish this were more help.

Dale Guthormsen · April 15th, 2011, 05:49 PM

good evening,

Well, I believe that I have all the shots I need to complete, If weather gets better and access makes it possible I will have two awesome shots to add, if not I will still be happy. I have had more laid back fun with this one than most. Today I had snow blowing on me at times.

Bill Thesken · April 15th, 2011, 07:56 PM

Trond, wishing you luck in sorting out the editing problems. I want to see what that camera can produce ! My idea was to go out and get some good shots, well lit and focused which I did on the first and second day after the theme was announced. Now I have no idea what to do with them...maybe an abstract montage type of editing effect cut to classical music will do the trick.

Trond Saetre · April 16th, 2011, 03:15 AM

Bill, the video straight out of the camera looks amazingly good in my eyes.
Still having a havoc with Cineform and Premiere. Not exactly sure which one of them is causing the trouble, as reinstalling everything did not make any difference.

So this round I'm the one having all the "woes" while the rest of you are supposed to do the "wonders" :)

Trond Saetre · April 16th, 2011, 06:18 AM

I have seen the light :))

For some weird reason, Premiere now can play the Cineform avi files if I choose a XDCAM EX preset, but not if I use a Cineform preset.
Weird, right?

Anyway, seems like there might be a tiny little hope that I can make something for UC20 after all. Wohoo.
And off I go. No net (except for on my phone) until the day after the deadline...
From now on, it's all about rule 11. :)

Looking forward to see what you all can come up with. It's a bright tough theme.

Mike Sims · April 16th, 2011, 01:37 PM

Congratulations Trond! Good luck on your trip.

I had some fantastic good luck myself today. Not only did I get the shots I missed yesterday, I got two shots I never even thought would be possible. Once again another young lady helped me out. One subject is a critically endangered species (thankfully not legislatively delisted through malicious trickery) that, the last I had heard, had not even been seen in over twenty years. Apparently, they showed up again earlier this year and are being seen regularly. They have a very limited range and are only found in one specific spot. There are very few photos and I may have the only video so far. I will be going back after the deadline with different kit in an effort to get even better footage. Pretty exciting stuff! I need to shift gears now and start editing. I need to learn a new technique this time and I hope it doesn’t slow me down too much to finish.

I hope everyone is well and proceeding to plan. Best wishes.

Catherine Russell · April 18th, 2011, 11:04 AM

Hey Mike:

What is it with these young ladies that seem to appear from nowhere in the Texan outback ready and waiting to be your assistant? ;-)

Your rare capture on film is quite exciting and I can't wait to see what it is.

I'm looking to upgrade soon to a new Mac and CS5 software. There really isn't a choice because everything is geared for Intel-Mac and thus upgrades to older software won't work on these new systems. How do you like it (the CS5, I mean)? I'm really excited to try it.

--------------
Nice job Trond, sticking with it and meeting the challenge.

I'm getting excited for your entries, everyone!

Cat

Steve Siegel · April 18th, 2011, 04:02 PM

Hey Cat,
Are you switching to a Mac from a PC? If so, what was it that finally drove you over to the Dark Side?
Mac's are just so much more expensive to buy, and to repair or replace. I have just upgraded to CS5
myself, and find it pretty much the same as CS4, except with more latitude in types of formats it will accomodate. If you have a Mac, why didn't you go with Final Cut Pro?

Mike Sims · April 18th, 2011, 04:15 PM

Beats me, Cat, but I suspect it has a lot more to do with the subject and almost nothing to do with the guy behind the camera. I’m still pretty excited about that footage although it’s probably nothing exciting to look at. I can’t say more yet without revealing too much.

I really like CS5. It was a big step up for me from CS2. I had to build a new computer to run it and, although that wasn’t hard, I had more hiccups with the new hardware than I ever did with the software. There are only two things I don’t like. First, CS5.0 came with Soundbooth instead of Audition and it’s pretty cheesy in comparison. Second, they intend to extort a further $400 from me to upgrade to CS5.5- I find that seriously irritating. At least it comes with Audition…

Catherine Russell · April 19th, 2011, 07:05 AM

Hi Steve:

I'm a Mac gal through and through. I have and use the Apple products like FCP, etc. but I'm an After Effects gal as well. AE is where my heart is. But of course, AE isn't sold anymore as a stand alone but is bundled in with all of the CS products. Adobe makes lots of money that way! So upgrading the Mac, means upgrading all the software that can run only on the Intel version of Mac and being forced to buy stuff I wouldn't otherwise buy. Ah, we live in a monopoly world n'est pas?

How's your new camera working out? Nice to have you pop in on the forum!

Hey Mike:

This is good info, thank you! As far as your suspicion that the interest has nothing to do with what's behind the camera, I think I will beg to differ on that one. I don't think us ladies are willing to crawl through the mud for just anyone! :)

I've said before that this is turning out to be the year for raptors here. It turns out that now a Bald Eagle pair have a nest in a cottonwood not far from our house. I'm hoping to attempt some footage later this week if I can. I'll keep you all posted!

Steve, I need you here for filming the female Northern Harrier who is still here! She is always in motion!

Cat

Mike Sims · April 20th, 2011, 02:03 PM

That’s exciting news about the eagles Catherine! I look forward to seeing some footage. Also, around here, areas which are frequented by Harriers by day generally have Short-eared Owls by night. They become active around dusk. It might be worth a look…

Dale Guthormsen · April 20th, 2011, 05:16 PM

Good afternoon,

Well, I pretty much have a rap on it!! Being it is only 3 minutes I had to cut out all kinds of nice footage I would have liked to use.

Holding to Cats Challenge, I think this is likly the nicest piece I have put together.

Mike Sims · April 22nd, 2011, 11:35 AM

I’m not through yet, but I can see light at the end of the tunnel! (Time is running out- got to get the last of these light jokes in now.) I’ve used the whole three minutes and let the credits run longer, as is allowed. The credits are an animation and I just hope our judge knows it’s OK…

April 15th, 2011, 10:36 AM	#31
Dale Guthormsen Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Saskatchewan Posts: 3,048	Re: UWOL 20- Tales of Wonder and Woe! Tronde, No doubt many of the presets will be the same: this should give you something to tinker with. Dale’s rich preset Gamma 2 Knee L Black P Ped 2 Set -1 Sharpness 1 HDF M DHV 0 Cor 1 NR1 0 Nr 2 m CMX 2 Cgn 3 CPH 1 RGN 0 GGN 0 BGN 0 RGM 1 RBM 1 GRM 0 GBM 0 BRM 0 BGM 0 I tinkered with this to bring my Sony and my Xlh1 to be as close as possible. As you know, I prefer more saturated colors. I am off in a bit to get my final shots. It is about + 12 / about 50 F, prretty nice really, chances for snow the next two days though!!! LOL My cineform HD Link is not working either, weird!!!! Will work on that tomorrow I reckon. always something, eh?? Dale __________________ DATS ALL FOLKS Dale W. Guthormsen

April 15th, 2011, 10:43 AM	#32
Trond Saetre Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Bergen, Norway Posts: 3,375	Re: UWOL 20- Tales of Wonder and Woe! Thank you, Dale! I will try your presets, and also a few other presets I found when I searched google. I still have lots of trouble with the NeoHD. Posted in the Cineform forum, and filed trouble ticket. Still no answers. So you also have trouble with HDLink? I noticed one other over in the Cineform forum reported the same a few days ago. Good luck with your filming! I look forward to see what you come up with this time.

April 15th, 2011, 12:17 PM	#33
Mike Sims Major Player Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: San Antonio, Texas Posts: 880	Re: UWOL 20- Tales of Wonder and Woe! I managed to get the majority of my remaining footage this morning but I missed a crucial shot which will tie the other stuff I’ve been doing together. Oh, well. Back to the “salt mines”.(well… sort of…) Trond- I ran Mpeg Streamclip on Windows XP Media Edition. I used it to convert AVCHD files so I could edit with CS2. I’ve never used MXF files so I’m not sure my settings will be any help. I always had to use the Advanced settings and tweak the saturation and contrast. The sliders are very sensitive and just a little on either side of whatever turns out to be right will make poor files. After converting I always had to color correct and sharpen in Premier to make it look good. MS is just a temporary solution so you can edit something before the deadline. I’m still hoping Cineform comes through for you in time. I think it is your best bet in the long run. I wish this were more help.

April 15th, 2011, 05:49 PM	#34
Dale Guthormsen Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Saskatchewan Posts: 3,048	Re: UWOL 20- Tales of Wonder and Woe! good evening, Well, I believe that I have all the shots I need to complete, If weather gets better and access makes it possible I will have two awesome shots to add, if not I will still be happy. I have had more laid back fun with this one than most. Today I had snow blowing on me at times. __________________ DATS ALL FOLKS Dale W. Guthormsen

April 15th, 2011, 07:56 PM	#35
Bill Thesken Major Player Join Date: May 2008 Location: HI, USA Posts: 622	Re: UWOL 20- Tales of Wonder and Woe! Trond, wishing you luck in sorting out the editing problems. I want to see what that camera can produce ! My idea was to go out and get some good shots, well lit and focused which I did on the first and second day after the theme was announced. Now I have no idea what to do with them...maybe an abstract montage type of editing effect cut to classical music will do the trick.

April 16th, 2011, 03:15 AM	#36
Trond Saetre Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Bergen, Norway Posts: 3,375	Re: UWOL 20- Tales of Wonder and Woe! Bill, the video straight out of the camera looks amazingly good in my eyes. Still having a havoc with Cineform and Premiere. Not exactly sure which one of them is causing the trouble, as reinstalling everything did not make any difference. So this round I'm the one having all the "woes" while the rest of you are supposed to do the "wonders" :)

April 16th, 2011, 06:18 AM	#37
Trond Saetre Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Bergen, Norway Posts: 3,375	Re: UWOL 20- Tales of Wonder and Woe! I have seen the light :)) For some weird reason, Premiere now can play the Cineform avi files if I choose a XDCAM EX preset, but not if I use a Cineform preset. Weird, right? Anyway, seems like there might be a tiny little hope that I can make something for UC20 after all. Wohoo. And off I go. No net (except for on my phone) until the day after the deadline... From now on, it's all about rule 11. :) Looking forward to see what you all can come up with. It's a bright tough theme.

April 16th, 2011, 01:37 PM	#38
Mike Sims Major Player Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: San Antonio, Texas Posts: 880	Re: UWOL 20- Tales of Wonder and Woe! Congratulations Trond! Good luck on your trip. I had some fantastic good luck myself today. Not only did I get the shots I missed yesterday, I got two shots I never even thought would be possible. Once again another young lady helped me out. One subject is a critically endangered species (thankfully not legislatively delisted through malicious trickery) that, the last I had heard, had not even been seen in over twenty years. Apparently, they showed up again earlier this year and are being seen regularly. They have a very limited range and are only found in one specific spot. There are very few photos and I may have the only video so far. I will be going back after the deadline with different kit in an effort to get even better footage. Pretty exciting stuff! I need to shift gears now and start editing. I need to learn a new technique this time and I hope it doesn’t slow me down too much to finish. I hope everyone is well and proceeding to plan. Best wishes.

April 18th, 2011, 11:04 AM	#39
Catherine Russell Trustee Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Lyons, Colorado Posts: 1,224	Re: UWOL 20- Tales of Wonder and Woe! Hey Mike: What is it with these young ladies that seem to appear from nowhere in the Texan outback ready and waiting to be your assistant? ;-) Your rare capture on film is quite exciting and I can't wait to see what it is. I'm looking to upgrade soon to a new Mac and CS5 software. There really isn't a choice because everything is geared for Intel-Mac and thus upgrades to older software won't work on these new systems. How do you like it (the CS5, I mean)? I'm really excited to try it. -------------- Nice job Trond, sticking with it and meeting the challenge. I'm getting excited for your entries, everyone! Cat

April 18th, 2011, 04:02 PM	#40
Steve Siegel Major Player Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Albuquerque, New Mexico, USA Posts: 840	Re: UWOL 20- Tales of Wonder and Woe! Hey Cat, Are you switching to a Mac from a PC? If so, what was it that finally drove you over to the Dark Side? Mac's are just so much more expensive to buy, and to repair or replace. I have just upgraded to CS5 myself, and find it pretty much the same as CS4, except with more latitude in types of formats it will accomodate. If you have a Mac, why didn't you go with Final Cut Pro?

April 18th, 2011, 04:15 PM	#41
Mike Sims Major Player Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: San Antonio, Texas Posts: 880	Re: UWOL 20- Tales of Wonder and Woe! Beats me, Cat, but I suspect it has a lot more to do with the subject and almost nothing to do with the guy behind the camera. I’m still pretty excited about that footage although it’s probably nothing exciting to look at. I can’t say more yet without revealing too much. I really like CS5. It was a big step up for me from CS2. I had to build a new computer to run it and, although that wasn’t hard, I had more hiccups with the new hardware than I ever did with the software. There are only two things I don’t like. First, CS5.0 came with Soundbooth instead of Audition and it’s pretty cheesy in comparison. Second, they intend to extort a further $400 from me to upgrade to CS5.5- I find that seriously irritating. At least it comes with Audition…

April 19th, 2011, 07:05 AM	#42
Catherine Russell Trustee Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Lyons, Colorado Posts: 1,224	Re: UWOL 20- Tales of Wonder and Woe! Hi Steve: I'm a Mac gal through and through. I have and use the Apple products like FCP, etc. but I'm an After Effects gal as well. AE is where my heart is. But of course, AE isn't sold anymore as a stand alone but is bundled in with all of the CS products. Adobe makes lots of money that way! So upgrading the Mac, means upgrading all the software that can run only on the Intel version of Mac and being forced to buy stuff I wouldn't otherwise buy. Ah, we live in a monopoly world n'est pas? How's your new camera working out? Nice to have you pop in on the forum! Hey Mike: This is good info, thank you! As far as your suspicion that the interest has nothing to do with what's behind the camera, I think I will beg to differ on that one. I don't think us ladies are willing to crawl through the mud for just anyone! :) I've said before that this is turning out to be the year for raptors here. It turns out that now a Bald Eagle pair have a nest in a cottonwood not far from our house. I'm hoping to attempt some footage later this week if I can. I'll keep you all posted! Steve, I need you here for filming the female Northern Harrier who is still here! She is always in motion! Cat

April 20th, 2011, 02:03 PM	#43
Mike Sims Major Player Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: San Antonio, Texas Posts: 880	Re: UWOL 20- Tales of Wonder and Woe! That’s exciting news about the eagles Catherine! I look forward to seeing some footage. Also, around here, areas which are frequented by Harriers by day generally have Short-eared Owls by night. They become active around dusk. It might be worth a look…

April 20th, 2011, 05:16 PM	#44
Dale Guthormsen Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Saskatchewan Posts: 3,048	Re: UWOL 20- Tales of Wonder and Woe! Good afternoon, Well, I pretty much have a rap on it!! Being it is only 3 minutes I had to cut out all kinds of nice footage I would have liked to use. Holding to Cats Challenge, I think this is likly the nicest piece I have put together. __________________ DATS ALL FOLKS Dale W. Guthormsen

April 22nd, 2011, 11:35 AM	#45
Mike Sims Major Player Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: San Antonio, Texas Posts: 880	Re: UWOL 20- Tales of Wonder and Woe! I’m not through yet, but I can see light at the end of the tunnel! (Time is running out- got to get the last of these light jokes in now.) I’ve used the whole three minutes and let the credits run longer, as is allowed. The credits are an animation and I just hope our judge knows it’s OK…