UWOL 20- Tales of Wonder and Woe!

Dale Guthormsen · April 9th, 2011, 06:58 PM

While I have altered my theme for obvious reasons, I was out for 5 hours yestereday and got some beautiful footage. It appears the new glasses are helping!!! I am going to keep things simple this round.
Not sure if I even want to do a voice over.

rule 11 is really prevailing today. I got my opening shot and did not even have to wear a Parka!!!

Mike Sims · April 10th, 2011, 05:56 PM

I had a good day today. I got some actual behaviour instead of just static shots. I met a young woman who volunteered to help out by wrangling critters. It’s so unusual to meet someone willing to just drop what they are doing and help a stranger, especially when it involves crawling on hands and knees in the mud! I haven’t been able to review the footage yet, but I think I got what I need and some of it might be nice. I just hope some of it is in focus! I need new glasses too!

Catherine Russell · April 11th, 2011, 03:38 PM

Hi guys:

This post is a tale of woe but not entirely appropriate here on a film making thread. We are however lovers of wildlife, so I'd just thought I'd let you know in case you haven't picked up on this yet (here in the U.S.) and give you a link to where you can find out more about it if you wish outside of the UWOL forum.

The last-minute budget deal agreed to by Congressional leaders on Friday night will strip endangered species protection from gray wolves across most of the Northern Rockies.

To find out more about it go to NRDC: Natural Resources Defense Council - The Earth's Best Defense

Cat

Geir Inge · April 12th, 2011, 09:34 AM

OK, then I have written my manuscript, and I am happy with it.
Haven't got time for any shooting yet, but I hope to do so next week.
Also that I can shoot something (anything) that'll fit my manuscript.
Weather forecast is not good for the next days at my place, but I hope the sun will show up.
Wish I had some more sparetime left, but I'll guess it's a part of being an uwoler, haha,
always running out of time.
Hope evryone is doing fine and got their plans running :)

Trond Saetre · April 12th, 2011, 10:42 AM

There, now I have my camera upgraded to PAL in addition to NTSC. Finally I can begin to think about what the camera is supposed to do, shoot film.
My brain, please turn your creative thoughts on. I need to come up with something good this time.

Dale Guthormsen · April 12th, 2011, 02:59 PM

Tronde,

while you are racking your brain for ideas you should work on a preset that will enrich your shots a bit. Canons come stcok a bit on the flat side with the idea of doing the rest in post. I personally like to have my cameras shoot as close to the end result as possible. Just a thought.

Trond Saetre · April 12th, 2011, 03:41 PM

Dale, I agree with you. I want it as good as it can be right out of the camera.
Since you also are a Canon user, any tips/basic guide lines you could share?

Tomorrow will be a day with trials, hopefully not too many errors, and learn as much as I can about the camera.
Maybe that will be the theme for my entry: "Will I see the light?" :)
Rule 11 is definitely with me.

Kevin Railsback · April 14th, 2011, 06:27 AM

Having a hard time concentrating and focusing.
All I think about is getting my online biz up and running. So, I start thinking about the theme and the next thing you know I'm mind mapping my guide or working on SEO for my content.

Been out shooting, just not excited about Iowa at this time of year.

Catherine Russell · April 14th, 2011, 08:16 AM

Hi Kevin:

So can you find a way to wrap the theme up in your new online business? Produce something that's actually for your business first, that just happens to relate in some new angle to the UWOL theme second.

I'd say go with the flow. If that is where your energies are focused right now, then capitalize on that momentum. But if we can put our creative thoughts together, hopefully we can come up with a way to tackle both at once? Don't think of it as shooting for UWOL, think of it as shooting for your business but you get to premiere it to the UWOL community first!

Cat

Trond Saetre · April 14th, 2011, 09:57 AM

Going from SD to HD video isn't supposed to be easy, or is it?
All of a sudden, Premiere Pro does not play my cineform avi files anymore. So until that issue is sorted out, I can't even edit any footage. (My Premiere CS3 is to old to handle the native mxf files from the camera).

Oh well, still many days until the deadline. Have to be optimistic until the last second.

Hope all of you are doing well!

Catherine Russell · April 14th, 2011, 11:41 AM

Hi Trond:

If you have compatibility issues, you might want to try using Squared 5 Mpeg Streamclip software.

It's free and takes just about every film codec and converts to just about any film codec.

You can check it out here:

Squared 5 - MPEG Streamclip video converter for Mac and Windows

I use it all the time. My HD camera saves as .TOD files which are unusable in Adobe After Effects, etc. Using this conversion software is part of my routine.

Worth a try anyway.

Cheers,

Cat

Trond Saetre · April 14th, 2011, 12:08 PM

Thanks Catherine, as you say, it is worth a try.

Mike Sims · April 14th, 2011, 04:42 PM

Hi Trond. Sorry you are having problems. My switch to HD wasn't smooth either. I also recommend Mpeg Steamclip. I used it until I upgraded to CS5 and didn't need to anymore. Other than the editing problems, how is the new camera working out?

Dale Guthormsen · April 14th, 2011, 07:54 PM

Ok, its mid april and it has been snowing all day andmay continue through the weekend, UUUgggg!

When I moved here in 1980, also mid April, there were dust devils blowing across the dirt fields!!!

Will be going an hour away tomorrow for some finishing shots, Joy, Joy!!!

I have the script written, wil likly build it in the morning.

We are having fun with this one, and I even have a couple shots I really like!!

Hope you all are holding to rule 11!!!!!!

Trond Saetre · April 14th, 2011, 10:21 PM

Mike,

Which settings do you use for MPEG Streamclip? Are you on windows or mac?
I am trying out all the different ones, and it appears that no matter what I use, it degrades the image quality more or less.

Still trying to figure out why Cineform (NeoHD) all of a sudden stopped cooperating. That's a big mystery.

But the camera itself is amazing. It's rule 11 all the way when I'm using it....
(Until it's time to edit, for now)

April 9th, 2011, 06:58 PM	#16
Dale Guthormsen Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Saskatchewan Posts: 3,048	Re: UWOL 20- Tales of Wonder and Woe! While I have altered my theme for obvious reasons, I was out for 5 hours yestereday and got some beautiful footage. It appears the new glasses are helping!!! I am going to keep things simple this round. Not sure if I even want to do a voice over. rule 11 is really prevailing today. I got my opening shot and did not even have to wear a Parka!!! __________________ DATS ALL FOLKS Dale W. Guthormsen

April 10th, 2011, 05:56 PM	#17
Mike Sims Major Player Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: San Antonio, Texas Posts: 880	Re: UWOL 20- Tales of Wonder and Woe! I had a good day today. I got some actual behaviour instead of just static shots. I met a young woman who volunteered to help out by wrangling critters. It’s so unusual to meet someone willing to just drop what they are doing and help a stranger, especially when it involves crawling on hands and knees in the mud! I haven’t been able to review the footage yet, but I think I got what I need and some of it might be nice. I just hope some of it is in focus! I need new glasses too!

April 11th, 2011, 03:38 PM	#18
Catherine Russell Trustee Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Lyons, Colorado Posts: 1,224	Re: UWOL 20- Tales of Wonder and Woe! Hi guys: This post is a tale of woe but not entirely appropriate here on a film making thread. We are however lovers of wildlife, so I'd just thought I'd let you know in case you haven't picked up on this yet (here in the U.S.) and give you a link to where you can find out more about it if you wish outside of the UWOL forum. The last-minute budget deal agreed to by Congressional leaders on Friday night will strip endangered species protection from gray wolves across most of the Northern Rockies. To find out more about it go to NRDC: Natural Resources Defense Council - The Earth's Best Defense Cat

April 12th, 2011, 09:34 AM	#19
Geir Inge Trustee Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Larsnes, Norway Posts: 1,343	Re: UWOL 20- Tales of Wonder and Woe! OK, then I have written my manuscript, and I am happy with it. Haven't got time for any shooting yet, but I hope to do so next week. Also that I can shoot something (anything) that'll fit my manuscript. Weather forecast is not good for the next days at my place, but I hope the sun will show up. Wish I had some more sparetime left, but I'll guess it's a part of being an uwoler, haha, always running out of time. Hope evryone is doing fine and got their plans running :) __________________ Geir Inge B. Brekke Visit me at: https://vimeo.com/gibbfilm

April 12th, 2011, 10:42 AM	#20
Trond Saetre Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Bergen, Norway Posts: 3,375	Re: UWOL 20- Tales of Wonder and Woe! There, now I have my camera upgraded to PAL in addition to NTSC. Finally I can begin to think about what the camera is supposed to do, shoot film. My brain, please turn your creative thoughts on. I need to come up with something good this time.

April 12th, 2011, 02:59 PM	#21
Dale Guthormsen Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Saskatchewan Posts: 3,048	Re: UWOL 20- Tales of Wonder and Woe! Tronde, while you are racking your brain for ideas you should work on a preset that will enrich your shots a bit. Canons come stcok a bit on the flat side with the idea of doing the rest in post. I personally like to have my cameras shoot as close to the end result as possible. Just a thought. __________________ DATS ALL FOLKS Dale W. Guthormsen

April 12th, 2011, 03:41 PM	#22
Trond Saetre Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Bergen, Norway Posts: 3,375	Re: UWOL 20- Tales of Wonder and Woe! Dale, I agree with you. I want it as good as it can be right out of the camera. Since you also are a Canon user, any tips/basic guide lines you could share? Tomorrow will be a day with trials, hopefully not too many errors, and learn as much as I can about the camera. Maybe that will be the theme for my entry: "Will I see the light?" :) Rule 11 is definitely with me.

April 14th, 2011, 06:27 AM	#23
Kevin Railsback Trustee Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Cedar Rapids, Iowa Posts: 1,544	Re: UWOL 20- Tales of Wonder and Woe! Having a hard time concentrating and focusing. All I think about is getting my online biz up and running. So, I start thinking about the theme and the next thing you know I'm mind mapping my guide or working on SEO for my content. Been out shooting, just not excited about Iowa at this time of year. __________________ --==Kevin==-- http:naturephotostudios.com.com

April 14th, 2011, 08:16 AM	#24
Catherine Russell Trustee Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Lyons, Colorado Posts: 1,224	Re: UWOL 20- Tales of Wonder and Woe! Hi Kevin: So can you find a way to wrap the theme up in your new online business? Produce something that's actually for your business first, that just happens to relate in some new angle to the UWOL theme second. I'd say go with the flow. If that is where your energies are focused right now, then capitalize on that momentum. But if we can put our creative thoughts together, hopefully we can come up with a way to tackle both at once? Don't think of it as shooting for UWOL, think of it as shooting for your business but you get to premiere it to the UWOL community first! Cat

April 14th, 2011, 09:57 AM	#25
Trond Saetre Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Bergen, Norway Posts: 3,375	Re: UWOL 20- Tales of Wonder and Woe! Going from SD to HD video isn't supposed to be easy, or is it? All of a sudden, Premiere Pro does not play my cineform avi files anymore. So until that issue is sorted out, I can't even edit any footage. (My Premiere CS3 is to old to handle the native mxf files from the camera). Oh well, still many days until the deadline. Have to be optimistic until the last second. Hope all of you are doing well!

April 14th, 2011, 11:41 AM	#26
Catherine Russell Trustee Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Lyons, Colorado Posts: 1,224	Re: UWOL 20- Tales of Wonder and Woe! Hi Trond: If you have compatibility issues, you might want to try using Squared 5 Mpeg Streamclip software. It's free and takes just about every film codec and converts to just about any film codec. You can check it out here: Squared 5 - MPEG Streamclip video converter for Mac and Windows I use it all the time. My HD camera saves as .TOD files which are unusable in Adobe After Effects, etc. Using this conversion software is part of my routine. Worth a try anyway. Cheers, Cat

April 14th, 2011, 12:08 PM	#27
Trond Saetre Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Bergen, Norway Posts: 3,375	Re: UWOL 20- Tales of Wonder and Woe! Thanks Catherine, as you say, it is worth a try.

April 14th, 2011, 04:42 PM	#28
Mike Sims Major Player Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: San Antonio, Texas Posts: 880	Re: UWOL 20- Tales of Wonder and Woe! Hi Trond. Sorry you are having problems. My switch to HD wasn't smooth either. I also recommend Mpeg Steamclip. I used it until I upgraded to CS5 and didn't need to anymore. Other than the editing problems, how is the new camera working out?

April 14th, 2011, 07:54 PM	#29
Dale Guthormsen Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Saskatchewan Posts: 3,048	Re: UWOL 20- Tales of Wonder and Woe! Ok, its mid april and it has been snowing all day andmay continue through the weekend, UUUgggg! When I moved here in 1980, also mid April, there were dust devils blowing across the dirt fields!!! Will be going an hour away tomorrow for some finishing shots, Joy, Joy!!! I have the script written, wil likly build it in the morning. We are having fun with this one, and I even have a couple shots I really like!! Hope you all are holding to rule 11!!!!!! __________________ DATS ALL FOLKS Dale W. Guthormsen

April 14th, 2011, 10:21 PM	#30
Trond Saetre Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Bergen, Norway Posts: 3,375	Re: UWOL 20- Tales of Wonder and Woe! Mike, Which settings do you use for MPEG Streamclip? Are you on windows or mac? I am trying out all the different ones, and it appears that no matter what I use, it degrades the image quality more or less. Still trying to figure out why Cineform (NeoHD) all of a sudden stopped cooperating. That's a big mystery. But the camera itself is amazing. It's rule 11 all the way when I'm using it.... (Until it's time to edit, for now)