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Dale Guthormsen · August 2nd, 2009, 04:00 PM

Good afternoon, evening or morning;

Well, I almost did not make this round. Ideas were all to grand and I could not get my head around producing anything in three minutes!! I did the water cycle back in uwol 6 or so; hence that idea was out. I left out a lot of possible voiceover to allow the viewer to connect to the interrelationships on their own. Do not know if I was succesful or not. There are a huge number of cycles to hunt for through it. Hope it is enjoyed for what it is worth.

Oh yea, I recorded AN IMPROVISED VERSION of "listen to the rythym of the falling rain" but could not get a good enough recorded version to not abuse ones ears (way to tinny on the trebles).

This is a link to a little nicer version.

Symbiotic Cycles UWOL 14 on Vimeo

Mike Sims · August 3rd, 2009, 09:13 PM

Hey Dale,
I liked the really slick in and out of the water compositions. I also liked those bumblebee and eastern kingbird shots. I did think that the waterfall sounds were a little hot in the mix in a couple of places. Very pretty shots and nice editing. Congratulations.

Chris Barcellos · August 3rd, 2009, 09:50 PM

Some very nice images Dale. Crisp and colorful !! What camera ?

Geir Inge · August 4th, 2009, 12:50 PM

Good afternoon Dale.
Some great and colorful shots you have there, and the same about choice of topic.
There’s only one thing I will mention, and that’s the soundtrack.
Maybe the mix could have been adjusted a bit more? To make a better balance between the music, water and narration? Just a thought.
I failed with my own soundtrack in this round, and made it all too low.

Ok, all the best.
Geir Inge

Meryem Ersoz · August 4th, 2009, 01:11 PM

i'm digging your macro work, really seems to be helping you with focus issues. agree the soundtrack needed some adjustments.

pretty stuff!

i like the imminent cat threat. funny how we can make our loving, benign pets look like threats just by juxtaposing the images.

Trond Saetre · August 4th, 2009, 03:28 PM

Hi Dale,
Thank you for yet another good video from you!
Glad you made it.
I agree with the previous comments.

At 1:21 did you accidentally bump your tripod a little. (or was it an intentional quick short pan to the left?)

Rich Ryan · August 4th, 2009, 08:37 PM

Dale,

What a nice video. I really liked the opening and closing sequence coming into and out of the water. How did you shoot that sequence?

The little bit with the bee on the flower at 0:41 was nice.

Did you use a polarizer when you shoot the fish?

rich

Mihali Moore · August 5th, 2009, 04:56 AM

Dale,

Lovely colours and composition. It really looked good. Loved the opening shot coming from the water. Wasn't sure what you were trying to do with the pan away from the cat?

Very nice film.

Mihali

Ron Chant · August 6th, 2009, 08:30 AM

Hi Dale,
I bet your glad all that snow has gone, and now your film “Symbiotic Cycles” Rising from the murky deeps into sunshine, to see brightly Coloured flowers and warm winds,.
Only one observation was the cat to pigeon shot, it may have been better as a fade cut.

Per Johan Naesje · August 6th, 2009, 01:01 PM

Hi Dale,
we had exactly the same word in the opening narrating - Water!

As others have already told you the soundtrack need to be improved, but I think you´re on the right track. Some more small adjustments and you will be there soon, Dale!

I liked your colorful opening and ending sessions. Very creative done!

The bumble bee was also nice.

Keep up your good work, Dale!

Finn-Erik Faale · August 6th, 2009, 02:28 PM

I also appreciate your inventive beginning and ending. You have good colour balance and sharp pictures. Your music choice is suitable.

Dale Guthormsen · August 8th, 2009, 11:26 AM

Good Morning All,

Been away at Deaf camp all week, home feeding the critters, check the list and head back for the remaining four days, will respond to others entrys when I return.

thank you for the articulate responses., I appreciate it and agree with all the comments. More to work on.

I need to be more patient and work harder at my audio for certain, finding a balance between all the tracks is always a challenge for me.

The pan was from the cat who was pretending to ignore the pigeons to the pigeon seeing the cat move and flash away, preadtion at the pond side. the pigeons are pretty wise to the cat and quite jumpy at the pond edge.

I shot the under water sequence with my gl2 ( In a plastic sealed tube), the rest was shot with the xlh1. I used both a telephoto and the standard lens.

thanks again,

Meryem Ersoz · August 8th, 2009, 02:39 PM

well, there is always more to work on, Dale, but you have come a long way since your early entries and you should be proud of your progress. i don't know anyone who works harder....

August 2nd, 2009, 04:00 PM	#1
Dale Guthormsen Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Saskatchewan Posts: 3,048	Uwol 14 symbiotic cycles Good afternoon, evening or morning; Well, I almost did not make this round. Ideas were all to grand and I could not get my head around producing anything in three minutes!! I did the water cycle back in uwol 6 or so; hence that idea was out. I left out a lot of possible voiceover to allow the viewer to connect to the interrelationships on their own. Do not know if I was succesful or not. There are a huge number of cycles to hunt for through it. Hope it is enjoyed for what it is worth. Oh yea, I recorded AN IMPROVISED VERSION of "listen to the rythym of the falling rain" but could not get a good enough recorded version to not abuse ones ears (way to tinny on the trebles). This is a link to a little nicer version. Symbiotic Cycles UWOL 14 on Vimeo __________________ DATS ALL FOLKS Dale W. Guthormsen

August 3rd, 2009, 09:50 PM	#3
Chris Barcellos Inner Circle Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Elk Grove CA Posts: 6,838	Some very nice images Dale. Crisp and colorful !! What camera ? __________________ Chris J. Barcellos

August 4th, 2009, 12:50 PM	#4
Geir Inge Trustee Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Larsnes, Norway Posts: 1,343	Good afternoon Dale. Some great and colorful shots you have there, and the same about choice of topic. There’s only one thing I will mention, and that’s the soundtrack. Maybe the mix could have been adjusted a bit more? To make a better balance between the music, water and narration? Just a thought. I failed with my own soundtrack in this round, and made it all too low. Ok, all the best. Geir Inge __________________ Geir Inge B. Brekke Visit me at: https://vimeo.com/gibbfilm

August 6th, 2009, 08:30 AM	#9
Ron Chant Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: West-London - England Posts: 125	Hi Dale, I bet your glad all that snow has gone, and now your film “Symbiotic Cycles” Rising from the murky deeps into sunshine, to see brightly Coloured flowers and warm winds,. Only one observation was the cat to pigeon shot, it may have been better as a fade cut. __________________ <')))>{

August 6th, 2009, 01:01 PM	#10
Per Johan Naesje Trustee Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Akershus, Norway Posts: 1,413	Hi Dale, we had exactly the same word in the opening narrating - Water! As others have already told you the soundtrack need to be improved, but I think you´re on the right track. Some more small adjustments and you will be there soon, Dale! I liked your colorful opening and ending sessions. Very creative done! The bumble bee was also nice. Keep up your good work, Dale! __________________ - Per Johan

August 3rd, 2009, 09:13 PM	#2
Mike Sims Major Player Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: San Antonio, Texas Posts: 880	Hey Dale, I liked the really slick in and out of the water compositions. I also liked those bumblebee and eastern kingbird shots. I did think that the waterfall sounds were a little hot in the mix in a couple of places. Very pretty shots and nice editing. Congratulations.

August 4th, 2009, 01:11 PM	#5
Meryem Ersoz Wrangler Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Boulder, CO Posts: 3,015	i'm digging your macro work, really seems to be helping you with focus issues. agree the soundtrack needed some adjustments. pretty stuff! i like the imminent cat threat. funny how we can make our loving, benign pets look like threats just by juxtaposing the images.

August 4th, 2009, 03:28 PM	#6
Trond Saetre Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Bergen, Norway Posts: 3,375	Hi Dale, Thank you for yet another good video from you! Glad you made it. I agree with the previous comments. At 1:21 did you accidentally bump your tripod a little. (or was it an intentional quick short pan to the left?)

August 4th, 2009, 08:37 PM	#7
Rich Ryan Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Pleasanton, CA Posts: 127	Dale, What a nice video. I really liked the opening and closing sequence coming into and out of the water. How did you shoot that sequence? The little bit with the bee on the flower at 0:41 was nice. Did you use a polarizer when you shoot the fish? rich

August 5th, 2009, 04:56 AM	#8
Mihali Moore Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Bristol Posts: 92	Dale, Lovely colours and composition. It really looked good. Loved the opening shot coming from the water. Wasn't sure what you were trying to do with the pan away from the cat? Very nice film. Mihali

August 6th, 2009, 02:28 PM	#11
Finn-Erik Faale Major Player Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Porsgrunn Norway Posts: 280	I also appreciate your inventive beginning and ending. You have good colour balance and sharp pictures. Your music choice is suitable.

August 8th, 2009, 11:26 AM	#12
Dale Guthormsen Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Saskatchewan Posts: 3,048	Good Morning All, Been away at Deaf camp all week, home feeding the critters, check the list and head back for the remaining four days, will respond to others entrys when I return. thank you for the articulate responses., I appreciate it and agree with all the comments. More to work on. I need to be more patient and work harder at my audio for certain, finding a balance between all the tracks is always a challenge for me. The pan was from the cat who was pretending to ignore the pigeons to the pigeon seeing the cat move and flash away, preadtion at the pond side. the pigeons are pretty wise to the cat and quite jumpy at the pond edge. I shot the under water sequence with my gl2 ( In a plastic sealed tube), the rest was shot with the xlh1. I used both a telephoto and the standard lens. thanks again, __________________ DATS ALL FOLKS Dale W. Guthormsen

August 8th, 2009, 02:39 PM	#13
Meryem Ersoz Wrangler Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Boulder, CO Posts: 3,015	well, there is always more to work on, Dale, but you have come a long way since your early entries and you should be proud of your progress. i don't know anyone who works harder....