Tales of Wonder and Woe: UWOL-Long-Form 2009

Rob Evans · August 9th, 2009, 01:02 PM

I'm actually firing on most cylinders! Overall narrative isn't quite cracked yet but some great stories and creatures coming together. When's the exact deadline again? Still got a bit of editing to do!!!

Cheers!

Steve Siegel · August 9th, 2009, 07:50 PM

Are we still required to post entries as .mov files? I am able to produce beautifully small, glitch-free files using Windows Media, but when I export files of any size into Quicktime, even using H.264 the megabytes are always in the hundreds. I just took a 30 MB Windows file of my entry and converted it to Quicktime. It became 378 MB. There has to be a better way.

Chris Swanberg · August 14th, 2009, 04:21 PM

Well, with some generous dispensation from Meryem I am in. I won't be back home to my computer to start editing until Monday, but will have SOMETHING up next week.

(Went on a boat trip up the the "Gates of the Mountains" today, with the pages from the Lewis and Clark Diaries of their journey thru there fresh in my mind. I could do a short piece on that... but of course that's not remotely my subject... and I will save that for some other time).

Chris Swanberg

Geir Inge · August 19th, 2009, 12:09 PM

OK, then.
I think I passed my medical test at school last Friday :)
So now it's full speed ahead trying to make my ULF something worth looking at.
I have a lots of tapes from different locations, and now I'm focusing on the intro story.

Just a question to you uwolers out there. To my intro I need shots of brown bear and Lynx. Is it much too wrong to use shots taken in a Zoo? I will of caurse give information about this in my film, in the end text, but there's no chance for me to get clips of wild bears or Lynx around where I live. I did visit a Zoo earlier this summer and intend to use it, so what do you think? The use of the clips will be as if the animals where in the wild and not in a Zoo.

By the way, tomorrow morning I'm off to a place where I hopefully will be able to catch some European Pine Marten (Martes martes), on tape.
If so, I'll post a picture of it in my feedback tread.
I will try to comment the rest of the films on Sunday.

Geir Inge

Per Johan Naesje · August 19th, 2009, 12:20 PM

Geir Inge,
I believe that this will be OK, as long as you mention it in your piece that this is captured species. Maybe Meryem could chime in to comment this?

Anyway, good luck in capture footage of the Pine Martens. Our paths will cross here, as I will be in the same area in about 14 days from now!

Dale Guthormsen · August 19th, 2009, 02:35 PM

Geir,

Actually, many, many wildlife and outdoors films shoot tamed, zoo or collection animals and they make no referance to them.

I do not think it really makes a difference but I personally would not make the bulk of my footage around them.

Geir Inge · August 19th, 2009, 02:52 PM

Thank you both for responding Dale and PJ.
Well I most agreed, but it isn't that I want to build a story around the bear and lynx. In my intro I will tell why I got interested in wildlife and nature. Amongst others because of a famous norwegian writer called Mikkjel Foenhus, writing novelles where the animals do have the main roll. So I will use a clip or two from a bear and a lynx when I tell about his influence on me. The main story in my ULF video is still about the wild coast of Mid West Norway.
Now it's 23 pm over here and I'm going straight to bed, up early tomorrow, around 5.30 am for my Pine Marten shots :)

Geir Inge

Meryem Ersoz · August 19th, 2009, 03:47 PM

one solution may be to borrow this footage - maybe per or kevin or one of the other players has a bear or lynx that they would lend, for a credit. it's ok with me if you have a shot or two from someone else, as long as you attribute it properly. a zoo is ok with me, too, it would not be my first choice, and there is a whole discussion about the ethics of wildlife shooting that we could engage, but I think for a placeholder, at least, this would be ok.

i am anticipating that even those of you who finish contest this will have another 2-6 months past the contest of polish work to do, anyway...when you start make longer films, you can re-work them and re-work them so many different ways.

Catherine Russell · August 19th, 2009, 04:28 PM

Hi Geir:

I certainly know that Per had the master footage of bear in his "Pond of Bears" UWOL entry. But if that footage isn't available for whatever reason, I have a young black bear in this latest entry you are welcome to. If you go to 17 min 05 sec you can see the angle and distance it was shot at and if that might work for you.

Cheers,

Cat

Geir Inge · August 20th, 2009, 04:44 PM

Thank you for responding to my question about Zoo animals.
Well, I haven't desided yet what to do.
But I might use my Lynx and Brown bear clips (just a few seconds), or perhaps I'll use my shots of the Pine Marten, from todays shooting :)

Geir Inge

Chris Swanberg · August 21st, 2009, 10:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Meryem Ersoz

i am anticipating that even those of you who finish contest this will have another 2-6 months past the contest of polish work to do, anyway...when you start make longer films, you can re-work them and re-work them so many different ways.

The more I work on this the more I realize the truth of what Meryem says. I also have learned the truth of the statement (variously and apparently always mis-attributed) that a film (or book or, use your own word here) is never finished, just abandoned.

Catherine Russell · August 23rd, 2009, 08:10 AM

Hi all:

A tale of woe! I may be the first UWOL long form casualty. Yesterday I was filming up at Andrews Glacier up in the park and sprained my ankle making my way down through the upper boulder field on the way back. Everyone was awesome, two hikers coming up helped me negotiate the boulder field and dropped me off in an alpine meadow. From there I almost made it to one of the upper lakes by the time Park rescuers intercepted me and helped to a lower place where they could pack me out on a horse! Yikes, not the most comfortable ride I've ever had however immensely grateful I was!

Woe, woe, woe! There is so much filming left to do and my husband and I had planned to hike Longs peak just this week, a very important part of my film plan.

No broken bones, just a sprain and a very bruised ego.

O.K. Nobody else top this one! Let's just keep it at one casualty in this challenge!

Cat

Bryce Comer · August 23rd, 2009, 08:41 AM

Hi Catherine,
Wow what a situation! Glad to hear you made it down ok. I hope this doesn't put your plans in jeopardy. No good that it will no doubt put your hike up Longs peak back a bit, but hopefully you will be able to get up there before the good weather breaks.
All the best, hope the ankle heals up very quickly & you're back up in the mountains very soon.
Bryce

Marj Atkins · August 23rd, 2009, 11:34 AM

Yes Cat - agree with Bryce.

Geir Inge · August 23rd, 2009, 11:47 AM

Can't help it Catherine, bruised ego or not, but I just got to throw in one of my questions:

Did you manage to catch it on tape?

A big norwegian hug to you Catherine and hope you're doing well :)

Geir Inge

August 19th, 2009, 12:09 PM	#154
Geir Inge Trustee Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Larsnes, Norway Posts: 1,342	OK, then. I think I passed my medical test at school last Friday :) So now it's full speed ahead trying to make my ULF something worth looking at. I have a lots of tapes from different locations, and now I'm focusing on the intro story. Just a question to you uwolers out there. To my intro I need shots of brown bear and Lynx. Is it much too wrong to use shots taken in a Zoo? I will of caurse give information about this in my film, in the end text, but there's no chance for me to get clips of wild bears or Lynx around where I live. I did visit a Zoo earlier this summer and intend to use it, so what do you think? The use of the clips will be as if the animals where in the wild and not in a Zoo. By the way, tomorrow morning I'm off to a place where I hopefully will be able to catch some European Pine Marten (Martes martes), on tape. If so, I'll post a picture of it in my feedback tread. I will try to comment the rest of the films on Sunday. Geir Inge __________________ Geir Inge B. Brekke Visit me at: https://vimeo.com/gibbfilm

August 19th, 2009, 12:20 PM	#155
Per Johan Naesje Trustee Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Akershus, Norway Posts: 1,413	Geir Inge, I believe that this will be OK, as long as you mention it in your piece that this is captured species. Maybe Meryem could chime in to comment this? Anyway, good luck in capture footage of the Pine Martens. Our paths will cross here, as I will be in the same area in about 14 days from now! __________________ - Per Johan

August 19th, 2009, 02:35 PM	#156
Dale Guthormsen Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Saskatchewan Posts: 3,048	Geir, Actually, many, many wildlife and outdoors films shoot tamed, zoo or collection animals and they make no referance to them. I do not think it really makes a difference but I personally would not make the bulk of my footage around them. __________________ DATS ALL FOLKS Dale W. Guthormsen

August 19th, 2009, 02:52 PM	#157
Geir Inge Trustee Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Larsnes, Norway Posts: 1,342	Thank you both for responding Dale and PJ. Well I most agreed, but it isn't that I want to build a story around the bear and lynx. In my intro I will tell why I got interested in wildlife and nature. Amongst others because of a famous norwegian writer called Mikkjel Foenhus, writing novelles where the animals do have the main roll. So I will use a clip or two from a bear and a lynx when I tell about his influence on me. The main story in my ULF video is still about the wild coast of Mid West Norway. Now it's 23 pm over here and I'm going straight to bed, up early tomorrow, around 5.30 am for my Pine Marten shots :) Geir Inge __________________ Geir Inge B. Brekke Visit me at: https://vimeo.com/gibbfilm

August 20th, 2009, 04:44 PM	#160
Geir Inge Trustee Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Larsnes, Norway Posts: 1,342	Thank you for responding to my question about Zoo animals. Well, I haven't desided yet what to do. But I might use my Lynx and Brown bear clips (just a few seconds), or perhaps I'll use my shots of the Pine Marten, from todays shooting :) Geir Inge __________________ Geir Inge B. Brekke Visit me at: https://vimeo.com/gibbfilm

August 9th, 2009, 01:02 PM	#151
Rob Evans Major Player Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Berkshire, UK Posts: 390	I'm actually firing on most cylinders! Overall narrative isn't quite cracked yet but some great stories and creatures coming together. When's the exact deadline again? Still got a bit of editing to do!!! Cheers!

August 9th, 2009, 07:50 PM	#152
Steve Siegel Major Player Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Albuquerque, New Mexico, USA Posts: 840	Are we still required to post entries as .mov files? I am able to produce beautifully small, glitch-free files using Windows Media, but when I export files of any size into Quicktime, even using H.264 the megabytes are always in the hundreds. I just took a 30 MB Windows file of my entry and converted it to Quicktime. It became 378 MB. There has to be a better way.

August 14th, 2009, 04:21 PM	#153
Chris Swanberg Major Player Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 904	Well, with some generous dispensation from Meryem I am in. I won't be back home to my computer to start editing until Monday, but will have SOMETHING up next week. (Went on a boat trip up the the "Gates of the Mountains" today, with the pages from the Lewis and Clark Diaries of their journey thru there fresh in my mind. I could do a short piece on that... but of course that's not remotely my subject... and I will save that for some other time). Chris Swanberg

August 19th, 2009, 03:47 PM	#158
Meryem Ersoz Wrangler Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Boulder, CO Posts: 3,015	one solution may be to borrow this footage - maybe per or kevin or one of the other players has a bear or lynx that they would lend, for a credit. it's ok with me if you have a shot or two from someone else, as long as you attribute it properly. a zoo is ok with me, too, it would not be my first choice, and there is a whole discussion about the ethics of wildlife shooting that we could engage, but I think for a placeholder, at least, this would be ok. i am anticipating that even those of you who finish contest this will have another 2-6 months past the contest of polish work to do, anyway...when you start make longer films, you can re-work them and re-work them so many different ways.

August 19th, 2009, 04:28 PM	#159
Catherine Russell Trustee Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Lyons, Colorado Posts: 1,224	Hi Geir: I certainly know that Per had the master footage of bear in his "Pond of Bears" UWOL entry. But if that footage isn't available for whatever reason, I have a young black bear in this latest entry you are welcome to. If you go to 17 min 05 sec you can see the angle and distance it was shot at and if that might work for you. Cheers, Cat

August 23rd, 2009, 08:10 AM	#162
Catherine Russell Trustee Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Lyons, Colorado Posts: 1,224	Hi all: A tale of woe! I may be the first UWOL long form casualty. Yesterday I was filming up at Andrews Glacier up in the park and sprained my ankle making my way down through the upper boulder field on the way back. Everyone was awesome, two hikers coming up helped me negotiate the boulder field and dropped me off in an alpine meadow. From there I almost made it to one of the upper lakes by the time Park rescuers intercepted me and helped to a lower place where they could pack me out on a horse! Yikes, not the most comfortable ride I've ever had however immensely grateful I was! Woe, woe, woe! There is so much filming left to do and my husband and I had planned to hike Longs peak just this week, a very important part of my film plan. No broken bones, just a sprain and a very bruised ego. O.K. Nobody else top this one! Let's just keep it at one casualty in this challenge! Cat

August 23rd, 2009, 08:41 AM	#163
Bryce Comer Trustee Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Rossland, British Columbia Posts: 1,024	Hi Catherine, Wow what a situation! Glad to hear you made it down ok. I hope this doesn't put your plans in jeopardy. No good that it will no doubt put your hike up Longs peak back a bit, but hopefully you will be able to get up there before the good weather breaks. All the best, hope the ankle heals up very quickly & you're back up in the mountains very soon. Bryce __________________ There's never enough hours in the day!

August 23rd, 2009, 11:34 AM	#164
Marj Atkins Major Player Join Date: May 2007 Location: Johannesburg South Africa Posts: 768	Yes Cat - agree with Bryce.

August 23rd, 2009, 11:47 AM	#165
Geir Inge Trustee Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Larsnes, Norway Posts: 1,342	Can't help it Catherine, bruised ego or not, but I just got to throw in one of my questions: Did you manage to catch it on tape? A big norwegian hug to you Catherine and hope you're doing well :) Geir Inge __________________ Geir Inge B. Brekke Visit me at: https://vimeo.com/gibbfilm