UWOL #7 ”A dark side” by Markus Nord at DVinfo.net

Markus Nord · February 22nd, 2008, 04:00 PM

Hello UWOL team…

film title: A dark side (24_UC7_adarkside.mov)

My film for the Adventure theme is a cave diving film. I met up with Nicklas Myrin, a cavediver and head of the dive section in the Swedish Speleological society. He is a good friend of me. We drove to a bedrock ridge south of Stockholm (capital of Sweden), that cracked opened a couple of years ago (pre ice age). This area is a maze of cave where boulders have fallen down in the cracks. Some of the cracks are so deep (approx 10 meters) that ground water has pressed up and flooded them.

For this film I reused my webTV idea, ‘cause the theme fitted so good for a webTV. The equipment I used was my XL2 and the wide angle lens (UW and OL) and one of my video lights (the other one broke before entering the water). For “second unit” I used my old TRV-950 for two shots (when my XL2 was in the housing). I hade only one attempt for the UW shots, ‘cause the visibility is gone as soon as you stop or swim. This is the hardest place I have ever film in, it’s tight, no room for error and really hard for lighting (big risk for backscatter). I hope the shot are good enough…

Later this year we (10 people) are heading up north in Sweden to a cave system the have not been explored yet… this film was a test for me to check how to operate my camera in this conditions.

I would like to thank Spheric Lounge for the music.

Meryem Ersoz · February 24th, 2008, 01:13 PM

a most interesting adventure, indeed. pretty creepy stuff. i don't know that i'd follow you on this one! still, it's cool that you bring us to these remote corners of the world, markus....

i think we gave you the feedback that we'd like to know more about the gear, now i have to take it back! the explanation of the gear seemed like it took too long, like your friend could have said the same thing in a shorter time, because it did not leave enough time in the creepy cave!

but hey, then again, i'm not making films in my 2nd language either, and i think that is probably why the explanation ended up a bit lengthy and threw the pacing of the whole, off a bit.

great subject, but the pacing probably needs massaged. squeezing the adventure of a lifetime, in a remote location, into 3 minutes is definitely a challenge...i just wanted more cave time, this round...i know, i'm fickle.

Kevin Railsback · February 24th, 2008, 03:42 PM

Whoa, that was scary, erie and wonderful all at the same time!

You know the explanation may have ate up a bit more of the three minutes than it should but I think explaining it was important to explain how the gear was specialized for these types of dives. Your format was that of a web TV show so I thought that was appropriate.

The music was totally appropriate for this piece.

In this small format, I kind of lost you in the establishing shot with the green sweatshirt against the green foliage. Red would have really made you stand out there.

Very cool film!

Catherine Russell · February 24th, 2008, 05:15 PM

Amazing footage, Marcus....

I think I would have been one of those who find themselves panicking as the last thing they did in a place like that. I can't imagine how difficult that filming actually was, with such low visibility and in such cramped dangerous conditions. Well done. I found myself wanting the entire 3 minutes dedicated to the actual cave action and forgoing the rest.

Impressive!

Cat

Bob Thieda · February 24th, 2008, 05:17 PM

You sir are a brave man.....I don't even like dry caves....

Per Johan Naesje · February 24th, 2008, 05:20 PM

Interesting piece Markus, second what Meryem and Kevin says about the introduction lenght, but I think it's wise of you to warn about the danger this type of diving can be!
I'm not a diver myself, so for me this kind of thing will only be a dream. But you are very clever to tell about how it is to be into that cave. To me this was very nice and your filming which I think is very technical difficult to archieve, you did very well.

Markus Nord · February 25th, 2008, 06:49 AM

Thank you all for viewing

Meryem – I agree with you about the intro time, as you mention about the explanation about the gear is a bit too long, but you answer you question – 2nd language…
I could probably have cut in his explanation but I wanted to use it al. too bad that I didn’t have more time for the cave.

Kevin – Thanks for you words. As you write, I think that the time (but it could be better) of explanation ok, because of the important information. I didn’t think of the green shirt during that time, but I agree with you about that I’m nearly disappearing in to the green background.

Cat – It is really important to just stay calm, but this kind of adventure is not for everyone. I would have like to get 30 extra seconds just to expand the cave part. The biggest problem was that I have only visit this cave one time before, and during that time the visibility was so poor that I didn’t get a good feeling how the cave looked like. So during this filming I “explored” the cave at the same time as I tried to film it.

Bob – Well, I don’t know about brave, curious my be a better word :)

Per Johan – I thought that it was important to just make that statement so people to go out and caving without proper equipment. This was a good experience for me, before I just got experience from flooded mines that we explore, but this gave me a better idea how it will be during our expedition in north of Sweden next month.

Cheers
Markus

Vidar Vedaa · February 25th, 2008, 09:14 AM

Hi Markus

A realy facinating film,but I cant understend how you awoid
to not get claus in this cave.You shud have been her on the West-Coast
I now about an old 1700 Silver mine resting allone full of wahter.

Good -Jobb

VJV.

_____________________

Markus Nord · February 25th, 2008, 09:26 AM

Vidar - I send you a mail about the silver mine. The cave is big enough for me to get thro the restrictions, and I'm not a small guy... :) that way I got a big camera, if the camera doesn’t get thro, I don't ether.

Chris Barcellos · February 25th, 2008, 11:06 AM

Markus:

Okay, you managed to wrap up most of my phobias into one film. The only thing you needed to add was a thousand foot shear rock wall climb to get to the cave. You are truly an adventurous man. Nice job.

Since you were into explaining gear, would like to have seen some of your actual underwater film gear, too.

Markus Nord · February 25th, 2008, 11:14 AM

Chris - We shall se what theme Meryem comes up with; maybe something I can incorporate some more equipment. Even if the film was a bit “phobic” for you, I hope you enjoyed it.

Adrinn Chellton · February 25th, 2008, 11:34 AM

I enjoyed the film, I too wanted to see more cave. I agree 3 minutes just isn't enough time when you have such a fascinating subject. It was interesting to hear how the tanks need to be setup on the side rather than on your back.

Good work, I look forward to your next entry.

Mat Thompson · February 25th, 2008, 11:40 AM

Markus....you're crazy :-) ! I've dived once in near zero viz and I have to say as you said in your film you really have to keep your head. That was in open water so to be also enclosed by rock....well, certainly an adventure to say the least. I really liked your format again and your UW shots were creepy but exciting. I think the intro interview went on a bit long and could have used breaking up in some way with cut aways of gear details or facial close ups. I'd have also liked a bit more UW footage but I think what you had was great for the condition your working in. You certainly pick difficult working environment fella.

Nice piece!

What depth/ dive time did you get ?

Trond Saetre · February 25th, 2008, 12:05 PM

Hei Markus,

You made a good story here, and I loved the underwater shots.
As others have commented, I would like to see more of that, and just had a short intro.
But all in all, a nice film I enjoyed to watch.
The web-tv is a cool theme.

Dale Guthormsen · February 25th, 2008, 12:20 PM

Markus,

first, you do not dissappoint!!!

I would definitely be out of my element down there!!! to spooky for me. Heck I would likly get lost and never find my way out!!

spelunking in dry caves is wild enough!!

Definitely qualifies as high adventure!!!

Like several this round, I want to see the half hour version!!!

February 22nd, 2008, 04:00 PM	#1
Markus Nord Major Player Join Date: May 2007 Location: Vastervik ,Sweden Posts: 639	UWOL #7 ”A dark side” by Markus Nord Hello UWOL team… film title: A dark side (24_UC7_adarkside.mov) My film for the Adventure theme is a cave diving film. I met up with Nicklas Myrin, a cavediver and head of the dive section in the Swedish Speleological society. He is a good friend of me. We drove to a bedrock ridge south of Stockholm (capital of Sweden), that cracked opened a couple of years ago (pre ice age). This area is a maze of cave where boulders have fallen down in the cracks. Some of the cracks are so deep (approx 10 meters) that ground water has pressed up and flooded them. For this film I reused my webTV idea, ‘cause the theme fitted so good for a webTV. The equipment I used was my XL2 and the wide angle lens (UW and OL) and one of my video lights (the other one broke before entering the water). For “second unit” I used my old TRV-950 for two shots (when my XL2 was in the housing). I hade only one attempt for the UW shots, ‘cause the visibility is gone as soon as you stop or swim. This is the hardest place I have ever film in, it’s tight, no room for error and really hard for lighting (big risk for backscatter). I hope the shot are good enough… Later this year we (10 people) are heading up north in Sweden to a cave system the have not been explored yet… this film was a test for me to check how to operate my camera in this conditions. I would like to thank Spheric Lounge for the music. __________________ www.nordproduktion.se https://vimeo.com/nordproduktion

February 24th, 2008, 03:42 PM	#3
Kevin Railsback Trustee Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Cedar Rapids, Iowa Posts: 1,544	Whoa, that was scary, erie and wonderful all at the same time! You know the explanation may have ate up a bit more of the three minutes than it should but I think explaining it was important to explain how the gear was specialized for these types of dives. Your format was that of a web TV show so I thought that was appropriate. The music was totally appropriate for this piece. In this small format, I kind of lost you in the establishing shot with the green sweatshirt against the green foliage. Red would have really made you stand out there. Very cool film! __________________ --==Kevin==-- http:naturephotostudios.com.com

February 24th, 2008, 05:17 PM	#5
Bob Thieda Major Player Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Carol Stream, IL Posts: 541	You sir are a brave man.....I don't even like dry caves.... __________________ Bob T.

February 24th, 2008, 05:20 PM	#6
Per Johan Naesje Trustee Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Akershus, Norway Posts: 1,413	Interesting piece Markus, second what Meryem and Kevin says about the introduction lenght, but I think it's wise of you to warn about the danger this type of diving can be! I'm not a diver myself, so for me this kind of thing will only be a dream. But you are very clever to tell about how it is to be into that cave. To me this was very nice and your filming which I think is very technical difficult to archieve, you did very well. __________________ - Per Johan

February 25th, 2008, 09:26 AM	#9
Markus Nord Major Player Join Date: May 2007 Location: Vastervik ,Sweden Posts: 639	Vidar - I send you a mail about the silver mine. The cave is big enough for me to get thro the restrictions, and I'm not a small guy... :) that way I got a big camera, if the camera doesn’t get thro, I don't ether. __________________ www.nordproduktion.se https://vimeo.com/nordproduktion

February 24th, 2008, 01:13 PM	#2
Meryem Ersoz Wrangler Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Boulder, CO Posts: 3,015	a most interesting adventure, indeed. pretty creepy stuff. i don't know that i'd follow you on this one! still, it's cool that you bring us to these remote corners of the world, markus.... i think we gave you the feedback that we'd like to know more about the gear, now i have to take it back! the explanation of the gear seemed like it took too long, like your friend could have said the same thing in a shorter time, because it did not leave enough time in the creepy cave! but hey, then again, i'm not making films in my 2nd language either, and i think that is probably why the explanation ended up a bit lengthy and threw the pacing of the whole, off a bit. great subject, but the pacing probably needs massaged. squeezing the adventure of a lifetime, in a remote location, into 3 minutes is definitely a challenge...i just wanted more cave time, this round...i know, i'm fickle.

February 24th, 2008, 05:15 PM	#4
Catherine Russell Trustee Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Lyons, Colorado Posts: 1,224	Amazing footage, Marcus.... I think I would have been one of those who find themselves panicking as the last thing they did in a place like that. I can't imagine how difficult that filming actually was, with such low visibility and in such cramped dangerous conditions. Well done. I found myself wanting the entire 3 minutes dedicated to the actual cave action and forgoing the rest. Impressive! Cat

February 25th, 2008, 06:49 AM	#7
Markus Nord Major Player Join Date: May 2007 Location: Vastervik ,Sweden Posts: 639	Thank you all for viewing Meryem – I agree with you about the intro time, as you mention about the explanation about the gear is a bit too long, but you answer you question – 2nd language… I could probably have cut in his explanation but I wanted to use it al. too bad that I didn’t have more time for the cave. Kevin – Thanks for you words. As you write, I think that the time (but it could be better) of explanation ok, because of the important information. I didn’t think of the green shirt during that time, but I agree with you about that I’m nearly disappearing in to the green background. Cat – It is really important to just stay calm, but this kind of adventure is not for everyone. I would have like to get 30 extra seconds just to expand the cave part. The biggest problem was that I have only visit this cave one time before, and during that time the visibility was so poor that I didn’t get a good feeling how the cave looked like. So during this filming I “explored” the cave at the same time as I tried to film it. Bob – Well, I don’t know about brave, curious my be a better word :) Per Johan – I thought that it was important to just make that statement so people to go out and caving without proper equipment. This was a good experience for me, before I just got experience from flooded mines that we explore, but this gave me a better idea how it will be during our expedition in north of Sweden next month. Cheers Markus __________________ www.nordproduktion.se https://vimeo.com/nordproduktion

February 25th, 2008, 09:14 AM	#8
Vidar Vedaa Major Player Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: bergen norway Posts: 235	Hi Markus A realy facinating film,but I cant understend how you awoid to not get claus in this cave.You shud have been her on the West-Coast I now about an old 1700 Silver mine resting allone full of wahter. Good -Jobb VJV. _____________________

February 25th, 2008, 11:06 AM	#10
Chris Barcellos Inner Circle Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Elk Grove CA Posts: 6,838	Markus: Okay, you managed to wrap up most of my phobias into one film. The only thing you needed to add was a thousand foot shear rock wall climb to get to the cave. You are truly an adventurous man. Nice job. Since you were into explaining gear, would like to have seen some of your actual underwater film gear, too. __________________ Chris J. Barcellos

February 25th, 2008, 11:14 AM	#11
Markus Nord Major Player Join Date: May 2007 Location: Vastervik ,Sweden Posts: 639	Chris - We shall se what theme Meryem comes up with; maybe something I can incorporate some more equipment. Even if the film was a bit “phobic” for you, I hope you enjoyed it. __________________ www.nordproduktion.se https://vimeo.com/nordproduktion

February 25th, 2008, 11:34 AM	#12
Adrinn Chellton Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Carlsbad, CA Posts: 195	I enjoyed the film, I too wanted to see more cave. I agree 3 minutes just isn't enough time when you have such a fascinating subject. It was interesting to hear how the tanks need to be setup on the side rather than on your back. Good work, I look forward to your next entry.

February 25th, 2008, 11:40 AM	#13
Mat Thompson Trustee Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Kent UK Posts: 1,397	Markus....you're crazy :-) ! I've dived once in near zero viz and I have to say as you said in your film you really have to keep your head. That was in open water so to be also enclosed by rock....well, certainly an adventure to say the least. I really liked your format again and your UW shots were creepy but exciting. I think the intro interview went on a bit long and could have used breaking up in some way with cut aways of gear details or facial close ups. I'd have also liked a bit more UW footage but I think what you had was great for the condition your working in. You certainly pick difficult working environment fella. Nice piece! What depth/ dive time did you get ?

February 25th, 2008, 12:05 PM	#14
Trond Saetre Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Bergen, Norway Posts: 3,375	Hei Markus, You made a good story here, and I loved the underwater shots. As others have commented, I would like to see more of that, and just had a short intro. But all in all, a nice film I enjoyed to watch. The web-tv is a cool theme.

February 25th, 2008, 12:20 PM	#15
Dale Guthormsen Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Saskatchewan Posts: 3,048	Markus, first, you do not dissappoint!!! I would definitely be out of my element down there!!! to spooky for me. Heck I would likly get lost and never find my way out!! spelunking in dry caves is wild enough!! Definitely qualifies as high adventure!!! Like several this round, I want to see the half hour version!!! __________________ DATS ALL FOLKS Dale W. Guthormsen