Bird footage

Jacques Mersereau · June 15th, 2006, 07:16 AM

Beautiful footage Per. I especially like the Greb behaviors you captured.

Dale Guthormsen · June 15th, 2006, 07:20 PM

Per johan,

I shoot in cine as well, I will try the same using defaults. I tend to saturate colors so they look better on the larger screens, eg. 50 inch.
We are trying to get some footage of pronghorn antelope and kids as well as deer with fawns. If I get some I will try to find a means to post them.

dale

Don DesJardin · June 16th, 2006, 06:09 PM

I'm in the same boat as Dale, and probably others, when it comes to sharing short nature video clips on the Internet. I have a web site, but the guy who built it for me in no longer around, so until I can arrange to have it worked on to incorporate a selection sample clips for downloading, I'm dead in the water. I'm happy to stand behind the camera, and leave web design to someone else. I looked into all the video hosting and sharing site, but they are to cluttered with junk. I wish there was just a site that just dealt with quality nature themes. As an XL1 user, hopefully for not that much longer, I learn nearly everyday from others, and I would like to think that others might learn something that I might be able to offer.

Brendan Marnell · June 17th, 2006, 03:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Don DesJardin

I looked into all the video hosting and sharing site, but they are to cluttered with junk. I wish there was just a site that just dealt with quality nature themes. .

You're spot on, Don. And commerce is not to blame for all the clutter all the time. Even BBC has lost control of the sound and video dubbing mafia listed on its documentaries. But the blame game is not the answer; it just pretends to be an excuse for doing nothing ...

How can we inspire The Kennelmaster Himself to set up a function on DVInfo website for the purpose of publishing clips of nature video from members? Along what lines? How to keep out the clutter and the trash? What standards to apply? Well until we can all attain Per Johan's private answer, there are some ideas to be gathered from this website that publishes clips of Birds; not top-slick to be sure but it gets there, uncluttered and free, with audience participation ... I'm hoping to join the list there sometime ..

http://ibc.hbw.com/ibc/phtml/whatIBC.phtml

Speak to us, O Wise One

Per Johan Naesje · June 20th, 2006, 12:43 PM

Brendan, I think this is a very good idea. I would like a forum for publishing small clips of wildelife footage.
The XLH1 forum got a site for their footage, so why not one for us too?

This way we could review each others footage, give feedback and ideas, leading to each of us become better wildlife videophotographers.

Meryem Ersoz · June 20th, 2006, 04:37 PM

we actually have a "footage links" link here in the wildlife forum, but it needs to be turned into a sticky, so that it doesn't get shoved to the bottom of the pile so quickly. i would like to see it renamed "wildlife footage links" and then kept at the top of the page, so that we could have all that juicy footage available in one place. and then more people might be encouraged to post there. hellooooooo, chris! can you tear yourself away from the XL H1 viewfinder long enough to indulge us??? (okay, so i'm jealous. i too would like to have an eyeball glued to the H1 viewfinder....)

http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=56456

Brendan Marnell · June 20th, 2006, 05:38 PM

That's great news Meryem.

Let it be, let it be. Just one more set of linking tricks to learn, but this time the light at the end of the tunnel is a raptor with a glint in his eye, like your sparrowhawk.

Somehow I must persuade my vultures that gliding on 9ft wingspan is not enough anymore, they'll have to learn to smile ...

Dale Guthormsen · June 22nd, 2006, 10:59 PM

After seeing johan pers footage I have decided to buy a non lens adapter and a 300 mm canon fd lens. This wont break the bank and i thought I could try this stuff on before breaking the bank for high end stuff only to find out I may not like it.

first thought, when you have the manual on there do you open up the setting on the camera, adjust the lens aperature and then set shutter to get proper exposure??

Per Johan Naesje · June 25th, 2006, 02:19 AM

Dale,
you have to experiment a lot with your lense. I found that many lenses are sharpest in the middle of the aperture field, say 5.6 to 11 (safe area). I would not recommend to go higher than 11 on most lenses.

In overcast weather I set the shutter at 1/50 (1/60 NTSC) and adjust the aperture within the safe area. This gives me a proper exposure almost every time. Remember that I use a polarization filter even in overcast weather, but if its poor light you might have to shoot without the filter.

On sunny days it's much more easy to achieve nice and rich color in the footage. Shooting at dawn and dusk gives you the best light (and results). In such conditions I set the shutter to 1/100 (1/120 NTSC) and do the same adjustment as explained above. In very light area like at the beach or in snow, you should also consider to use ND-filters.

Shooting white objects, say gulls or swans, you have to in most instance, underexpose. You must experiment with different settings to become known with your camcorder and lense. Practise, practise, practise is the keyword.

June 15th, 2006, 07:16 AM	#16
Jacques Mersereau Trustee Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 1,334	Beautiful footage Per. I especially like the Greb behaviors you captured. __________________ Jacques Mersereau University of Michigan-Video Studio Manager

June 15th, 2006, 07:20 PM	#17
Dale Guthormsen Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Saskatchewan Posts: 3,048	Per johan, I shoot in cine as well, I will try the same using defaults. I tend to saturate colors so they look better on the larger screens, eg. 50 inch. We are trying to get some footage of pronghorn antelope and kids as well as deer with fawns. If I get some I will try to find a means to post them. dale __________________ DATS ALL FOLKS Dale W. Guthormsen

June 16th, 2006, 06:09 PM	#18
Don DesJardin Major Player Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Ventura, California, USA Posts: 255	I'm in the same boat as Dale, and probably others, when it comes to sharing short nature video clips on the Internet. I have a web site, but the guy who built it for me in no longer around, so until I can arrange to have it worked on to incorporate a selection sample clips for downloading, I'm dead in the water. I'm happy to stand behind the camera, and leave web design to someone else. I looked into all the video hosting and sharing site, but they are to cluttered with junk. I wish there was just a site that just dealt with quality nature themes. As an XL1 user, hopefully for not that much longer, I learn nearly everyday from others, and I would like to think that others might learn something that I might be able to offer. __________________ Don DesJardin

June 20th, 2006, 12:43 PM	#20
Per Johan Naesje Trustee Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Akershus, Norway Posts: 1,413	Brendan, I think this is a very good idea. I would like a forum for publishing small clips of wildelife footage. The XLH1 forum got a site for their footage, so why not one for us too? This way we could review each others footage, give feedback and ideas, leading to each of us become better wildlife videophotographers. __________________ - Per Johan

June 22nd, 2006, 10:59 PM	#23
Dale Guthormsen Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Saskatchewan Posts: 3,048	manual lenses After seeing johan pers footage I have decided to buy a non lens adapter and a 300 mm canon fd lens. This wont break the bank and i thought I could try this stuff on before breaking the bank for high end stuff only to find out I may not like it. first thought, when you have the manual on there do you open up the setting on the camera, adjust the lens aperature and then set shutter to get proper exposure?? __________________ DATS ALL FOLKS Dale W. Guthormsen

June 20th, 2006, 04:37 PM	#21
Meryem Ersoz Wrangler Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Boulder, CO Posts: 3,015	we actually have a "footage links" link here in the wildlife forum, but it needs to be turned into a sticky, so that it doesn't get shoved to the bottom of the pile so quickly. i would like to see it renamed "wildlife footage links" and then kept at the top of the page, so that we could have all that juicy footage available in one place. and then more people might be encouraged to post there. hellooooooo, chris! can you tear yourself away from the XL H1 viewfinder long enough to indulge us??? (okay, so i'm jealous. i too would like to have an eyeball glued to the H1 viewfinder....) http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=56456

June 20th, 2006, 05:38 PM	#22
Brendan Marnell Major Player Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Dublin, Ireland Posts: 938	That's great news Meryem. Let it be, let it be. Just one more set of linking tricks to learn, but this time the light at the end of the tunnel is a raptor with a glint in his eye, like your sparrowhawk. Somehow I must persuade my vultures that gliding on 9ft wingspan is not enough anymore, they'll have to learn to smile ...

June 25th, 2006, 02:19 AM	#24
Per Johan Naesje Trustee Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Akershus, Norway Posts: 1,413	Dale, you have to experiment a lot with your lense. I found that many lenses are sharpest in the middle of the aperture field, say 5.6 to 11 (safe area). I would not recommend to go higher than 11 on most lenses. In overcast weather I set the shutter at 1/50 (1/60 NTSC) and adjust the aperture within the safe area. This gives me a proper exposure almost every time. Remember that I use a polarization filter even in overcast weather, but if its poor light you might have to shoot without the filter. On sunny days it's much more easy to achieve nice and rich color in the footage. Shooting at dawn and dusk gives you the best light (and results). In such conditions I set the shutter to 1/100 (1/120 NTSC) and do the same adjustment as explained above. In very light area like at the beach or in snow, you should also consider to use ND-filters. Shooting white objects, say gulls or swans, you have to in most instance, underexpose. You must experiment with different settings to become known with your camcorder and lense. Practise, practise, practise is the keyword. __________________ - Per Johan Last edited by Per Johan Naesje; June 26th, 2006 at 02:10 AM.