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November 16th, 2009, 03:27 AM
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It'll work by setting the camera to 1080/30 or 720/60 and extracting the neccessary frames.
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November 17th, 2009, 08:33 AM
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Good Morning,
I was wondering why any of the semi reasonable priced cameras only overcrank in 720 P. I looked seriosly at the ex 3 but did not buy it and one of the reasons was this issue. If you are going to overcrank wouldn't you want 1080 P so it matches the rest of ones footage?
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November 17th, 2009, 09:38 AM
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To overcrank at 1080P requires much more processing power and that's why it's only available in SERIOUS cameras - ie Sony F23 and the like. The new Sony SRW9000 will do it with optional boards but you'd be looking at aroun £100k. Don't be surprised that the EX3 can't do it!
Also remember Planet Earth was largely Varicam - a 720 camera that's not even got as much resolution as the EX3 in 720 as the Panny's DVCPro is pixel shifted from 960x720 upto 1280x720. Looked pretty good to me! Steve |
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November 19th, 2009, 06:37 AM
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Total agree with what Steve has said about the overcranking.
What makes using the nanoFLASH with the overcranking (firmware update due in January for this feature) is the ability to record at a higher bit rate and colour space. i.e. instead of 35Mbps at 4:2:0, you can record at 100Mbps at 4:2:2. The benefit is that the higher bit rate will hold much better in post. |
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November 30th, 2009, 11:56 AM
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Good Morning,
I guess 720 P is what it is going to be. Is the nano flash available to other cameras beside the ex3?
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November 30th, 2009, 12:42 PM
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NanoFlash is not doing over/undercranking yet. Perhaps in the Dec '09 firmware update. It currently does support time lapse.
Twixtor, IMHO, remains the best plug-in for slow/fast motion. Expect some long render times, regardless of Windows or Mac platforms. In order to achieve that 4:2:2/50 Mbps long-GOP requirement, your best bet for EX-3 would be output to Nano and do time remapping through Twixtor. Ned Soltz |
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November 30th, 2009, 01:56 PM
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Don't agree with you there Ned. Best way at present is to set to 720/60P and conform to 25P in Cinema Tools. Gives perfect slomo, just as it would with overcranking enabled in the Nano (ie each frame is full and complete). There are 3 benefits to having it done "in Nano"; 1 you can choose exactly what frame rate you want (ie 12, 29, 43 etc.); 2 you don;'t have to do the Conform step (even though this is almost instantaneous as no re-coding involved); and 3 that you'll be able to play it back slomo right off to see what effect you're getting.
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Quote:
Sony PMW-EX1 PMW-EX1R PMW-EX3 PMW-EX350 F900 XDCAM HD HVR-S270 HVR-Z5 HVR-Z7 Canon XL-H1 XL-H1a XL-H1s G1 HV20 HV30 HV40 HFs10 HFs11 Iconix HD RH1 Hitachi HV-HD30 DK-H32 Ikegami HDL-2 JVC GY-HD250 GY-HD251 GY-HM100 GY-M700 Panasonic HPX170 HPX500 HPX-900 HPX-300 GP-US932 Toshiba IK-HD1 IK-HR1D IK-HR1H IK-HR1S Others Thomson Viper Vision Research Phantom Cameras (HD-SDI output) Wige Cumina Camera Easy Look Systems Cameras Quote:
I believe in the future 1080p overcranking with be available on cameras such as the EX-?’s, but when that happens I don’t know. Maybe five, ten, fifteen years time! |
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