Tripod suggestions for Canon XH A1

Rick Oconnor · January 9th, 2008, 11:35 AM

The 501 Bogen head/manfrotto setup looks slick. It pretty light?

Kellen Dengler · January 9th, 2008, 11:38 AM

Yeah it's not bad. The specs on it on the B&H page says 12.5 lbs. The case has a shoulder strap and a handle so it's easy to cary either way and is really padded. I really like it.

Ger Griffin · January 9th, 2008, 11:45 AM

I use a 501 head on
on these 055 legs
http://www.manfrotto.com/Jahia/site/manfrotto/pid/14795
Its a stills tripod
but IMO better than any video tripod at that price.
Legs are free folding out to a certain point which makes
levelling a sinch. just pull in whichever leg to where you need it
to level the shot.
They are not linked by a spreader so it makes this possible.

Also leave just one leg down for a good monopod with a good head on it.

Benjamin Hill · January 9th, 2008, 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rick Oconnor

Anyone have any recommendations as far as a tripod goes?

Thanks!
-Rick

We have very nice Vinten Vision systems at our production group, but more often than not I use a $60 Velbon VideoMate. Laugh if you want to, but I do so much run-n-gun, one-man-band shooting that I don't want to carry all that heavy gear. For lock down interviews and simple camera movements, and when I'm in a tight space, the thing has been a life saver. Sure it won't impress anyone, and people make wisecracks, but if I use it skillfully it can do the job- and I can travel that much lighter.

Bill Heslip · January 14th, 2008, 10:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Benjamin Hill

We have very nice Vinten Vision systems at our production group, but more often than not I use a $60 Velbon VideoMate. Laugh if you want to, but I do so much run-n-gun, one-man-band shooting that I don't want to carry all that heavy gear. For lock down interviews and simple camera movements, and when I'm in a tight space, the thing has been a life saver. Sure it won't impress anyone, and people make wisecracks, but if I use it skillfully it can do the job- and I can travel that much lighter.

I hear ya, Benjamin. I've used this same tripod going on 12 years, and with the exception of several pieces of broken plastic, thanks to Super glue, it still works. Of course, I have a real tripod I use in situations where more precision is required, but for many shoots, the VideoMate is perfect. Can't weigh more than 5 lbs. (And I know what you mean about the snickering.)

Mark Rook · March 8th, 2008, 08:28 AM

Can anyone recommend a good tripod with a fluid head that will suit a Canon XHA1. This will mainly be used for shooting at air shows, so full zoom will be used often, so the steadier the better.

Many thanks,

Mark

Martin Mayer · March 8th, 2008, 12:02 PM

Investigate the Vinten Vision 3.

Diogo Athouguia · March 8th, 2008, 02:18 PM

I know both the Cartoni Focus and the Vinten Vision 3, the Vinten has better built quality but reaquires a spring exchange for different weights while the Focus has a progressive counter balance regulation. Both are very good heads, I can't say I prefer working whith one or another. However, I would prefer another release system on the Cartoni and not so many plastic parts.

I have a Focus for my HD200, and I'm very satisfied. If you can afford also consider the Vision 6 (the same as the vision 3 but with counter balance regulation) and the Sachtler DV8.

Julian Frost · May 1st, 2008, 01:53 PM

Ok.... I worked some overtime to help a buddy out, and have some cash to burn! Instead of paying down the mortgage, or making an extra car payment, I want to blow it on upgrading my tripod!

I've had my eyes set on a Libec LS-38M(2A), which seems to get great reviews and can be bought for a little under $600 from one of the sponsors here at DVi.

I have about $700 to spend, and am now wondering if there another system which would be even better for me and my Canon XH-A1?

Jack Walker · May 1st, 2008, 08:20 PM

I haven't read anything here about any tripod for $700 that would be better than the LS-38.

At the next level, among the usual suspects are:
Cartoni Focus plus legs
Gitzo 1380 head + legs
Sacthler FSB-6 + legs
Miller Solo
Vinten (not the one that is the same as Bogen)

...and all of these come in between $1300 and $1700 (or more?) I believe.

However, many there is something I'm missing.

Nick Gordon · May 6th, 2008, 02:48 AM

All I can say is that I'm delighted with my LS38 - it works perfectly for me and I can't seethat anything else in the price range could be noticeably better.

Andrew Rowe · May 11th, 2008, 09:51 AM

The LS38 is intended for cameras from 5-8kg, according to Libec's website. (Actually there are two different sets of figures on the same page, the other stating 4kg). I was intending to buy one for my XH-A1, but my set-up, which realistically isn't going to grow very much, is under 2.5kg.

Am I right in thinking, therefore, that the LS38 isn't the best companion for a plain and simple A1 (with just battery, filter(s), gun mic and radio rx) as it would offer too much resistance? Wouldn't an LS22 or TH950 be better suited - regardless of budget - as these are designed for lighter weight camera systems?

Mike Beckett · May 11th, 2008, 10:11 AM

If your camera isn't "pimped up" with extras (Matte Box, mics, big batteries etc.) then you will struggle with tilts on the LS-38. I made that mistake, and it was reasonably expensive. Panning is fine, but tilting isn't much fun.

The LS-22 head is 'OK'. Not brilliant. I find it very hard to use it at any level of zoom, there's no adjustable tilt or pan friction and, to be honest, the fluid system isn't brilliant. But at that price point, you probably can't do better.

The legs on the 950DV are rubbish. I tried it with my Sony V1E (similar in weight to your Canon) and it wouldn't hold up. Nearly collapsed a few times when i tried to do a tilt or pan. The legs on the LS-22 are a bit more robust.

I took the LS-22 head from the 950DV (both models have the same head - the 950 even has "LS-22" inside the tripod plate!) and put it on the single stage legs that come with the LS-37 - these are the same as the LS22 legs. It wasn't bad, it was a bit more solid, but the limitations of the head were still there.

If I had the money, I'd be going for either a Vinten Vision 3 or a Sachtler 6, but that's anywhere from £1000-£1500 depending on model. These are perfectly suited to smaller cams, just very pricey!

Nick Gordon · May 12th, 2008, 04:05 AM

Hmm...

I use my LS-38 with a a pretty bare XH-A1 and I find tilting to be OK. It might well be that I'm not being very critical - I'm a hobbyist, not a pro, and it might well be that if I was working fast under pressure to get the shot right first time every time I'd be less happy.

I knew about the weight range before I bought, but I decided that more solid was better than less solid, and I seem to be able to use the slider on the head to find a good balance position for the camera.

I guess I also worked on the basis that I wouldn't be getting perfection at this price, and the balance of compromises works for me.

Shaun Williams · May 12th, 2008, 03:13 PM

Hi,

Long-time reader, but not much of a poster. Finally got my hands on a XH A1 and now, like us all, I'm eyeing all the goodies that I can spend my cash on to complete the "basic" kit.

First on the list, a decent tripod and fluid head. I'm in the UK and am looking in the £500-£700 range for a solid set of legs and a decent head that can grow with my kit. I'd quite like to add the Letus (or similar) at some point so the weight the sticks can carry is important so I dont have to re-purchase later down the line. I was, of course, wondering if anyone had any recommendations. I'd love the vinten, but, as already mentioned, budget must be a consideration, or I'll be hearing from the divorce lawyers :o)

Thank you in advance.
Shaun

March 8th, 2008, 08:28 AM	#141
Mark Rook Regular Crew Join Date: May 2007 Location: Aberystwyth, Wales, UK Posts: 91	Need a good tripod for Canon XHA1 Can anyone recommend a good tripod with a fluid head that will suit a Canon XHA1. This will mainly be used for shooting at air shows, so full zoom will be used often, so the steadier the better. Many thanks, Mark

March 8th, 2008, 12:02 PM	#142
Martin Mayer Major Player Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Oxfordshire, UK Posts: 416	Investigate the Vinten Vision 3. __________________ Martin at HeadSpin HD on Blu-ray

May 1st, 2008, 01:53 PM	#144
Julian Frost Major Player Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: California USA Posts: 576	Anything better than the LS-38M(2A) in $700 Range for XH-A1? Ok.... I worked some overtime to help a buddy out, and have some cash to burn! Instead of paying down the mortgage, or making an extra car payment, I want to blow it on upgrading my tripod! I've had my eyes set on a Libec LS-38M(2A), which seems to get great reviews and can be bought for a little under $600 from one of the sponsors here at DVi. I have about $700 to spend, and am now wondering if there another system which would be even better for me and my Canon XH-A1?

May 11th, 2008, 09:51 AM	#147
Andrew Rowe Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: London, UK Posts: 39	LS38 for 5kg< setups only? The LS38 is intended for cameras from 5-8kg, according to Libec's website. (Actually there are two different sets of figures on the same page, the other stating 4kg). I was intending to buy one for my XH-A1, but my set-up, which realistically isn't going to grow very much, is under 2.5kg. Am I right in thinking, therefore, that the LS38 isn't the best companion for a plain and simple A1 (with just battery, filter(s), gun mic and radio rx) as it would offer too much resistance? Wouldn't an LS22 or TH950 be better suited - regardless of budget - as these are designed for lighter weight camera systems?

May 11th, 2008, 10:11 AM	#148
Mike Beckett Trustee Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Antrim, Northern Ireland Posts: 1,569	If your camera isn't "pimped up" with extras (Matte Box, mics, big batteries etc.) then you will struggle with tilts on the LS-38. I made that mistake, and it was reasonably expensive. Panning is fine, but tilting isn't much fun. The LS-22 head is 'OK'. Not brilliant. I find it very hard to use it at any level of zoom, there's no adjustable tilt or pan friction and, to be honest, the fluid system isn't brilliant. But at that price point, you probably can't do better. The legs on the 950DV are rubbish. I tried it with my Sony V1E (similar in weight to your Canon) and it wouldn't hold up. Nearly collapsed a few times when i tried to do a tilt or pan. The legs on the LS-22 are a bit more robust. I took the LS-22 head from the 950DV (both models have the same head - the 950 even has "LS-22" inside the tripod plate!) and put it on the single stage legs that come with the LS-37 - these are the same as the LS22 legs. It wasn't bad, it was a bit more solid, but the limitations of the head were still there. If I had the money, I'd be going for either a Vinten Vision 3 or a Sachtler 6, but that's anywhere from £1000-£1500 depending on model. These are perfectly suited to smaller cams, just very pricey! __________________ Irish Railway Videos on Youtube Last edited by Mike Beckett; May 11th, 2008 at 10:17 AM. Reason: Edit: got me pans and tilts mixed up!

January 9th, 2008, 11:35 AM	#136
Rick Oconnor New Boot Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Bellingham, WA Posts: 10	The 501 Bogen head/manfrotto setup looks slick. It pretty light?

January 9th, 2008, 11:38 AM	#137
Kellen Dengler Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: New York, NY Posts: 118	Yeah it's not bad. The specs on it on the B&H page says 12.5 lbs. The case has a shoulder strap and a handle so it's easy to cary either way and is really padded. I really like it.

January 9th, 2008, 11:45 AM	#138
Ger Griffin Major Player Join Date: May 2007 Location: Ireland Posts: 579	I use a 501 head on on these 055 legs http://www.manfrotto.com/Jahia/site/manfrotto/pid/14795 Its a stills tripod but IMO better than any video tripod at that price. Legs are free folding out to a certain point which makes levelling a sinch. just pull in whichever leg to where you need it to level the shot. They are not linked by a spreader so it makes this possible. Also leave just one leg down for a good monopod with a good head on it.

March 8th, 2008, 02:18 PM	#143
Diogo Athouguia Major Player Join Date: May 2005 Location: Portugal Posts: 282	I know both the Cartoni Focus and the Vinten Vision 3, the Vinten has better built quality but reaquires a spring exchange for different weights while the Focus has a progressive counter balance regulation. Both are very good heads, I can't say I prefer working whith one or another. However, I would prefer another release system on the Cartoni and not so many plastic parts. I have a Focus for my HD200, and I'm very satisfied. If you can afford also consider the Vision 6 (the same as the vision 3 but with counter balance regulation) and the Sachtler DV8.

May 1st, 2008, 08:20 PM	#145
Jack Walker Trustee Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Burbank Posts: 1,811	I haven't read anything here about any tripod for $700 that would be better than the LS-38. At the next level, among the usual suspects are: Cartoni Focus plus legs Gitzo 1380 head + legs Sacthler FSB-6 + legs Miller Solo Vinten (not the one that is the same as Bogen) ...and all of these come in between $1300 and $1700 (or more?) I believe. However, many there is something I'm missing.

May 6th, 2008, 02:48 AM	#146
Nick Gordon Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Milton Keynes, UK Posts: 166	All I can say is that I'm delighted with my LS38 - it works perfectly for me and I can't seethat anything else in the price range could be noticeably better.

May 12th, 2008, 04:05 AM	#149
Nick Gordon Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Milton Keynes, UK Posts: 166	Hmm... I use my LS-38 with a a pretty bare XH-A1 and I find tilting to be OK. It might well be that I'm not being very critical - I'm a hobbyist, not a pro, and it might well be that if I was working fast under pressure to get the shot right first time every time I'd be less happy. I knew about the weight range before I bought, but I decided that more solid was better than less solid, and I seem to be able to use the slider on the head to find a good balance position for the camera. I guess I also worked on the basis that I wouldn't be getting perfection at this price, and the balance of compromises works for me.

May 12th, 2008, 03:13 PM	#150
Shaun Williams New Boot Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Herfordshire, UK Posts: 12	Another Tripod/Head query Hi, Long-time reader, but not much of a poster. Finally got my hands on a XH A1 and now, like us all, I'm eyeing all the goodies that I can spend my cash on to complete the "basic" kit. First on the list, a decent tripod and fluid head. I'm in the UK and am looking in the £500-£700 range for a solid set of legs and a decent head that can grow with my kit. I'd quite like to add the Letus (or similar) at some point so the weight the sticks can carry is important so I dont have to re-purchase later down the line. I was, of course, wondering if anyone had any recommendations. I'd love the vinten, but, as already mentioned, budget must be a consideration, or I'll be hearing from the divorce lawyers :o) Thank you in advance. Shaun