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Pete Cofrancesco · March 19th, 2018, 06:34 AM

I saw a good deal on a Vinten Vision Blue tripod but ended up not bidding on it because it was the 5 instead of the 3. I use camcorders that weigh around 4lbs, the Panasonic UX180/90. I assume they’re to light for the vision 5?

Nate Haustein · March 19th, 2018, 11:12 AM

I’d agree with your assumption. I have the Vision Blue 3 and am using the Sony FS5 on it. If the camera is stripped way down with just a lens (3-4 lbs), I need to add a baseplate and elevate the camera for the counterbalance system to work properly. If you’re using a bare UX180 even the Blue 3 might be a little too beefy.

Pete Cofrancesco · March 19th, 2018, 01:58 PM

Well that’s good to hear. I sometimes run long pan bar and the camera has to be moved forward all the way to balance but other than that its a bare camera not heavy enough.

Paul R Johnson · March 21st, 2018, 02:21 PM

I've got a 5, and use it with a JVC 750 fine, if that helps. This camera is about the same weight.

Chris Soucy · March 23rd, 2018, 05:19 PM

Hi guys..................

Some years ago, back when Peter Harman was Vinten Product Manager, Vinten offered a complete spring set to allow a Vision Blue X to be user resprung as a VB, a VB3 or a VB5, including required special tools and instructions on how to go about it.

It MAY have been listed on their web site but I'm blowed if I ever found it. Whether this is still available can only be answered by their current ProdMan, name unknown. There MAY be an "ask X" on their current web site which might get an answer to the above question, I haven't checked in years.

"HE/ SHE" MAY pop up here on DVinfo to inform us all, tho' given that Vitec PM's have been as rare as hens teeth here for the last few years I wouldn't hold your breath in expectation.

Regards,

CS

PS: You could (from memory - always dangerous!) also buy single springs to take an existing head up or down just one level. As long as the entire range of VB systems is still being manufactured, which I assume will remain the case for some years yet, these springs must be available, its whether Vinten will still supply them either singly or as sets.

David Probst · February 19th, 2019, 07:22 PM

i have several Vision 3's and having the "spring" system has proved to be the best to go to extreme weight loads. i really wish this type of counterweight still was used.

i also have 2 - Blue 3's and will say that they are for really lightweight loads. if i put on my 1DXmkII with a 7" monitor on top of the hot shoe the Blue 3 is overwhelmed and quickly too "loose" for my tastes. i like a tight feel with "resistance" to my pushing into it. going forward id go for the "5" instead of the "3" in a heartbeat and add a little weight if needed to get the right feel.

i find the Blue's to be very limiting overall but still love the "feel" when they have a perfect load on them.

david

Peter Harman · February 20th, 2019, 05:59 AM

Hi David, if you went for the Blue5 to cater for the heavy loads, you could always get the blueBridge which you could use with your Blue5 for your lighter loads. The part number is V4106-1003. You can read more here Vinten | Vinten?s Vision bluebridge honoured with Digital Video Award | www.vinten.com

All the best

March 19th, 2018, 06:34 AM	#1
Pete Cofrancesco Inner Circle Join Date: May 2004 Location: USA Posts: 3,005	Vinten I saw a good deal on a Vinten Vision Blue tripod but ended up not bidding on it because it was the 5 instead of the 3. I use camcorders that weigh around 4lbs, the Panasonic UX180/90. I assume they’re to light for the vision 5?

March 19th, 2018, 11:12 AM	#2
Nate Haustein Trustee Join Date: May 2007 Location: Minneapolis, MN Posts: 1,313	Re: Vinten I’d agree with your assumption. I have the Vision Blue 3 and am using the Sony FS5 on it. If the camera is stripped way down with just a lens (3-4 lbs), I need to add a baseplate and elevate the camera for the counterbalance system to work properly. If you’re using a bare UX180 even the Blue 3 might be a little too beefy. __________________ Nate Haustein PXW-FX9 / FCPX www.flightcreativemedia.com

March 19th, 2018, 01:58 PM	#3
Pete Cofrancesco Inner Circle Join Date: May 2004 Location: USA Posts: 3,005	Re: Vinten Well that’s good to hear. I sometimes run long pan bar and the camera has to be moved forward all the way to balance but other than that its a bare camera not heavy enough.

March 21st, 2018, 02:21 PM	#4
Paul R Johnson Inner Circle Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Lowestoft - UK Posts: 4,045	Re: Vinten I've got a 5, and use it with a JVC 750 fine, if that helps. This camera is about the same weight.

March 23rd, 2018, 05:19 PM	#5
Chris Soucy Inner Circle Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Fairfield, Dunedin, New Zealand Posts: 3,691 Images: 18	Re: Vinten Hi guys.................. Some years ago, back when Peter Harman was Vinten Product Manager, Vinten offered a complete spring set to allow a Vision Blue X to be user resprung as a VB, a VB3 or a VB5, including required special tools and instructions on how to go about it. It MAY have been listed on their web site but I'm blowed if I ever found it. Whether this is still available can only be answered by their current ProdMan, name unknown. There MAY be an "ask X" on their current web site which might get an answer to the above question, I haven't checked in years. "HE/ SHE" MAY pop up here on DVinfo to inform us all, tho' given that Vitec PM's have been as rare as hens teeth here for the last few years I wouldn't hold your breath in expectation. Regards, CS PS: You could (from memory - always dangerous!) also buy single springs to take an existing head up or down just one level. As long as the entire range of VB systems is still being manufactured, which I assume will remain the case for some years yet, these springs must be available, its whether Vinten will still supply them either singly or as sets. Last edited by Chris Soucy; March 23rd, 2018 at 05:46 PM. Reason: Duh!

February 19th, 2019, 07:22 PM	#6
David Probst New Boot Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: St. Louis, MO Posts: 20	Re: Vinten i have several Vision 3's and having the "spring" system has proved to be the best to go to extreme weight loads. i really wish this type of counterweight still was used. i also have 2 - Blue 3's and will say that they are for really lightweight loads. if i put on my 1DXmkII with a 7" monitor on top of the hot shoe the Blue 3 is overwhelmed and quickly too "loose" for my tastes. i like a tight feel with "resistance" to my pushing into it. going forward id go for the "5" instead of the "3" in a heartbeat and add a little weight if needed to get the right feel. i find the Blue's to be very limiting overall but still love the "feel" when they have a perfect load on them. david

February 20th, 2019, 05:59 AM	#7
Peter Harman Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: UK Posts: 73	Re: Vinten Hi David, if you went for the Blue5 to cater for the heavy loads, you could always get the blueBridge which you could use with your Blue5 for your lighter loads. The part number is V4106-1003. You can read more here Vinten \| Vinten?s Vision bluebridge honoured with Digital Video Award \| www.vinten.com All the best __________________ Peter Harman Head of Global Product & Sales Training, Vitec Videocom Ltd.