Matthews M25 or Bogen 501HDV? at DVinfo.net

Brit Albritton · January 12th, 2010, 01:38 PM

Hi everyone,

I do small scale event & web videography. I've been using a JVC GY-300 (old 1/3" 3 ccd camcorder.) Soon I'll be purchasing a used DVX100b, as they are so very inexpensive these days. (I do have some consumer HD cameras for B cams & enjoy cropping within the frame & combining footage with my SD camera. I've a feeling that the HD market is still in such a rapid stage of development that I'm holding off on anything better.)

I've used a series of sub $200 tripods, and never been very happy. I'm not asking for (nor can I afford) the most professional tripod possible - I'd rather not hear that no tripod under $1000 is worth buying. (It may be true that I'd be infinitely happier with one, but I don't want to know. :))

After searching these forums for tripods in my target price range, I'm torn between getting a used Bogen 501HDV head or a Matthews M25.

Does anyone have a strong opinion about either? Is there something within $200 of this price that would be preferable? The DVX100b weighs 4.19lbs/1.9 kg stock. I may occasionally use an additional lens, but I can't imagine it will ever weigh terribly much more...

Thanks for this great forum,

Brit

Jon Fairhurst · January 12th, 2010, 04:27 PM

I'm no fan of the 501, and I haven't tried the Matthews. A friend of mine uses an inexpensive Libec with his DVX-100b, and it's not half bad.

I also didn't want to spend $1k+ on a tripod. I finally found a Bogen 516 head on 525 sticks for just over $300 on eBay. It's built like a tank, and expects a much heavier camera than I own, but it gets the job done. The spring is much too tight for my 5D Mark II setup, but I haven't found this to be a problem for short clips in a narrative film. You certainly can't see it on the screen. That said, I'd hate to shoot a day long conference with this thing, as you can never let go of it, unless it's a dead level shot, or you lock down the tilt.

Anyway, look into Libec, and keep your eye on eBay and craigslist. You might just find yourself a deal.

Colin McDonald · January 12th, 2010, 04:29 PM

I can certainly vouch for the Matthews customer service and I think I can say that I know my M25 inside out:
http://www.dvinfo.net/forum/tripod-s...eg-repair.html
It's very good value and works very well with my Canon XH-A1.

Andy Tejral · January 12th, 2010, 04:31 PM

I think that Matthews IS the Libec. Someone else puts their name on the same model too. Around $200?

I bought one for my VX1000, geez, a decade ago! They've improved the head on it. Within its limitations, it was a lot of tripod for the money. About 8 years in, the quick release started having wiggle issues. But $200/8years isn't too bad.

Adam Grunseth · January 12th, 2010, 04:33 PM

I use a Mathews M25 with my JVC-HD110 and just purchased another one for my HM700. I found it by far the best tripod in the price range. True, its not a $2000 Vinten, and it would be unfair to compare it as such. When comparing it to other tripods though, it feels much closer to the $2000 Vinten than other tripods in its price range.

Boris Barel · January 12th, 2010, 06:25 PM

The 501 is absolutely useless piece of junk.

Brit Albritton · January 13th, 2010, 09:26 AM

Thanks guys. I've yet to hear a bad word about the Matthews - anyone ;)?

Brit

January 12th, 2010, 01:38 PM	#1
Brit Albritton New Boot Join Date: May 2006 Location: Northampton, MA Posts: 15	Matthews M25 or Bogen 501HDV? Hi everyone, I do small scale event & web videography. I've been using a JVC GY-300 (old 1/3" 3 ccd camcorder.) Soon I'll be purchasing a used DVX100b, as they are so very inexpensive these days. (I do have some consumer HD cameras for B cams & enjoy cropping within the frame & combining footage with my SD camera. I've a feeling that the HD market is still in such a rapid stage of development that I'm holding off on anything better.) I've used a series of sub $200 tripods, and never been very happy. I'm not asking for (nor can I afford) the most professional tripod possible - I'd rather not hear that no tripod under $1000 is worth buying. (It may be true that I'd be infinitely happier with one, but I don't want to know. :)) After searching these forums for tripods in my target price range, I'm torn between getting a used Bogen 501HDV head or a Matthews M25. Does anyone have a strong opinion about either? Is there something within $200 of this price that would be preferable? The DVX100b weighs 4.19lbs/1.9 kg stock. I may occasionally use an additional lens, but I can't imagine it will ever weigh terribly much more... Thanks for this great forum, Brit

January 12th, 2010, 04:27 PM	#2
Jon Fairhurst Inner Circle Join Date: May 2006 Location: Camas, WA, USA Posts: 5,513	I'm no fan of the 501, and I haven't tried the Matthews. A friend of mine uses an inexpensive Libec with his DVX-100b, and it's not half bad. I also didn't want to spend $1k+ on a tripod. I finally found a Bogen 516 head on 525 sticks for just over $300 on eBay. It's built like a tank, and expects a much heavier camera than I own, but it gets the job done. The spring is much too tight for my 5D Mark II setup, but I haven't found this to be a problem for short clips in a narrative film. You certainly can't see it on the screen. That said, I'd hate to shoot a day long conference with this thing, as you can never let go of it, unless it's a dead level shot, or you lock down the tilt. Anyway, look into Libec, and keep your eye on eBay and craigslist. You might just find yourself a deal. __________________ Jon Fairhurst

January 12th, 2010, 04:31 PM	#4
Andy Tejral Major Player Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: New York City Posts: 523	I think that Matthews IS the Libec. Someone else puts their name on the same model too. Around $200? I bought one for my VX1000, geez, a decade ago! They've improved the head on it. Within its limitations, it was a lot of tripod for the money. About 8 years in, the quick release started having wiggle issues. But $200/8years isn't too bad. __________________ Andy Tejral Railroad Videographer

January 12th, 2010, 04:33 PM	#5
Adam Grunseth Major Player Join Date: May 2005 Location: Eugene Oregon Posts: 393	Another vote for Mathews M25 I use a Mathews M25 with my JVC-HD110 and just purchased another one for my HM700. I found it by far the best tripod in the price range. True, its not a $2000 Vinten, and it would be unfair to compare it as such. When comparing it to other tripods though, it feels much closer to the $2000 Vinten than other tripods in its price range.

January 12th, 2010, 06:25 PM	#6
Boris Barel Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Israel Posts: 45	The 501 is absolutely useless piece of junk. __________________ www.newshound.biz

January 12th, 2010, 04:29 PM	#3
Colin McDonald Trustee Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Glasgow, Scotland Posts: 1,546	I can certainly vouch for the Matthews customer service and I think I can say that I know my M25 inside out: http://www.dvinfo.net/forum/tripod-s...eg-repair.html It's very good value and works very well with my Canon XH-A1.

January 13th, 2010, 09:26 AM	#7
Brit Albritton New Boot Join Date: May 2006 Location: Northampton, MA Posts: 15	Thanks! Thanks guys. I've yet to hear a bad word about the Matthews - anyone ;)? Brit