best tripod for dvc30?

Bill Porter · July 14th, 2005, 10:00 PM

Thanks, Jay! Good to know from someone who has tried more than one thing.

Chris Scharff · September 3rd, 2005, 06:42 PM

Ok sorry, I know this has been discussed before and I do realize the importance of a good, solid tripod and that everyone will recommend me to a $800 Bogen, but there is just no way for me to ever afford that. Plus, I have used the Manfrotto 525MVB with a 501 head extensively and love it, but at $650 and about a hundred pounds, it's just too much for me.
My main concerns are simply height and a good fluid head, as a tape live shows, usually in the back (over the crowds heads). I'll be using cameras like a GL2 or a DVC30. So I have decided on these, and I really like the ProVista, for the price and the reviews. I'd love it to keep it under $250 and that one seems like the best bang for the buck. I know Bogens are indestructable but I promise I'm not that abusive. Any help or current user reviews are greatly appreciated.
Smith-Victor
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/cont...ughType=search
Davis and Sanford
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/cont...ughType=search
Bogen
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/cont...ughType=search
Bogen
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/cont....x=0&image.y=0

Boyd Ostroff · September 3rd, 2005, 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris Scharff

as a tape live shows, usually in the back (over the crowds heads).

I also shoot performances from a distance of about 100 feet from the stage. Unfortunately this is one of the most demanding things for a tripod and head. When you're zoomed in all the way every slight jerk in panning/tilting motion is greatly magnified, as is every slight tripod movement. I used a Manfrotto 3221/501 setup and was very unhappy with the results even after a lot of practice. I upgraded to a Miller DS-5 which was a huge improvement, but it cost around $800.

I know it isn't what you want to hear, but I can't imagine you will get acceptable shots with a $200 tripod in this situation unless you are using locked down shots and not zooming in all the way.

Robert J. Wolff · September 4th, 2005, 09:18 AM

Good Morning, Chris.

To be blunt: There is no such thing as a "good", or, "adequate", or, whatever, for @$250. It does not exist.

You get what you paid for. Swallow the lump in your throat, and spend the loot.

In the long run you will be much happier.

Paul Lawrence · September 22nd, 2006, 09:33 PM

Can anyone please give me some advice on what kind of setup I would need for my digital camera (Canon 20D) and soon to be purchased Panasonic DVC30? I definitely do not have enough money to purchase two different setups. I need head and plate system that works for both. I plan on shooting alot of bald eagles this winter just to give you an idea of what I will be doing. My price range is about $300-400. Thanks.

Jeffrey Lovell · July 21st, 2008, 11:42 AM

Hi all!

I do mainly weddings but also produce a weekly cable show from my church and am looking toward a better tripod. Mine is good but I would like to get a "real" fluid head and one with an adjustable plate so I can ballance my camcorder.

I have the Pana DVC30.

I have looked through B&H on line but for me ther are too many varibles for heads and legs. Can someone suggest a nice combo?? I would rather have legs that are conencted to each other.
Thanks,

Jeff

Rick Steele · July 21st, 2008, 12:03 PM

Can't go wrong with a Bogen 503 head and some good sticks with a spreader:

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produc...ipod_Legs.html

Garrett Low · July 21st, 2008, 12:20 PM

Hi Jeffery,

This is a huge question. There are quite a few threads already going on this but it really depends on your budget.

What type of tripod do you use now? I'm in the process of trying to upgrade my tripod system. I currently use a Cartoni ActionPro DV which does a very good job but I'm using it with a Canon XH A1. The tripod has a load capacity of just over 6lbs so when I load up my camera it is a little heavy for it.

I'm looking at a Sachtler system now but they are much more expensive. Your camera is pretty light so your choices are going to be a little more limited in the higher end tirpod range.

I was just getting ready to list my Cartoni on Ebay but if you think you might be interested I'd be willing to sell it directly to you. Let me knwo if you might be interesed.

I think the levels of different price ranges are (from lowest cost):

Bogen/Manfrotto 503
Libec
Miller DS10 or Cartoni
Vinten Vision 3 or Sachtler FSB6 or DV6

Things I would look for in a tripod sysetm, half ball mounting (bowl mounting) of the tripod head, mid level spreader, padded carrying case, fluid head, and make sure the tripod head can be balanced for the weight of your camera set up.

Good luck,
Garrett

Steven Davis · July 21st, 2008, 01:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rick Steele

Can't go wrong with a Bogen 503 head and some good sticks with a spreader:

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produc...ipod_Legs.html

Certainly no offense meant Rick. But my take on the new HDV from Bogen would not be a positive one. I run a Z1 and V1 on it and I dislike that head very much. The action on my old 503 is much much better. I think Bogen blew it when they made the 503hdv for smaller cameras, even though both the Z1 and V1 fit within the weight recommendations according to the poorly written manual. These are my opinions on the HDV 503. I have had a nightmarish experince with that head. I dont' go out of my way to talk negative, but I would use caution with the new 503 HDV.

Rick Steele · July 21st, 2008, 01:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steven Davis

I dont' go out of my way to talk negative, but I would use caution with the new 503 HDV.

Ah... I use the older 503 also. Wasn't aware they screwed with the newer one so much.

Par for the course though... It wasn't broke so we fixed it. :)

Steven Davis · July 21st, 2008, 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rick Steele

Ah... I use the older 503 also. Wasn't aware they screwed with the newer one so much.

Par for the course though... It wasn't broke so we fixed it. :)

Yeah Rick, it's bad. I have yet to get (according to the instructions) the head/camera not to drop forward when I release the handles. I can tighten the drag all the way and get that to work, but not according to the instructions. I'll get off my soap box now.

Jeffrey Lovell · July 22nd, 2008, 09:01 AM

Thanks for the replies. Don't remember right off hand what mine is. It supports it ok, but is not real smooth on movements.

I'll look into the 503 and see....

Jeff

Garrett Low · July 22nd, 2008, 09:55 AM

You might also want to look at a Libec LS38. Many people find are very happy with this setup and it's in the same pricerange as the Bogen. You might also look into getting a used set. You can often find some really good deals if you can be patient and wait for one to come up. For the same price as the 503 or LS38 new you could find something a little higher end used.

I'd recommend getting the best tripod you can reasonably afford. Going through my current tripod search has been a really big eye opener to the different levels and limitations of the various tripods.

September 3rd, 2005, 06:42 PM	#17
Chris Scharff Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: ATLANTA, GA Posts: 68	Good tripod under $200? sorry, once again.... Ok sorry, I know this has been discussed before and I do realize the importance of a good, solid tripod and that everyone will recommend me to a $800 Bogen, but there is just no way for me to ever afford that. Plus, I have used the Manfrotto 525MVB with a 501 head extensively and love it, but at $650 and about a hundred pounds, it's just too much for me. My main concerns are simply height and a good fluid head, as a tape live shows, usually in the back (over the crowds heads). I'll be using cameras like a GL2 or a DVC30. So I have decided on these, and I really like the ProVista, for the price and the reviews. I'd love it to keep it under $250 and that one seems like the best bang for the buck. I know Bogens are indestructable but I promise I'm not that abusive. Any help or current user reviews are greatly appreciated. Smith-Victor http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/cont...ughType=search Davis and Sanford http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/cont...ughType=search Bogen http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/cont...ughType=search Bogen http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/cont....x=0&image.y=0

September 4th, 2005, 09:18 AM	#19
Robert J. Wolff Major Player Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Adirondacks of New York Posts: 210	Good Morning, Chris. To be blunt: There is no such thing as a "good", or, "adequate", or, whatever, for @$250. It does not exist. You get what you paid for. Swallow the lump in your throat, and spend the loot. In the long run you will be much happier. __________________ Himself

September 22nd, 2006, 09:33 PM	#20
Paul Lawrence Tourist Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Eagle River, AK Posts: 3	Need tripod and head for Canon 20D & DVC30 Can anyone please give me some advice on what kind of setup I would need for my digital camera (Canon 20D) and soon to be purchased Panasonic DVC30? I definitely do not have enough money to purchase two different setups. I need head and plate system that works for both. I plan on shooting alot of bald eagles this winter just to give you an idea of what I will be doing. My price range is about $300-400. Thanks.

July 21st, 2008, 11:42 AM	#21
Jeffrey Lovell Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Bloomington, IL Posts: 61	Tripod recomendations Hi all! I do mainly weddings but also produce a weekly cable show from my church and am looking toward a better tripod. Mine is good but I would like to get a "real" fluid head and one with an adjustable plate so I can ballance my camcorder. I have the Pana DVC30. I have looked through B&H on line but for me ther are too many varibles for heads and legs. Can someone suggest a nice combo?? I would rather have legs that are conencted to each other. Thanks, Jeff __________________ Created Design Video Video production for the common man

July 22nd, 2008, 09:01 AM	#27
Jeffrey Lovell Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Bloomington, IL Posts: 61	Thanks for the replies. Don't remember right off hand what mine is. It supports it ok, but is not real smooth on movements. I'll look into the 503 and see.... Jeff __________________ Created Design Video Video production for the common man

July 14th, 2005, 10:00 PM	#16
Bill Porter Major Player Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Ventura, California, USA Posts: 751	Thanks, Jay! Good to know from someone who has tried more than one thing.

July 21st, 2008, 12:03 PM	#22
Rick Steele Major Player Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Denver, Colorado USA Posts: 654	Can't go wrong with a Bogen 503 head and some good sticks with a spreader: http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produc...ipod_Legs.html

July 21st, 2008, 12:20 PM	#23
Garrett Low Trustee Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Novato, CA Posts: 1,774	Hi Jeffery, This is a huge question. There are quite a few threads already going on this but it really depends on your budget. What type of tripod do you use now? I'm in the process of trying to upgrade my tripod system. I currently use a Cartoni ActionPro DV which does a very good job but I'm using it with a Canon XH A1. The tripod has a load capacity of just over 6lbs so when I load up my camera it is a little heavy for it. I'm looking at a Sachtler system now but they are much more expensive. Your camera is pretty light so your choices are going to be a little more limited in the higher end tirpod range. I was just getting ready to list my Cartoni on Ebay but if you think you might be interested I'd be willing to sell it directly to you. Let me knwo if you might be interesed. I think the levels of different price ranges are (from lowest cost): Bogen/Manfrotto 503 Libec Miller DS10 or Cartoni Vinten Vision 3 or Sachtler FSB6 or DV6 Things I would look for in a tripod sysetm, half ball mounting (bowl mounting) of the tripod head, mid level spreader, padded carrying case, fluid head, and make sure the tripod head can be balanced for the weight of your camera set up. Good luck, Garrett

July 22nd, 2008, 09:55 AM	#28
Garrett Low Trustee Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Novato, CA Posts: 1,774	You might also want to look at a Libec LS38. Many people find are very happy with this setup and it's in the same pricerange as the Bogen. You might also look into getting a used set. You can often find some really good deals if you can be patient and wait for one to come up. For the same price as the 503 or LS38 new you could find something a little higher end used. I'd recommend getting the best tripod you can reasonably afford. Going through my current tripod search has been a really big eye opener to the different levels and limitations of the various tripods.