Midrange tripod

Jay Gladwell · August 18th, 2002, 02:21 PM

You can "adjust" it only to a point. First, you can adjust the plate by moving the screws to the forward or rearward holes (this would "move" the center of gravity of the camera), depending on where they are originally. Second, once the plate is on the camera and both are mounted on the head, you can slide the camera so far forward or aft that the weight negates the self-center mechanism, causing the entire camera with head to lean forward or backward.

Josh Bass · August 18th, 2002, 11:48 PM

Is there a certain way you've found to work best?

Jay Gladwell · August 19th, 2002, 05:38 AM

I'm using the self-leveling option. At the risk of sounding critical, and alluding to an earlier post, I've decided to learn how to work with the equipment, rather than trying to make it do something it wasn't designed to do. More often than not, there is a learning curve on my part, but that should be expected.

By-the-way, I only have one pan arm. The only time I've ever used two was on pedestal mounted camera in the studio.

Josh Bass · August 19th, 2002, 11:44 AM

Okay. I've heard having two pan arms is a good thing. . .just wanted some other opinions.

Jeff Donald · August 19th, 2002, 11:52 AM

I've only used them in the studio, also. I think they would be a little awkward in the field.

Jeff

Josh Bass · August 19th, 2002, 12:16 PM

Awkward how? I've heard they add stability. Right now I have to hunch over the camera and put my left hand on the lens, right hand on the pan arm.

Jay Gladwell · August 19th, 2002, 12:39 PM

I can't imagine how a second pan arm would make a camera more stable. The second arm on a pedestal mounted camera is a matter of function and control. All the camera/pedestal controls are on the two arms.

Cameras used in the field and cameras used in the studio are configured the way they are for a reason--the way they're used, where they're used and what they're shooting.

Elsewhere, you talked about problems with extreme pans--that second arm will make a difficult situation even more so!

Jeff Donald · August 19th, 2002, 12:58 PM

I do a lot of follow shots in the field (hawks, eagles, ospreys in flight) and you think its tough to get a pan smooth because of the tripod legs, wait till you try it with 2 handles. Of course it's a personal thing, but I find it really awkward.

Jeff

Josh Bass · August 19th, 2002, 01:06 PM

Ok. . .I remember several other people saying how they'd definitely have more stability if they'd had another pan arm, but I'll take your word for it.

Jay Gladwell · August 19th, 2002, 01:16 PM

Ahh, there you have it. They "imagined" they would have more stability, but they have not experienced it! There's the catch.

Too, I would like to know how they think the second arm would make the camera more stable? What was their logic?

Jeff's example is a perfect one--follow shots. After the first attempt to follow something like a bird in flight, or even panning with a car or truck, I'd bet my head against a football you'd take off the second arm and chuck it.

August 18th, 2002, 11:48 PM	#47
Josh Bass Slash Rules! Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 5,472	Is there a certain way you've found to work best? __________________ The Bass' camerawork The Bass on IMDB

August 19th, 2002, 11:44 AM	#49
Josh Bass Slash Rules! Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 5,472	Okay. I've heard having two pan arms is a good thing. . .just wanted some other opinions. __________________ The Bass' camerawork The Bass on IMDB

August 19th, 2002, 12:16 PM	#51
Josh Bass Slash Rules! Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 5,472	Awkward how? I've heard they add stability. Right now I have to hunch over the camera and put my left hand on the lens, right hand on the pan arm. __________________ The Bass' camerawork The Bass on IMDB

August 19th, 2002, 01:06 PM	#54
Josh Bass Slash Rules! Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 5,472	Ok. . .I remember several other people saying how they'd definitely have more stability if they'd had another pan arm, but I'll take your word for it. __________________ The Bass' camerawork The Bass on IMDB

August 18th, 2002, 02:21 PM	#46
Jay Gladwell Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 1,244	You can "adjust" it only to a point. First, you can adjust the plate by moving the screws to the forward or rearward holes (this would "move" the center of gravity of the camera), depending on where they are originally. Second, once the plate is on the camera and both are mounted on the head, you can slide the camera so far forward or aft that the weight negates the self-center mechanism, causing the entire camera with head to lean forward or backward.

August 19th, 2002, 05:38 AM	#48
Jay Gladwell Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 1,244	I'm using the self-leveling option. At the risk of sounding critical, and alluding to an earlier post, I've decided to learn how to work with the equipment, rather than trying to make it do something it wasn't designed to do. More often than not, there is a learning curve on my part, but that should be expected. By-the-way, I only have one pan arm. The only time I've ever used two was on pedestal mounted camera in the studio.

August 19th, 2002, 11:52 AM	#50
Jeff Donald Warden Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Clearwater, FL Posts: 8,287	I've only used them in the studio, also. I think they would be a little awkward in the field. Jeff

August 19th, 2002, 12:39 PM	#52
Jay Gladwell Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 1,244	I can't imagine how a second pan arm would make a camera more stable. The second arm on a pedestal mounted camera is a matter of function and control. All the camera/pedestal controls are on the two arms. Cameras used in the field and cameras used in the studio are configured the way they are for a reason--the way they're used, where they're used and what they're shooting. Elsewhere, you talked about problems with extreme pans--that second arm will make a difficult situation even more so!

August 19th, 2002, 12:58 PM	#53
Jeff Donald Warden Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Clearwater, FL Posts: 8,287	I do a lot of follow shots in the field (hawks, eagles, ospreys in flight) and you think its tough to get a pan smooth because of the tripod legs, wait till you try it with 2 handles. Of course it's a personal thing, but I find it really awkward. Jeff

August 19th, 2002, 01:16 PM	#55
Jay Gladwell Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 1,244	Ahh, there you have it. They "imagined" they would have more stability, but they have not experienced it! There's the catch. Too, I would like to know how they think the second arm would make the camera more stable? What was their logic? Jeff's example is a perfect one--follow shots. After the first attempt to follow something like a bird in flight, or even panning with a car or truck, I'd bet my head against a football you'd take off the second arm and chuck it.