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Jason Casey · November 6th, 2003, 11:06 AM

Anybody have some suggestions on a good tripod for the GL2 that won't cost a lot?? Something under $200 would be perfect. Fluid head would be nice, and the height is very important, needs to be able to extend to 6 feet or higher as I usually shoot in clubs and I need to get over peoples heads. I've been looking at the Bogen but they are just way too expensive. Any other brands or models that are good?

Richard Lewis · November 6th, 2003, 02:09 PM

I can’t really help, I use the Manfrotto "Bogen" 525MV legs and 503 head.
At the end of the day, you get what you pay for, so I guess the second hand market is probably your best bet.
Or your ganna have to find some more money, especially if you want a descent fluid head.

You could get the 501 head and some cheaper s/h legs. (75mm bowl for bet performance levelling)

Jeff Donald · November 6th, 2003, 02:31 PM

Search this forum for Libec 20 and you'll find many references to it and many recommendations also.

Jason Chang · November 7th, 2003, 09:14 PM

I've owned a Bogen for my Canon XL1.....absolutely hated it. The Velbon tripod I got later is a lot better than the expensive Bogen. Check out the Velbon website for their professional video tripods.

Richard Lewis · November 9th, 2003, 12:59 PM

I love mine :P

Jean-Philippe Archibald · November 9th, 2003, 01:23 PM

Hi Jason,

I am currently looking for a tripod for my XL1. Could you tell me which is the model in the velbon line which you recommend?

Paul Mogg · November 9th, 2003, 03:16 PM

A good fluid head will cost you more than a GL2 costs. One that will give you really professional smooth movements even when fully zoomed in, without any "sticking" at the start and stop of a pan or tilt, and smooth, equalized drag, both horizontally and vertically. That's just the way it is with heads, good ones cost a lot of money because they're well engineered. I put up with a Bogen 3066 for ages, convicing myself it was good, until I tried a Sachtler, the difference is worlds apart, and will make a huge difference to the quality of your work, so just bite the bullet and invest. I had a tough time making this decision, but am very glad I finally did.

Jason Chang · November 9th, 2003, 03:28 PM

Velbon D-600 is a good tripod. For even less money, you can get a velbon Videomate 607.
You will be disappointed with either of them. They are light-weight and yet offer smooth pan and tilt action.

You should not be spending so much money on a tripod unless you are making big bucks....I know I am not. Good luck!

Steve Nunez · November 9th, 2003, 04:27 PM

Bogen Manfrotto 3221 is a nice tripod for the $$$- I believe around $200

Jason Chang · November 9th, 2003, 05:44 PM

Steve is right. But you are doing a lot of live events, a lighter tripod may be easier to move around.

Stephen Sobel · November 9th, 2003, 07:21 PM

Another option is the Libec M20. I got mine from B&H for a reasonable price.

Dave Largent · November 10th, 2003, 05:15 AM

I plan on getting the Bogen 3058 legs. Goes 9 feet high if needed
to shoot over peoples' heads.

Graham Bernard · November 10th, 2003, 05:31 AM

How are you gonna focus and see at that distance? Sounds like you'll be needing a separate lcd screen to "see" what you're filming? More money . . ..

Grazie

Dave Largent · November 10th, 2003, 07:04 AM

Ya, Graham. I haven't got all the details worked out yet. Not sure how a ladder would work out. When the spec was given as to max height, I had to get out a calculator to convert the inches to feet. Minimum height is 21 inches. It goes 8 1/2 feet *without* the center column extended! Now that's a tripod.

Dave Largent · November 11th, 2003, 12:14 AM

So I got to thinking more about Grazie's question about how really am I gonna operate that thing. Good question. When it's
at the 9 feet, I'm gonna need to be able to zoom, tilt, and pan about 180 degrees, sometimes all at the same time. I didn't think it all the way through before I made the purchase. I just had some vague idea about getting a couple 5 foot ladders and walking around from one to the other as I panned. But then I got to thinking: 5 feet is pretty high to be up off the ground and to be stepping from ladder to ladder without even being able to
see where I'm stepping. So here's the new plan. I just happened to have ordered a Lanc controler the same time as the
"monster pod". So maybe I'll go get a 6 foot length of copper
tubing, put it over the handle of the head and duct tape it in place. Then I'll fasten the Lanc contoller to the other end of the
tubing. Now, I had had plans to buy a 5" or 7" color TV to use as
an inexpensive field monitor. But maybe instead I'll get one of those handheld TVs with a 3" screen and electrical tape it to the
copper tube right above the Lanc controller. Ya. (Anyone know if Lanc wire is any special type of wire or can I get that at Radio Shack.) The controller comes with about 3 feet attached; figure I'll need about a 6 foot extension. .... And the monster pod *is* rated for 44 pounds capacity. Now if I got a Cobra crane with a 8 foot jib arm I bet that tripod would support that; I could operate it sitting on top of a 10 foot ladder ....... Uh, I think need to get some rest!

November 6th, 2003, 11:06 AM	#1
Jason Casey Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 93	OT: Good tripod that won't bankrupt me! Anybody have some suggestions on a good tripod for the GL2 that won't cost a lot?? Something under $200 would be perfect. Fluid head would be nice, and the height is very important, needs to be able to extend to 6 feet or higher as I usually shoot in clubs and I need to get over peoples heads. I've been looking at the Bogen but they are just way too expensive. Any other brands or models that are good? __________________ Jason Casey www.jcmediaservices.com www.kickbacktracks.com Royalty Free Video Production Loops!

November 6th, 2003, 02:31 PM	#3
Jeff Donald Warden Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Clearwater, FL Posts: 8,287	Search this forum for Libec 20 and you'll find many references to it and many recommendations also. __________________ Jeff Donald Carpe Diem Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Where to Buy? From the best in the business: DVinfo.net sponsors

November 7th, 2003, 09:14 PM	#4
Jason Chang Regular Crew Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: San Diego, CA USA Posts: 163	Tripod I've owned a Bogen for my Canon XL1.....absolutely hated it. The Velbon tripod I got later is a lot better than the expensive Bogen. Check out the Velbon website for their professional video tripods.

November 9th, 2003, 01:23 PM	#6
Jean-Philippe Archibald Trustee Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Saguenay, Québec, Canada Posts: 1,051	Hi Jason, I am currently looking for a tripod for my XL1. Could you tell me which is the model in the velbon line which you recommend? __________________ Jean-Philippe Archibald http://www.jparchibald.com - http://www.vimeo.com/jparchib

November 9th, 2003, 03:16 PM	#7
Paul Mogg Major Player Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: San Francisco CA Posts: 386	A good fluid head will cost you more than a GL2 costs. One that will give you really professional smooth movements even when fully zoomed in, without any "sticking" at the start and stop of a pan or tilt, and smooth, equalized drag, both horizontally and vertically. That's just the way it is with heads, good ones cost a lot of money because they're well engineered. I put up with a Bogen 3066 for ages, convicing myself it was good, until I tried a Sachtler, the difference is worlds apart, and will make a huge difference to the quality of your work, so just bite the bullet and invest. I had a tough time making this decision, but am very glad I finally did. __________________ Paul

November 6th, 2003, 02:09 PM	#2
Richard Lewis Major Player Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Manchester and Kent, UK Posts: 256	I can’t really help, I use the Manfrotto "Bogen" 525MV legs and 503 head. At the end of the day, you get what you pay for, so I guess the second hand market is probably your best bet. Or your ganna have to find some more money, especially if you want a descent fluid head. You could get the 501 head and some cheaper s/h legs. (75mm bowl for bet performance levelling)

November 9th, 2003, 12:59 PM	#5
Richard Lewis Major Player Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Manchester and Kent, UK Posts: 256	I love mine :P

November 9th, 2003, 03:28 PM	#8
Jason Chang Regular Crew Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: San Diego, CA USA Posts: 163	Velbon Velbon D-600 is a good tripod. For even less money, you can get a velbon Videomate 607. You will be disappointed with either of them. They are light-weight and yet offer smooth pan and tilt action. You should not be spending so much money on a tripod unless you are making big bucks....I know I am not. Good luck!

November 9th, 2003, 04:27 PM	#9
Steve Nunez Trustee Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Pembroke Pines, Florida Posts: 1,418	Bogen Manfrotto 3221 is a nice tripod for the $$$- I believe around $200 __________________ Steve Nunez-New York City www.stevenunez.com

November 9th, 2003, 05:44 PM	#10
Jason Chang Regular Crew Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: San Diego, CA USA Posts: 163	Steve is right. But you are doing a lot of live events, a lighter tripod may be easier to move around.

November 9th, 2003, 07:21 PM	#11
Stephen Sobel Major Player Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 408	Another option is the Libec M20. I got mine from B&H for a reasonable price.

November 10th, 2003, 05:15 AM	#12
Dave Largent Trustee Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 1,483	I plan on getting the Bogen 3058 legs. Goes 9 feet high if needed to shoot over peoples' heads.

November 10th, 2003, 05:31 AM	#13
Graham Bernard Old Boot Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: London UK Posts: 3,633	9 feet high eh? How are you gonna focus and see at that distance? Sounds like you'll be needing a separate lcd screen to "see" what you're filming? More money . . .. Grazie

November 10th, 2003, 07:04 AM	#14
Dave Largent Trustee Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 1,483	Ya, Graham. I haven't got all the details worked out yet. Not sure how a ladder would work out. When the spec was given as to max height, I had to get out a calculator to convert the inches to feet. Minimum height is 21 inches. It goes 8 1/2 feet without the center column extended! Now that's a tripod.

November 11th, 2003, 12:14 AM	#15
Dave Largent Trustee Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 1,483	So I got to thinking more about Grazie's question about how really am I gonna operate that thing. Good question. When it's at the 9 feet, I'm gonna need to be able to zoom, tilt, and pan about 180 degrees, sometimes all at the same time. I didn't think it all the way through before I made the purchase. I just had some vague idea about getting a couple 5 foot ladders and walking around from one to the other as I panned. But then I got to thinking: 5 feet is pretty high to be up off the ground and to be stepping from ladder to ladder without even being able to see where I'm stepping. So here's the new plan. I just happened to have ordered a Lanc controler the same time as the "monster pod". So maybe I'll go get a 6 foot length of copper tubing, put it over the handle of the head and duct tape it in place. Then I'll fasten the Lanc contoller to the other end of the tubing. Now, I had had plans to buy a 5" or 7" color TV to use as an inexpensive field monitor. But maybe instead I'll get one of those handheld TVs with a 3" screen and electrical tape it to the copper tube right above the Lanc controller. Ya. (Anyone know if Lanc wire is any special type of wire or can I get that at Radio Shack.) The controller comes with about 3 feet attached; figure I'll need about a 6 foot extension. .... And the monster pod is rated for 44 pounds capacity. Now if I got a Cobra crane with a 8 foot jib arm I bet that tripod would support that; I could operate it sitting on top of a 10 foot ladder ....... Uh, I think need to get some rest!