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Bob Kerner · January 21st, 2009, 11:37 AM

I'm trying to compare Sachtler models that are 2 stage ENG versus one stage models. Both look like they go to similar max heights (depending on what web page you view the specs on!).

Assuming both go to the same basic height, is there a reason to chose one stage over two? Is there a performance difference other than the two stage has an extra section to extend/collapse?

Thank you

Chris Soucy · January 21st, 2009, 04:40 PM

I'll assume you meant 3 stage (2 moveable sections, one fixed) and 2 stage (one moveable section, 1 fixed).

The only real differences are that the more stages, the greater the weight (assuming both models are exactly the same height) because of the extra locking mechanism and the need to have a beefier collar for a moveable section.

In addition, the closed height of the 3 stage will be less than for a 2 stage.

Other than that, you pays your money and takes your choice.

CS

Bill Pryor · January 21st, 2009, 04:51 PM

I prefer the 2-stage, but as you say, the tripod won't collapse as short. Still, it's quicker to set up and to move up and down.

Tripp Woelfel · January 21st, 2009, 05:48 PM

Not sure what you're shooting and that might make a difference to you. I have a 3 stage and wouldn't trade it for a 2. Now I shoot in a lot of different locations and I want different angles, low, high, cockeyed... you name it. The 3 stage gives me more options.

As Bill said, a 2 stage would set up a little quicker but I wouldn't trade that for the loss in flexibility.

YMMV.

Steve Phillipps · January 22nd, 2009, 02:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Soucy

I'll assume you meant 3 stage (2 moveable sections, one fixed) and 2 stage (one moveable section, 1 fixed).

CS

Must be different here Chris, but we call them single stage and 2 stage (ie Sachtler EFP 2CF meaning 2 stage carbon fibre).

The single stage tripods are definitely more stable (as common sense with indicate). I have single stage hd cf Sachtler and 2 stage. The bowl unit on the single stage is also a bit beefier, and the bolts which hold the leg sections to it are less prone to loosening over time.

The big plus of the 2 stage (and the reason they were invented) is that you can go lower and have a smaller package to transport. I use my 2 stage when off in the hills as I can't carry tall and short legs - the single stage don't go low enough to allow sitting on the ground.
But if I'm near the car I'll always use the single stage - the difference though is most noticeable if you've got a really beefy head with heavy drag (I first really noticed a big difference with my Ronford Atlas 30 head, and again with my O'Connor 2060).

Steve

January 21st, 2009, 11:37 AM	#1
Bob Kerner Major Player Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: New York Posts: 388	Two stage or one? I'm trying to compare Sachtler models that are 2 stage ENG versus one stage models. Both look like they go to similar max heights (depending on what web page you view the specs on!). Assuming both go to the same basic height, is there a reason to chose one stage over two? Is there a performance difference other than the two stage has an extra section to extend/collapse? Thank you

January 21st, 2009, 04:40 PM	#2
Chris Soucy Inner Circle Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Fairfield, Dunedin, New Zealand Posts: 3,689 Images: 18	Hi Bob................. I'll assume you meant 3 stage (2 moveable sections, one fixed) and 2 stage (one moveable section, 1 fixed). The only real differences are that the more stages, the greater the weight (assuming both models are exactly the same height) because of the extra locking mechanism and the need to have a beefier collar for a moveable section. In addition, the closed height of the 3 stage will be less than for a 2 stage. Other than that, you pays your money and takes your choice. CS

January 21st, 2009, 04:51 PM	#3
Bill Pryor Contributor Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Kansas City, MO Posts: 4,449	I prefer the 2-stage, but as you say, the tripod won't collapse as short. Still, it's quicker to set up and to move up and down.

January 21st, 2009, 05:48 PM	#4
Tripp Woelfel Trustee Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: North Conway, NH Posts: 1,745	Not sure what you're shooting and that might make a difference to you. I have a 3 stage and wouldn't trade it for a 2. Now I shoot in a lot of different locations and I want different angles, low, high, cockeyed... you name it. The 3 stage gives me more options. As Bill said, a 2 stage would set up a little quicker but I wouldn't trade that for the loss in flexibility. YMMV.