Cameraman in Iraq? at DVinfo.net

Scott Silverman · March 23rd, 2003, 09:43 PM

Does anyone know how the cameramen, photographers, and journalists in Iraq were selected to be sent over? Did the news stations take volunteers of their reporters? Did they choose their best ones?

It sounds like a wonderful experience, despite the dangers. It is actually something I would love to pursue someday.

I saw a live broadcast of a reporter stationed with some U.S. troops. The broadcast was from a moving Bradley Fighting Vehicle. It was amazing. They must have had a portable dish relaying live video to a satellite . Is that how they would do something like that?

Thanks!

Adrian Douglas · March 23rd, 2003, 10:12 PM

Having been in active military situations Scott, I can tell you from experience it downright bloody frightening. However, when you return and reflect on your experience, you are a better person for the most.

I wish now that I had had my XL1 during my time so I could have documented it all. I am actually thinking about shooting a documentary about my old squadron when I return to Australia.

As to how the networks choose who goes, I can't help you that much. My guess would be they would have certain people trained to work under those conditions. You certainly don't take some Joe reporter off the street and drop him in a war zone.

There was a link to an article that talked about the technology being used in Iraq/Kuwait, but I can't seem to find it.

Matt Stahley · March 24th, 2003, 12:44 AM

heres a link
http://www.poynter.org/content/conte...w.asp?id=23585

March 24th, 2003, 02:20 AM

If you were employed by a news agency they would have applied for a slot to have you embed with the troops. If you are a freelancer, you have to apply through the Pentagon directly. There were a limited number of slots available for all news agencies from all particpating nations.

I applied for one of the freelance slots about a month ago. I figured: "What the hell? Can't hurt to try." Two weeks ago I was notified by them I was approved. I'm guessing I was bumped up on the list because I'm a combat veteran, myself, and I have two sons serving over there right now (one an army scout, the other aboard U.S.S. Kitty Hawk). All I had to do was get a news agency or two to certify they'd use my stuff. Well, I had no trouble with that. But I couldn't get any of them to sponsor me (pay a salary and expenses), and I couldn't aford to do it on my own, so here I sit watching it on the tube like the rest of the world. I'm guessing they gave my slot to someone else by now.

BTW: I saw a thing on MSNBC tonight about Peter Arnett's coverage from Baghdad. Several times they showed his cameraman... and his XL1s!

Chris Hurd · March 24th, 2003, 03:18 AM

No doubt about it, DV is all over the Gulf. Lots of PD150's visible on the desert news as well.

The videophone is amazing technology, but it's looking like the resolution is 160x120? Anyboody know?

Zac Stein · March 24th, 2003, 09:29 AM

Adrian Douglas,

If you are from Melbourne, when you come back i would happy to help you out with the docu.

Zac

K. Forman · March 24th, 2003, 10:00 AM

Possibly the surest way to get sent to cover events like that, would be to get caught with the boss' daughter?

Tor Salomonsen · March 24th, 2003, 10:27 AM

<<<-- Originally posted by Keith Forman : Possibly the surest way to get sent to cover events like that, would be to get caught with the boss' daughter? -->>>

One of the good things about this forum is the full name requirement - so that some kinds of cheap or dirty comments are avoided - thought I. I mean if the current Iraq war is about abiding or not abiding by UN resolutions, you have just violated articles one and two of the human rights declaration:
1. All human beings are born free and equal in dignity and rights...
2. Everyone is entitled to all the rights and freedoms set forth in this Declaration, without distinction of any kind, such as race, colour, sex, language, religion, political or other opinion, national or social origin, property, birth or other status. ...

I know nothing about your boss or your boss' daughter. And you know nothing about mine.

Keith Loh · March 24th, 2003, 11:40 AM

Relax. He made a joke that was meant in fun. It may not have translated across very well.

K. Forman · March 24th, 2003, 01:51 PM

I say what I say for one of two reasons-
1)It was meant to be a joke
2)It is a valid fact befitting the topic
If it doesn't fit with catagory 2, then it was probably a joke. Either way, I am not shy, or embarrassed, nor will I be.

I will not, however, make light of anyone, based soley on their sex, race, or religion. I will treat ALL people equally.

Tor Salomonsen · March 24th, 2003, 02:27 PM

Okay, maybe I'm a bit jumpy and my reaction was heavier than strictly neccessary. I know it was meant to be a joke. But it was a sexist joke and the whole point I wanted to make was that I thought the world had progressed beyond that level. Or rather I hoped it had.

Keith Loh · March 24th, 2003, 02:31 PM

This board is a bit of a boy's club... :)

Ivan Hedley Enger · March 24th, 2003, 02:51 PM

Keep on making jokes Keith, I think it is very important to make people laugh a little bit. This world is much to serious already, and in times like this it can help us relax a little bit.

Please excuse me but I just want to say some words in norwegian to Tor (Nothing serious, just a welcome).

Velkommen ombord Tor, det er hyggelig med en landsmann her!

Ivan

K. Forman · March 24th, 2003, 03:11 PM

Keith and Ivan- Thank you for recognising my humor. It isn't always understood, but never meant to hurt. Usually, 9 out of 10 people understand when I am having fun, and most just chuckle.

Tor- Just having fun, and not directed at anyone, of any sex. I have NEVER violated ANY U.N. agreements... yet. And they never even invited me to join! ( That was another joke :)

If you don't have fun, what do you have? ( Paul- this is another quote that has been copyrighted, patented, and trademarked. You can't use this one either :)

Felix Jones · March 24th, 2003, 03:34 PM

Imagine a world without humour.

Nuff Said.

March 23rd, 2003, 09:43 PM	#1
Scott Silverman Major Player Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Cupertino, California, USA Posts: 301	Cameraman in Iraq? Does anyone know how the cameramen, photographers, and journalists in Iraq were selected to be sent over? Did the news stations take volunteers of their reporters? Did they choose their best ones? It sounds like a wonderful experience, despite the dangers. It is actually something I would love to pursue someday. I saw a live broadcast of a reporter stationed with some U.S. troops. The broadcast was from a moving Bradley Fighting Vehicle. It was amazing. They must have had a portable dish relaying live video to a satellite . Is that how they would do something like that? Thanks! __________________ Scott Silverman Shining Star Digital Video Productions Bay Area, CA

March 23rd, 2003, 10:12 PM	#2
Adrian Douglas Trustee Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Chigasaki, Japan. Posts: 1,660	Having been in active military situations Scott, I can tell you from experience it downright bloody frightening. However, when you return and reflect on your experience, you are a better person for the most. I wish now that I had had my XL1 during my time so I could have documented it all. I am actually thinking about shooting a documentary about my old squadron when I return to Australia. As to how the networks choose who goes, I can't help you that much. My guess would be they would have certain people trained to work under those conditions. You certainly don't take some Joe reporter off the street and drop him in a war zone. There was a link to an article that talked about the technology being used in Iraq/Kuwait, but I can't seem to find it. __________________ Adrian DVInfo.net Search for quick answers Where to buy? From the best in the business...DVInfo.net sponsors

March 24th, 2003, 02:20 AM	#4
Guest Posts: n/a	Iraq If you were employed by a news agency they would have applied for a slot to have you embed with the troops. If you are a freelancer, you have to apply through the Pentagon directly. There were a limited number of slots available for all news agencies from all particpating nations. I applied for one of the freelance slots about a month ago. I figured: "What the hell? Can't hurt to try." Two weeks ago I was notified by them I was approved. I'm guessing I was bumped up on the list because I'm a combat veteran, myself, and I have two sons serving over there right now (one an army scout, the other aboard U.S.S. Kitty Hawk). All I had to do was get a news agency or two to certify they'd use my stuff. Well, I had no trouble with that. But I couldn't get any of them to sponsor me (pay a salary and expenses), and I couldn't aford to do it on my own, so here I sit watching it on the tube like the rest of the world. I'm guessing they gave my slot to someone else by now. BTW: I saw a thing on MSNBC tonight about Peter Arnett's coverage from Baghdad. Several times they showed his cameraman... and his XL1s!

March 24th, 2003, 03:18 AM	#5
Chris Hurd Obstreperous Rex Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: San Marcos, TX Posts: 27,368 Images: 513	No doubt about it, DV is all over the Gulf. Lots of PD150's visible on the desert news as well. The videophone is amazing technology, but it's looking like the resolution is 160x120? Anyboody know? __________________ CH Search DV Info Net \| 20 years of DVi \| ...Tuesday is Soylent Green Day!

March 24th, 2003, 11:40 AM	#9
Keith Loh Air China Pilot Join Date: May 2002 Location: Vancouver, B.C. Posts: 2,389	Relax. He made a joke that was meant in fun. It may not have translated across very well. __________________ -- Visit http://www.KeithLoh.com \| stuff about living in Vancouver \| My Flickr photo gallery

March 24th, 2003, 12:44 AM	#3
Matt Stahley Major Player Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Waynesboro, PA Posts: 648	heres a link http://www.poynter.org/content/conte...w.asp?id=23585

March 24th, 2003, 09:29 AM	#6
Zac Stein Major Player Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 730	Adrian Douglas, If you are from Melbourne, when you come back i would happy to help you out with the docu. Zac

March 24th, 2003, 10:00 AM	#7
K. Forman Capt. Quirk Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Middle of the woods in Georgia Posts: 3,596	Possibly the surest way to get sent to cover events like that, would be to get caught with the boss' daughter?

March 24th, 2003, 10:27 AM	#8
Tor Salomonsen Major Player Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Stavanger, Norway Posts: 265	<<<-- Originally posted by Keith Forman : Possibly the surest way to get sent to cover events like that, would be to get caught with the boss' daughter? -->>> One of the good things about this forum is the full name requirement - so that some kinds of cheap or dirty comments are avoided - thought I. I mean if the current Iraq war is about abiding or not abiding by UN resolutions, you have just violated articles one and two of the human rights declaration: 1. All human beings are born free and equal in dignity and rights... 2. Everyone is entitled to all the rights and freedoms set forth in this Declaration, without distinction of any kind, such as race, colour, sex, language, religion, political or other opinion, national or social origin, property, birth or other status. ... I know nothing about your boss or your boss' daughter. And you know nothing about mine.

March 24th, 2003, 01:51 PM	#10
K. Forman Capt. Quirk Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Middle of the woods in Georgia Posts: 3,596	I say what I say for one of two reasons- 1)It was meant to be a joke 2)It is a valid fact befitting the topic If it doesn't fit with catagory 2, then it was probably a joke. Either way, I am not shy, or embarrassed, nor will I be. I will not, however, make light of anyone, based soley on their sex, race, or religion. I will treat ALL people equally.

March 24th, 2003, 02:27 PM	#11
Tor Salomonsen Major Player Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Stavanger, Norway Posts: 265	Okay, maybe I'm a bit jumpy and my reaction was heavier than strictly neccessary. I know it was meant to be a joke. But it was a sexist joke and the whole point I wanted to make was that I thought the world had progressed beyond that level. Or rather I hoped it had.

March 24th, 2003, 02:31 PM	#12
Keith Loh Air China Pilot Join Date: May 2002 Location: Vancouver, B.C. Posts: 2,389	This board is a bit of a boy's club... :) __________________ -- Visit http://www.KeithLoh.com \| stuff about living in Vancouver \| My Flickr photo gallery

March 24th, 2003, 02:51 PM	#13
Ivan Hedley Enger Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Vestfold in Norway Posts: 103	Keep on making jokes Keith, I think it is very important to make people laugh a little bit. This world is much to serious already, and in times like this it can help us relax a little bit. Please excuse me but I just want to say some words in norwegian to Tor (Nothing serious, just a welcome). Velkommen ombord Tor, det er hyggelig med en landsmann her! Ivan

March 24th, 2003, 03:11 PM	#14
K. Forman Capt. Quirk Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Middle of the woods in Georgia Posts: 3,596	Keith and Ivan- Thank you for recognising my humor. It isn't always understood, but never meant to hurt. Usually, 9 out of 10 people understand when I am having fun, and most just chuckle. Tor- Just having fun, and not directed at anyone, of any sex. I have NEVER violated ANY U.N. agreements... yet. And they never even invited me to join! ( That was another joke :) If you don't have fun, what do you have? ( Paul- this is another quote that has been copyrighted, patented, and trademarked. You can't use this one either :)

March 24th, 2003, 03:34 PM	#15
Felix Jones Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Auckland, NZ. Posts: 60	Imagine a world without humour. Nuff Said.