Family Flicks Outperform R-Rated Titles at DVinfo.net

Christopher C. Murphy · March 15th, 2005, 03:16 PM

I think it's cool, but we all know that it's a trend. Everything swings in this world.

So, now is a good time to dust off that kid oriented screenplay! I wish that I had one, but all my stuff is definately R-rated.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...llywood_s_year

Gary McClurg · March 15th, 2005, 03:33 PM

G, PG-13 films have out perform R films at the box office for years.

K. Forman · March 15th, 2005, 03:37 PM

Christopher- You really wanna work on a kid flick? I have a good story, about half done, before I ran out of gas...

Christopher C. Murphy · March 15th, 2005, 03:58 PM

Lol, I've actually got one that I forgot about...been working on it for years now. It's actually gotten rave reviews from my friends and family.

The Real Santa

It's a Christmas story about a little boy, Cris, in a small town that gets picked on in school. He befriends an old man man living in the woods who's been discarded by the town and society. The boy begins to learn the art of woodworking and also how to deal with the local bullies. While on this journey through self-discovery the boy ultimately learns of a special secret. The old man isn't really who the boy thinks he is...or is he?

Luis Caffesse · March 15th, 2005, 04:00 PM

"G, PG-13 films have out perform R films at the box office for years"

Yeah, is this really news?
I always assumed that 'family films' were outperforming R films. Seems like on the average people would go see an R film with a friend or a spouse, while 'Family Films' means that people are taking 2 or 3 kids with them at a time.

Just seems like it would be easier to pack a theater for a kids film than an R rated movie.

Imran Zaidi · March 15th, 2005, 04:09 PM

Definitely no surprise. How else can you explain a film like The Pacifier having a $30million weekend? Didn't they already make Kindergarten Cop? And also the one with Hulk Hogan. Big tough guy, fish out of water, learns to be soft. Wahoo!

Richard Alvarez · March 15th, 2005, 04:15 PM

Interesting statistic, epecially when you consider the highest grossing R rated film of all time.

The Passion.

Wonder if they consider that a 'family' film.

Luis Caffesse · March 15th, 2005, 04:33 PM

Imdb has a list of the top grossing movies of all time, I thought those in this discussion might be interested:

http://us.imdb.com/boxoffice/alltimegross

Just glancing over it, it seems clear that R rated movies are in the minority on that list.

On the USA box office list, 'The Passion' is at #9.
If you look at the worldwide box office list, you don't see a rated R film until "Matrix Reloaded' at #18

Bob Costa · March 16th, 2005, 12:45 AM

What happens to the stats if you remove the bigbox animated films and Harry Potter (which was a unique phenomenon of book before movie)? The real truth is that if they made an animated R/X movie, it would top the list !! Flesh Gordon, where are you?? LOL

Richard Alvarez · March 16th, 2005, 07:56 AM

JOhn, your age is showing! I recall Flesh Gordon... what a hoot!

Joe Carney · March 16th, 2005, 04:48 PM

The movie that put Candy Samples on the map. And silicon free.

Ian Poirier · March 17th, 2005, 08:14 AM

Don't forget just about every R-rated script heading into hollywood is being shot and reworked to be PG-13. As is you can basically throw in a couple f-bombs, a bunch of "shit"s or "asshole"s, have a tons of people shot or die horribly and still make the PG13 rating. Show a boob a though and it's on. R-rating only. It's stupid. Hollywood makes everything PG-13 because that's the demographic with the most money. Just go to your local multiplex on a friday night and see how many of the moviegoers are getting dropped off by thier parents. Not that thats bad, kids should have good movies to see, but it is sometimes at the cost of a good screenplay being made more palatable or allowing more violence into a film than the rating would imply. It's all money.

Oh, yeah, Flesh Gordon rules!

Rob Yannetta · April 1st, 2005, 03:52 PM

It's all about money. They can make more money on a flick with a PG-13 than an R (Historically true).

As an indie releasing everything under a freebie Creative Commons licence, I can comfortably say I can make my movies MY way the first time.

K. Forman · April 1st, 2005, 04:11 PM

And don't forget the marketing scheme for residual sales, where even more money is made. Look at all the Harry Potter toys, Spidey action figures, video games, posters, underwear... What adult would buy that kind of stuff? The Hulk was PG or so, and sucked in the Box Office. It cleaned up afterwards in the toy aisles.

Gary McClurg · April 1st, 2005, 06:05 PM

The toys, that's what made good ole George rich, not the movies.

He kept the rights to the toys, games, etc. Some say why do you think Jar Jar was in their, for the kids.

March 15th, 2005, 03:37 PM	#3
K. Forman Capt. Quirk Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Middle of the woods in Georgia Posts: 3,596	Christopher- You really wanna work on a kid flick? I have a good story, about half done, before I ran out of gas... __________________ www.SmokeWagonLeather.us

March 15th, 2005, 03:58 PM	#4
Christopher C. Murphy Trustee Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 1,707	Lol, I've actually got one that I forgot about...been working on it for years now. It's actually gotten rave reviews from my friends and family. The Real Santa It's a Christmas story about a little boy, Cris, in a small town that gets picked on in school. He befriends an old man man living in the woods who's been discarded by the town and society. The boy begins to learn the art of woodworking and also how to deal with the local bullies. While on this journey through self-discovery the boy ultimately learns of a special secret. The old man isn't really who the boy thinks he is...or is he? __________________ Christopher C. Murphy Director, Producer, Writer

March 15th, 2005, 04:00 PM	#5
Luis Caffesse Major Player Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Austin, Texas Posts: 704	"G, PG-13 films have out perform R films at the box office for years" Yeah, is this really news? I always assumed that 'family films' were outperforming R films. Seems like on the average people would go see an R film with a friend or a spouse, while 'Family Films' means that people are taking 2 or 3 kids with them at a time. Just seems like it would be easier to pack a theater for a kids film than an R rated movie. __________________ Luis Caffesse Pitch Productions Austin, Texas

March 15th, 2005, 04:33 PM	#8
Luis Caffesse Major Player Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Austin, Texas Posts: 704	Imdb has a list of the top grossing movies of all time, I thought those in this discussion might be interested: http://us.imdb.com/boxoffice/alltimegross Just glancing over it, it seems clear that R rated movies are in the minority on that list. On the USA box office list, 'The Passion' is at #9. If you look at the worldwide box office list, you don't see a rated R film until "Matrix Reloaded' at #18 __________________ Luis Caffesse Pitch Productions Austin, Texas

April 1st, 2005, 03:52 PM	#13
Rob Yannetta Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: St. Petersburg, FL Posts: 85	It's all about money. They can make more money on a flick with a PG-13 than an R (Historically true). As an indie releasing everything under a freebie Creative Commons licence, I can comfortably say I can make my movies MY way the first time. __________________ Robert M Yannetta, Loud Orange Cat Productions http://LoudOrangeCat.com

March 15th, 2005, 03:16 PM	#1
Christopher C. Murphy Trustee Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 1,707	Family Flicks Outperform R-Rated Titles I think it's cool, but we all know that it's a trend. Everything swings in this world. So, now is a good time to dust off that kid oriented screenplay! I wish that I had one, but all my stuff is definately R-rated. http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...llywood_s_year __________________ Christopher C. Murphy Director, Producer, Writer

March 15th, 2005, 03:33 PM	#2
Gary McClurg Major Player Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Springfield, MO, USA Posts: 389	G, PG-13 films have out perform R films at the box office for years.

March 15th, 2005, 04:09 PM	#6
Imran Zaidi Trustee Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 1,315	Definitely no surprise. How else can you explain a film like The Pacifier having a $30million weekend? Didn't they already make Kindergarten Cop? And also the one with Hulk Hogan. Big tough guy, fish out of water, learns to be soft. Wahoo!

March 15th, 2005, 04:15 PM	#7
Richard Alvarez Inner Circle Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: San Mateo, CA Posts: 3,840	Interesting statistic, epecially when you consider the highest grossing R rated film of all time. The Passion. Wonder if they consider that a 'family' film.

March 16th, 2005, 12:45 AM	#9
Bob Costa Major Player Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Venice, FL Posts: 850	What happens to the stats if you remove the bigbox animated films and Harry Potter (which was a unique phenomenon of book before movie)? The real truth is that if they made an animated R/X movie, it would top the list !! Flesh Gordon, where are you?? LOL

March 16th, 2005, 07:56 AM	#10
Richard Alvarez Inner Circle Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: San Mateo, CA Posts: 3,840	JOhn, your age is showing! I recall Flesh Gordon... what a hoot!

March 16th, 2005, 04:48 PM	#11
Joe Carney Inner Circle Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Centreville Va Posts: 1,828	The movie that put Candy Samples on the map. And silicon free.

March 17th, 2005, 08:14 AM	#12
Ian Poirier Regular Crew Join Date: May 2003 Location: Rhode Island Posts: 82	Don't forget just about every R-rated script heading into hollywood is being shot and reworked to be PG-13. As is you can basically throw in a couple f-bombs, a bunch of "shit"s or "asshole"s, have a tons of people shot or die horribly and still make the PG13 rating. Show a boob a though and it's on. R-rating only. It's stupid. Hollywood makes everything PG-13 because that's the demographic with the most money. Just go to your local multiplex on a friday night and see how many of the moviegoers are getting dropped off by thier parents. Not that thats bad, kids should have good movies to see, but it is sometimes at the cost of a good screenplay being made more palatable or allowing more violence into a film than the rating would imply. It's all money. Oh, yeah, Flesh Gordon rules!

April 1st, 2005, 04:11 PM	#14
K. Forman Capt. Quirk Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Middle of the woods in Georgia Posts: 3,596	And don't forget the marketing scheme for residual sales, where even more money is made. Look at all the Harry Potter toys, Spidey action figures, video games, posters, underwear... What adult would buy that kind of stuff? The Hulk was PG or so, and sucked in the Box Office. It cleaned up afterwards in the toy aisles. __________________ www.SmokeWagonLeather.us

April 1st, 2005, 06:05 PM	#15
Gary McClurg Major Player Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Springfield, MO, USA Posts: 389	The toys, that's what made good ole George rich, not the movies. He kept the rights to the toys, games, etc. Some say why do you think Jar Jar was in their, for the kids.