Shallow Waste Bin project :( at DVinfo.net

Aram Bauman · February 4th, 2005, 04:36 PM

Sooooo check this out, I happen to see this ad on craigslist i think about this project and how film makers can get together and make films and share resources. So I sign up just to check it out and maybe offer some help with my crew and possibly do something together. Seemed friendly enough. I sign up, get an email to a meet and greet and an email to a forum. Everything is fine. I go to the meet and greet, talk to a few people and the next day I go to post on this forum and say thanks for the evening and was glad to meet some of them and I cant get on. I try and try and then I says im banned. So i email an admin and they tell me that No other film companies can be a part of this like im going to go and take there talent or something. Then I get an email from the guy sam who runs it saying basically why would our guys want to hang with your guys? Well he actually said would McDonalds employees go hang at the Burger King lounge?
WTF?
Is this what the new age of film makers are going to be like?
I believe this community is tight and everyone helps everyone else out no matter where they come from or who they are part of, am I correct or am I just old school?
I just had to let that out because its the first time something like this has happened. I thought reaching out to another local place was only to build stronger relations.
Man I hope this isnt a hint for more to come.

Mark Sasahara · February 4th, 2005, 10:00 PM

Heh, ya musta scared 'em!

This is New york, Lotsa a-holes and some decent folks as well. Just consider this winnowing the chaff. As I go along I meet people. Some I want to work with again, some I'd just as soon forget, but pray they won't completely f-up the project. We meet all kinds.

But you gotta make nice.

Sometimes you work on something that is really great, sometimes you work on something to collect a check. Such is the life of a freelancer.

Charles Papert · February 6th, 2005, 11:19 AM

When I used to play in local bands years ago, it usually went like this: bunch of friends get together and decide they are going to take over the world with their music. We spent a lot of time rehearsing, getting the material ready, and promoting the band. Occasionally a rivalry would spring up with another band and the result would be trash talking, stapling over each other's flyers (once it even came to ripping down flyers, really ugly) and the like. I never understood it myself, chalked it up to the testosterone levels and competitiveness of some of my bandmates (they were big into sports, too). Generally though, there was pretty good sense of community.

Sounds just like this sort of thing is happening with the indie film boom. You put a bunch of young guys on a team and as soon as they feel threatened by another team (as Mark indicated), it's on. It's weird to think that filmmaking is anything like a basketball game, but the mentality can be the same.

Aram Bauman · February 7th, 2005, 03:09 AM

I find it weird because I have never had this experience before. Seems like most people are willing to help and are friendly. Every camera person I know has said hey if you need any help just give me a shout. Same with sound guys, pretty much anyone for that matter. I do the same. Give me a shout if you need help with anything. Oh well. Not everyone wants to play nice. Wow, only 3 posts. I could have sworn I posted a few times more at least. Am I just a lurker? :P

February 4th, 2005, 04:36 PM	#1
Aram Bauman Regular Crew Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: NYC Posts: 41	Shallow Waste Bin project :( Sooooo check this out, I happen to see this ad on craigslist i think about this project and how film makers can get together and make films and share resources. So I sign up just to check it out and maybe offer some help with my crew and possibly do something together. Seemed friendly enough. I sign up, get an email to a meet and greet and an email to a forum. Everything is fine. I go to the meet and greet, talk to a few people and the next day I go to post on this forum and say thanks for the evening and was glad to meet some of them and I cant get on. I try and try and then I says im banned. So i email an admin and they tell me that No other film companies can be a part of this like im going to go and take there talent or something. Then I get an email from the guy sam who runs it saying basically why would our guys want to hang with your guys? Well he actually said would McDonalds employees go hang at the Burger King lounge? WTF? Is this what the new age of film makers are going to be like? I believe this community is tight and everyone helps everyone else out no matter where they come from or who they are part of, am I correct or am I just old school? I just had to let that out because its the first time something like this has happened. I thought reaching out to another local place was only to build stronger relations. Man I hope this isnt a hint for more to come.

February 4th, 2005, 10:00 PM	#2
Mark Sasahara Major Player Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: NYC Posts: 649	Heh, ya musta scared 'em! This is New york, Lotsa a-holes and some decent folks as well. Just consider this winnowing the chaff. As I go along I meet people. Some I want to work with again, some I'd just as soon forget, but pray they won't completely f-up the project. We meet all kinds. But you gotta make nice. Sometimes you work on something that is really great, sometimes you work on something to collect a check. Such is the life of a freelancer. __________________ Mark Sasahara Director of Photography

February 6th, 2005, 11:19 AM	#3
Charles Papert Wrangler Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 6,810	When I used to play in local bands years ago, it usually went like this: bunch of friends get together and decide they are going to take over the world with their music. We spent a lot of time rehearsing, getting the material ready, and promoting the band. Occasionally a rivalry would spring up with another band and the result would be trash talking, stapling over each other's flyers (once it even came to ripping down flyers, really ugly) and the like. I never understood it myself, chalked it up to the testosterone levels and competitiveness of some of my bandmates (they were big into sports, too). Generally though, there was pretty good sense of community. Sounds just like this sort of thing is happening with the indie film boom. You put a bunch of young guys on a team and as soon as they feel threatened by another team (as Mark indicated), it's on. It's weird to think that filmmaking is anything like a basketball game, but the mentality can be the same. __________________ Charles Papert www.charlespapert.com

February 7th, 2005, 03:09 AM	#4
Aram Bauman Regular Crew Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: NYC Posts: 41	I find it weird because I have never had this experience before. Seems like most people are willing to help and are friendly. Every camera person I know has said hey if you need any help just give me a shout. Same with sound guys, pretty much anyone for that matter. I do the same. Give me a shout if you need help with anything. Oh well. Not everyone wants to play nice. Wow, only 3 posts. I could have sworn I posted a few times more at least. Am I just a lurker? :P