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Glenn Gipson · August 26th, 2004, 09:51 AM

But weren't Clerks and El Mariachi shot on 16mm, and not Super 16mm? And isn't 16mm's aspect ratio less then 16:9? Isn't it 4:3?

Jesse Bekas · September 1st, 2004, 01:25 AM

http://www.24fps.com/Article/Alpha/4...20is%20super16

That should answer your questions about the 16mm aspect ratios. I thought "El Mariachi", was supposed to be all digital? Clerks was shot on 16mm.

Rob Lohman · September 1st, 2004, 03:59 AM

Jesse you are mixing things up, Rodriguez's trilogy consists of:

- El Mariachi
- Desperado
- Once Upon A Time In Mexico

The last one was completely shot digitally, the first two where
shot on film where the first was shot on 16mm (don't know which form)

John Britt · September 1st, 2004, 08:43 AM

El Mariachi was originally released at a 4:3 ratio -- Rodriguez makes a comment on the DVD commentary about how the Collector's Edition "Widescreen" DVD release of E.M. actually crops out the top and bottom of the original film, so you're actually seeing less than what was intended. Rodriguez had originally intended E.M. to be a straight-to-Mexican-video release, so he shot with TV aspect ratio in mind.

Glenn Gipson · September 1st, 2004, 09:24 AM

Thanks John. Back in the late 80s and early 90s, it was not unusual for indie films to be shot in 16mm (4:3), and that was OK. But now, with DV, 16:9 has somehow become crucial for the film look. I wonder if this is merely due to DV movie makers trying to hard.

August 26th, 2004, 09:51 AM	#1
Glenn Gipson Major Player Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Plainfield, New Jersey Posts: 927	Correct me if I'm wrong.... But weren't Clerks and El Mariachi shot on 16mm, and not Super 16mm? And isn't 16mm's aspect ratio less then 16:9? Isn't it 4:3?

September 1st, 2004, 03:59 AM	#3
Rob Lohman RED Code Chef Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Holland Posts: 12,514	Jesse you are mixing things up, Rodriguez's trilogy consists of: - El Mariachi - Desperado - Once Upon A Time In Mexico The last one was completely shot digitally, the first two where shot on film where the first was shot on 16mm (don't know which form) __________________ Rob Lohman, visuar@iname.com DV Info Wrangler & RED Code Chef Join the DV Challenge \| Lady X Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Buy from the best: DVinfo.net sponsors

September 1st, 2004, 01:25 AM	#2
Jesse Bekas Major Player Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Ridgefield Park, New Jersey, USA Posts: 572	http://www.24fps.com/Article/Alpha/4...20is%20super16 That should answer your questions about the 16mm aspect ratios. I thought "El Mariachi", was supposed to be all digital? Clerks was shot on 16mm.

September 1st, 2004, 08:43 AM	#4
John Britt Major Player Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 621	El Mariachi was originally released at a 4:3 ratio -- Rodriguez makes a comment on the DVD commentary about how the Collector's Edition "Widescreen" DVD release of E.M. actually crops out the top and bottom of the original film, so you're actually seeing less than what was intended. Rodriguez had originally intended E.M. to be a straight-to-Mexican-video release, so he shot with TV aspect ratio in mind.

September 1st, 2004, 09:24 AM	#5
Glenn Gipson Major Player Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Plainfield, New Jersey Posts: 927	Thanks John. Back in the late 80s and early 90s, it was not unusual for indie films to be shot in 16mm (4:3), and that was OK. But now, with DV, 16:9 has somehow become crucial for the film look. I wonder if this is merely due to DV movie makers trying to hard.