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June 17th, 2004, 04:54 PM | #16 | |
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I've tried to write a lot more these days, and it is definitely tough. I'm in the Agathie Christie camp: I usually hate writing it, but I love that I even have a few relatively finished scripts. I always approach it like a sculpture. You can't sculpt the clay into something good unless you have clay to begin with. With that in mind, I try to write unmediated and get everything out on the first run. Even if it's terrible, at least I have something to revise. |
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June 17th, 2004, 05:11 PM | #17 |
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Hey Alex, I see you're in Vancouver.
Ever thought of submitting your script to Praxis?
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July 14th, 2004, 08:44 AM | #18 |
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Finally, I got a response to my submission. It only took four weeks but he's been working on a Disney project. As it turns out, he accidentally deleted Acts 2 and 3 so he only read Act 1. Arrgh.
His comments: "It's very readable--moves quickly, the dialogue is natural and flows quite well, interesting and well-drawn characters. You obviously know a lot about the subject. I like the main character and the way he's a bit of a jerk, I like the setting, I like where I think the story is going. " The bad is he thinks my scene descriptions are overly long and I need more white space. The problem I have with that is the scenes are very visual and technical and I'm not sure how else to write them. More importantly, he said that it's "definitely worth working on" the fixes and resending him Acts 2 and 3. Anyway, I thought I'd let you know where it is and I'm back to work. |
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That is wonderful! Keep us posted and Ill keep my fingers crossed for you!
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July 15th, 2004, 08:29 PM | #20 |
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"White space" is good. I forget where I read a description of how to create white space... but it started with a typically overwritten description of a motel room. The paragraph was seven or eight lines long, explaining the stains on the bedspread, the tacky painting on the wall over the bed, the mismatched lampshades and the cigarette burns on the carpet.
Now, the same paragraph written the correct way - INT:MOTEL ROOM Crummy I tell my screenwriting students that if a picture is worth ten thousand words, in screenwriting every word has to be worth ten thousand pictures. "Stop thinking epic poetry, and start thinking Haiku". This is usually what I do in the rewrite. I go through the long loving descriptions of scene or action, and try to cut them in half. What can I say that will convey this concept in the least ammount of EFFECTIVE words. Think Raymond Chandler. "She gave him a look you could pour on a waffle." - Entertaining, instructive, visual and you get an insight into the character. Kudos for the compliments you received. Take them seriously and pat yourself on the back. Keep going, keep writing. |
July 15th, 2004, 08:52 PM | #21 |
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Congratulations, Rob! Keep us posted.
Keith: I haven't looked into it yet, but that's a good idea. I'm a Film major at SFU right now so I think we actually get our script reviewed by them in 4th year. |
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<<<-- Originally posted by Richard Alvarez : "White space" is good. I forget where I read a description of how to create white space... but it started with a typically overwritten description of a motel room. The paragraph was seven or eight lines long, explaining the stains on the bedspread, the tacky painting on the wall over the bed, the mismatched lampshades and the cigarette burns on the carpet.
Now, the same paragraph written the correct way - INT:MOTEL ROOM Shitty I tell my screenwriting students that if a picture is worth ten thousand words, in screenwriting every word has to be worth ten thousand pictures. "Stop thinking epic poetry, and start thinking Haiku". This is usually what I do in the rewrite. I go through the long loving descriptions of scene or action, and try to cut them in half. What can I say that will convey this concept in the least ammount of EFFECTIVE words. Think Raymond Chandler. "She gave him a look you could pour on a waffle." - Entertaining, instructive, visual and you get an insight into the character. Kudos for the compliments you received. Take them seriously and pat yourself on the back. Keep going, keep writing. -->>> Thanks for insight. Makes sense to me and my screenplays always have action that just drones on and on. Next time Ill keep this in mind. |
July 16th, 2004, 12:43 PM | #23 |
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Alex, Praxis also takes interns who become Story Editors. The head of Praxis is Patricia Gruben so you may have already had her as a professor. Sweet lady.
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I agree whole-heartedly about keeping it lean, but don't go overboard. Take a look at some scripts from great films and you'll see that verbose descriptions are pretty common. Take this opening sequence from "Thelma and Louise" for instance:
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Read other scripts (the "scripts"...not the transcriptions)... that's the way to get your finger on the pulse of what will and won't sell. |
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July 22nd, 2004, 09:54 AM | #25 |
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Both those scripts were written by the film's directors. So, they want to be as visual descriptive as possible and include camera movement, etc as you saw in the last one. Spielberg did the same on films that he wrote and directed.
Anyways, there are really no rules. Just get the formatting right....most of these people that read the scripts are 22 year old story-editors trying to work their way up the showbiz ladder. |
August 27th, 2004, 05:15 PM | #26 |
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The hardest part is to think like a writer not a director. It used to be when I'd get bogged down in a scene 7 out of 10 times its because I'm trying to direct it. Now it happens 3 to 10 times so I'm getting better.
Also the best advice I ever got was from Oscar winner David Ward over lunch one day. Now remember these are his words not mine. "F**K, the studio, f**k the producer, f**k the director, f**K your friends and write for yourself." Taking his advice I rewrote a draft the way I wanted and the scirpt became a 200% better. Now once they buy it that's another story. |
August 27th, 2004, 05:32 PM | #27 |
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Good advice Gary.
My last script went through a great review process. At the very end of it my Producer mentor told me that the chances of my script getting produced were nil but that I have to finish it as a calling card. He said that, ironically, scripts that are used for calling cards have to be much more polished than scripts that are actually produced. I originally wrote that script just for myself and it got enough attention that I owe it to myself to make it even better. That's what all writers have to do. Write the best script possible. The rest is up to fate, other people, money.
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