One reason to hate unions... at DVinfo.net

John Britt · April 9th, 2004, 12:08 PM

Variety via Kevin Smith's Movie Poop Shoot:

http://www.moviepoopshoot.com/news/apr04/40.html

I'll bet that things get cleared up pretty quickly, but it does raise interesting questions about the DGA and its rules. Another example, in my opinion, why more interesting movies get made outside of the system...

(by the way, have you seen the Once Upon a Time in Mexico DVD? The "Inside Troublemaker Studios" bonus featurette? I don't even have a *garage*, much less a mouth-watering home studio like that!)

Ken Tanaka · April 9th, 2004, 12:28 PM

What about this story prompts you to "hate unions"? To me it simply looks like Robert Rodriguez routinely gets into and out of the Directors' Guild as it suits his needs, much as he might don a suit.

John Britt · April 9th, 2004, 12:41 PM

<<<-- Originally posted by Ken Tanaka : What about this story prompts you to "hate unions"? To me it simply looks like Robert Rodriguez routinely gets into and out of the Directors' Guild as it suits his needs, much as he might don a suit. -->>>

OK, so hate is a strong word, but your reply just further shows the uselessness of the DGA.

I'm all for the rights of *any* worker, but organizations such as this become so byzantine and arbitrary in their actions that they become useless.

I don't want this to become a political thread, so feel free to change the title of this thread to something less seemingly baiting, like "Robert Rodririguez and the DGA" if need be.

Joe Carney · April 9th, 2004, 01:59 PM

just gamesmenship.
The guild indicated it has granted waivers in the past, and their reasoning is generally sound . The rules protect the existing director more than anything and prevents token figureheads from getting director credit. (and being nominated for anything)

Considering the sort of viscous politics that can surround any studio film I have to agree with them even if Rodriguez is sincere. There are plenty of options to give certain people special consideration in the films credits.

April 9th, 2004, 12:08 PM	#1
John Britt Major Player Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 621	One reason to hate unions... Variety via Kevin Smith's Movie Poop Shoot: http://www.moviepoopshoot.com/news/apr04/40.html I'll bet that things get cleared up pretty quickly, but it does raise interesting questions about the DGA and its rules. Another example, in my opinion, why more interesting movies get made outside of the system... (by the way, have you seen the Once Upon a Time in Mexico DVD? The "Inside Troublemaker Studios" bonus featurette? I don't even have a garage, much less a mouth-watering home studio like that!)

April 9th, 2004, 12:28 PM	#2
Ken Tanaka Retired DV Info Net Almunus Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 6,943	What about this story prompts you to "hate unions"? To me it simply looks like Robert Rodriguez routinely gets into and out of the Directors' Guild as it suits his needs, much as he might don a suit. __________________ Lady X Films: A lady with a boring wardrobe...and a global mission. Hey, you don't have enough stuff! Buy with confidence from our sponsors. Hand-picked as the best in the business...Really! See some of my work one frame at a time: www.KenTanaka.com

April 9th, 2004, 12:41 PM	#3
John Britt Major Player Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 621	<<<-- Originally posted by Ken Tanaka : What about this story prompts you to "hate unions"? To me it simply looks like Robert Rodriguez routinely gets into and out of the Directors' Guild as it suits his needs, much as he might don a suit. -->>> OK, so hate is a strong word, but your reply just further shows the uselessness of the DGA. I'm all for the rights of any worker, but organizations such as this become so byzantine and arbitrary in their actions that they become useless. I don't want this to become a political thread, so feel free to change the title of this thread to something less seemingly baiting, like "Robert Rodririguez and the DGA" if need be.

April 9th, 2004, 01:59 PM	#4
Joe Carney Inner Circle Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Centreville Va Posts: 1,828	just gamesmenship. The guild indicated it has granted waivers in the past, and their reasoning is generally sound . The rules protect the existing director more than anything and prevents token figureheads from getting director credit. (and being nominated for anything) Considering the sort of viscous politics that can surround any studio film I have to agree with them even if Rodriguez is sincere. There are plenty of options to give certain people special consideration in the films credits.