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Bob Zimmerman · February 28th, 2004, 11:18 AM

Your personal religion views aside. What do you think about this movie. Mel Gibson is a great moviemaker. Plus the stories about them making this movie are pretty good.

Chris Hurd · February 28th, 2004, 11:50 AM

We already had to ditch one thread on this topic due to inappropriate responses. Remember, religion is a taboo subject here at DV Info. Technical discussions only, please. Thank you,

Bob Zimmerman · February 28th, 2004, 02:42 PM

sorry Chris that's why I said those views aside. I'm sure there can be some points made about movie making!

Robert Knecht Schmidt · February 28th, 2004, 03:40 PM

I haven't seen the movie yet, but the clips played on Leno the past two nights didn't impress. Bizarre speed effects are one of my pet peeves--why did Mel Gibson feel that this movie needed to look like Braveheart and Gladiator? For example, in the betrayal/arrest, the scene abruptly transitions into artificial (post-generated) slow motion when Judas kisses Jesus, then jars back into regular speed for a line of dialogue. Then we're subjected to five or six in-camera slow motion close-ups of centurians. Then a post-generated ramp up to fast-motion for the ensuing skirmish, the camerawork straight out of Saving Private Ryan. A 30-second clip with no fewer than 10 changes in camera speed--it is the gospels or a Linkin Park video?

An interesting experiment: When it comes out on DVD, retime all the slow motion work to real time speed at home, and see if the film's running time doesn't end up at 30 minutes or so.

Michael Wisniewski · February 28th, 2004, 06:30 PM

I enjoyed the cinematography, well done for the subject matter.

I thought the slo-motion shots worked, but I think it was overdone at the end, some scenes became over-dramatic during the carrying of the cross, but they did end up highlighting some good images.

Even though I know the story, the movie was still suspenseful. Just when I thought it couldn't get worse, it did, and then it got even worse, I was cringing at several points in the movie. It's not hitchcock, it's more like watching Hell Raiser, but in reverse.

Gino Terribilini · March 1st, 2004, 04:01 PM

I haven't seen it yet.. low on funds. But my friend just saw it and he really liked it. He said it seems as though everybody in the theatre was crying except him. He's not really religious, but he said if its all true, he definately did a lot. I still want to see it sometime... maybe when it comes out on DVD...

Bob Zimmerman · March 2nd, 2004, 04:54 AM

$125 million for 5 days. It beat out Lord of the Rings.

John Heskett · March 2nd, 2004, 10:42 AM

<<<-- Originally posted by Chris Hurd : We already had to ditch one thread on this topic due to inappropriate responses. Remember, religion is a taboo subject here at DV Info. Technical discussions only, please. Thank you, -->>>

Is it not simpler to just make flame, disrespect, and personal attack taboo? It is obvious that politics are not taboo on DVI so why religion? The fact is everyone believes in something even if it is the DVX100. There is no real way to fairly off limits subcategories of opinion, and belief. Just my two cents Chris, but you seem to be taking the easy way out.

As for the movie, I want to see it for many reasons. One BIG reason is these kinds of movies in the past have been plagued with low production value. Even if the story was done right the production side ruined the movie. I want to see what big bucks and talent can do to in presenting the passion story. I only hope there is enough story left in there to carry all the visuals. I will probably see it next week.

Chris, thanks for all the hard work you put into this forum.

Keith Loh · March 2nd, 2004, 12:14 PM

//As for the movie, I want to see it for many reasons. One BIG reason is these kinds of movies in the past have been plagued with low production value. Even if the story was done right the production side ruined the movie. I want to see what big bucks and talent can do to in presenting the passion story. I only hope there is enough story left in there to carry all the visuals. I will probably see it next week.//

Surely, you don't mean this in the history of film. Biblical films used to be the "Star Wars" of their time and the most expensive movies.

Robert Knecht Schmidt · March 2nd, 2004, 03:13 PM

"It is obvious that politics are not taboo on DVI so why religion?"

All the Michael Moore threads were eventually locked up...

Dylan Couper · March 2nd, 2004, 03:44 PM

<<<-- Originally posted by John Heskett :
Is it not simpler to just make flame, disrespect, and personal attack taboo? It is obvious that politics are not taboo on DVI so why religion? -->>>

You sure you read the forum rules when you signed on? Politics are just as taboo as religion. Flames, and personal attacks are also not tolerated here.

Rob Belics · March 2nd, 2004, 04:20 PM

My biggest fear is someone will spoil the ending.

Jeff Donald · March 2nd, 2004, 04:23 PM

What, you didn't read the book?

Jim Wharton · March 2nd, 2004, 08:36 PM

I enjoyed the entire film, but, yes it did shuttle back and forth in the opening sequence ( slo-mo, fast, etc). Besides all that a very important furniture mystery was solved. Mel attemted to make a series of moving Carravagio paintings and I think he did just that.

Robert Knecht Schmidt · March 2nd, 2004, 08:38 PM

Does the movie establish which lucky son of a gun made off with the grail?

February 28th, 2004, 11:18 AM	#1
Bob Zimmerman Major Player Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Illinois Posts: 888	The Passion Your personal religion views aside. What do you think about this movie. Mel Gibson is a great moviemaker. Plus the stories about them making this movie are pretty good.

February 28th, 2004, 11:50 AM	#2
Chris Hurd Obstreperous Rex Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: San Marcos, TX Posts: 27,369 Images: 513	We already had to ditch one thread on this topic due to inappropriate responses. Remember, religion is a taboo subject here at DV Info. Technical discussions only, please. Thank you, __________________ CH Search DV Info Net \| 20 years of DVi \| ...Tuesday is Soylent Green Day!

February 28th, 2004, 03:40 PM	#4
Robert Knecht Schmidt Wrangler Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Cleveland, Ohio Posts: 1,933	I haven't seen the movie yet, but the clips played on Leno the past two nights didn't impress. Bizarre speed effects are one of my pet peeves--why did Mel Gibson feel that this movie needed to look like Braveheart and Gladiator? For example, in the betrayal/arrest, the scene abruptly transitions into artificial (post-generated) slow motion when Judas kisses Jesus, then jars back into regular speed for a line of dialogue. Then we're subjected to five or six in-camera slow motion close-ups of centurians. Then a post-generated ramp up to fast-motion for the ensuing skirmish, the camerawork straight out of Saving Private Ryan. A 30-second clip with no fewer than 10 changes in camera speed--it is the gospels or a Linkin Park video? An interesting experiment: When it comes out on DVD, retime all the slow motion work to real time speed at home, and see if the film's running time doesn't end up at 30 minutes or so. __________________ All the best, Robert K S Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| The best in the business: DVinfo.net sponsors

March 2nd, 2004, 10:42 AM	#8
John Heskett Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Terre Haute Indiana Posts: 181	<<<-- Originally posted by Chris Hurd : We already had to ditch one thread on this topic due to inappropriate responses. Remember, religion is a taboo subject here at DV Info. Technical discussions only, please. Thank you, -->>> Is it not simpler to just make flame, disrespect, and personal attack taboo? It is obvious that politics are not taboo on DVI so why religion? The fact is everyone believes in something even if it is the DVX100. There is no real way to fairly off limits subcategories of opinion, and belief. Just my two cents Chris, but you seem to be taking the easy way out. As for the movie, I want to see it for many reasons. One BIG reason is these kinds of movies in the past have been plagued with low production value. Even if the story was done right the production side ruined the movie. I want to see what big bucks and talent can do to in presenting the passion story. I only hope there is enough story left in there to carry all the visuals. I will probably see it next week. Chris, thanks for all the hard work you put into this forum. __________________ Illuminate the Vision

March 2nd, 2004, 12:14 PM	#9
Keith Loh Air China Pilot Join Date: May 2002 Location: Vancouver, B.C. Posts: 2,389	//As for the movie, I want to see it for many reasons. One BIG reason is these kinds of movies in the past have been plagued with low production value. Even if the story was done right the production side ruined the movie. I want to see what big bucks and talent can do to in presenting the passion story. I only hope there is enough story left in there to carry all the visuals. I will probably see it next week.// Surely, you don't mean this in the history of film. Biblical films used to be the "Star Wars" of their time and the most expensive movies. __________________ -- Visit http://www.KeithLoh.com \| stuff about living in Vancouver \| My Flickr photo gallery

February 28th, 2004, 02:42 PM	#3
Bob Zimmerman Major Player Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Illinois Posts: 888	sorry Chris that's why I said those views aside. I'm sure there can be some points made about movie making!

February 28th, 2004, 06:30 PM	#5
Michael Wisniewski Wrangler Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Makati, Metro Manila Posts: 2,706 Images: 32	I enjoyed the cinematography, well done for the subject matter. I thought the slo-motion shots worked, but I think it was overdone at the end, some scenes became over-dramatic during the carrying of the cross, but they did end up highlighting some good images. Even though I know the story, the movie was still suspenseful. Just when I thought it couldn't get worse, it did, and then it got even worse, I was cringing at several points in the movie. It's not hitchcock, it's more like watching Hell Raiser, but in reverse.

March 1st, 2004, 04:01 PM	#6
Gino Terribilini Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Santa Rosa, CA Posts: 91	I haven't seen it yet.. low on funds. But my friend just saw it and he really liked it. He said it seems as though everybody in the theatre was crying except him. He's not really religious, but he said if its all true, he definately did a lot. I still want to see it sometime... maybe when it comes out on DVD...

March 2nd, 2004, 04:54 AM	#7
Bob Zimmerman Major Player Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Illinois Posts: 888	$125 million for 5 days. It beat out Lord of the Rings.

March 2nd, 2004, 03:13 PM	#10
Robert Knecht Schmidt Wrangler Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Cleveland, Ohio Posts: 1,933	"It is obvious that politics are not taboo on DVI so why religion?" All the Michael Moore threads were eventually locked up... __________________ All the best, Robert K S Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| The best in the business: DVinfo.net sponsors

March 2nd, 2004, 03:44 PM	#11
Dylan Couper Wrangler Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Vancouver, British Columbia Posts: 8,314	<<<-- Originally posted by John Heskett : Is it not simpler to just make flame, disrespect, and personal attack taboo? It is obvious that politics are not taboo on DVI so why religion? -->>> You sure you read the forum rules when you signed on? Politics are just as taboo as religion. Flames, and personal attacks are also not tolerated here. __________________ Need to rent camera gear in Vancouver BC? Check me out at camerarentalsvancouver.com

March 2nd, 2004, 04:20 PM	#12
Rob Belics Major Player Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: St. Louis, MO Posts: 581	My biggest fear is someone will spoil the ending.

March 2nd, 2004, 04:23 PM	#13
Jeff Donald Warden Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Clearwater, FL Posts: 8,287	What, you didn't read the book? __________________ Jeff Donald Carpe Diem Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Where to Buy? From the best in the business: DVinfo.net sponsors

March 2nd, 2004, 08:36 PM	#14
Jim Wharton New Boot Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Crestline, Ca Posts: 21	I enjoyed the entire film, but, yes it did shuttle back and forth in the opening sequence ( slo-mo, fast, etc). Besides all that a very important furniture mystery was solved. Mel attemted to make a series of moving Carravagio paintings and I think he did just that.

March 2nd, 2004, 08:38 PM	#15
Robert Knecht Schmidt Wrangler Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Cleveland, Ohio Posts: 1,933	Does the movie establish which lucky son of a gun made off with the grail? __________________ All the best, Robert K S Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| The best in the business: DVinfo.net sponsors