Thinking about Film School at DVinfo.net

John Locke · October 1st, 2002, 04:01 AM

Looky what I found!

http://www.exposure.co.uk/makers/minute.html

Rik Sanchez · October 1st, 2002, 07:17 AM

John,
great find, I didn't know about that movie, now I'll go out and get the book and video if I can find them. I saw his latest movie back home, good film, I took my nephew and nieces with me, we all had a good time.

I was planning on looking for certain scenes, like one where he talked about how he used the same 3 rocks as a background for all the scene in the mountain, but I was enjoying myself with the kids too much to look closely at technical stuff.

I'll get the DVD when it comes out, might even see it again when it comes out over here. Seeing it at the theaters, you couldn't tell that it wasn't shot on film, now that I think of it, I should have asked the theater staff if they used any digital video projectors at that theather. It was a new huge complex, I'm assuming the version I saw was a film print.

Rob Lohman · October 1st, 2002, 07:29 AM

Amazon and other places both have his book and his DVD. Try
to get his double DVD pack with both El Mariachi & Desperado
on it. They both contain a 10 minute filmschool short movie and
also excellent commentary tracks. Together with the book you
have a real indie film makers treasure chest.

The book:
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0452271878

The DVD on amazon:
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0767811054 (region 1)

The DVD on play.com:
http://www.playserver3.com/play247.asp?page=title&r=R2&title=1806 (region 2)

Bryant Sentosa · May 15th, 2003, 01:26 AM

Has anyone had any experience at the Los Angeles Film School?

I plan on attending their 6 week Digital Film Making class on May 30th, so any opinions before then would be great?

Thank
Bryant

Imran Zaidi · May 15th, 2003, 07:07 AM

Well I don't know anything about the LA Film School, but check out this contest that iFilm.com is having regarding it...

http://www.ifilm.com/showcollection?...d=1564&cch=110

Alex Knappenberger · May 28th, 2003, 08:54 PM

Hey, for a paper we have to do for school, about your career choice, I am stuck on what I'd actually like to do.

The only things that I enjoy and good at is computers and video. I know for a job I don't want to sit behind a desk all day, at a computer, even though I do enjoy computers, ecspecially editing video, but too much of them makes me sick. That leaves video/filmmaking/whatever you want to call it. What are some possible "career choices"? I think steadicam operator would be a fun job, but I'm not so sure about that. Maybe I should just consider somethinge else? :D Oh yeah, I'm terrible dealing with people, since that makes a big difference.

Also, don't you really have to move to like California if you want to make it in any movie making stuff?

Keith Loh · May 28th, 2003, 09:10 PM

There are plenty of production centers all around North America. I live in one: Vancouver, but there's also Toronto, Montreal, New York.

As for career choices, just look at the credits for any feature film (or any professional production). It always astounds me the army of people who are involved in putting moving pictures on the screen. 80 per cent of those people are on set, not sitting in front of computers.

Robert Knecht Schmidt · May 28th, 2003, 09:38 PM

"80 per cent of those people are on set, not sitting in front of computers."

For most filmed entertainment, this is still true, but not for anything with digital special effects. One need only watch the credits roll for The Matrix Reloaded--more than 60% of it is devoted to post production workers.

Furthermore, whereas nearly all on-set production crew get listed in the credits, many post artists with small contributions get left off, like so many extras.

Alex, you might consider film school. Besides having a good production program, USC also has an excellent digital post curriculum.

Alex Knappenberger · May 28th, 2003, 09:46 PM

Whew, California...i'd probably shoot myself if I lived there for a week...

So you really do have to move to someplace like California or Newyork, right?

Robert Knecht Schmidt · May 28th, 2003, 09:53 PM

Alex, I thought the same about Southern California before I lived in L.A. for 4.5 years during college. Atmospheric pollution aside, California can be a breath of fresh air for someone who grew up in Midwest or on the East Coast. When hunting for colleges, I really recommend you visit as many of them as you can, spend some time on the campuses, hang out with the other students. You'll find some schools are in the middle of nowhere and offer nothing in the way of extracurricular fun; others seem to be in the middle of everything and offer a variety of options for entertainment and employ.

As for whether you need to reside in one of the traditional commercial centers of production to work in the industry: you don't need to, but it makes it easier, particularly when starting out.

Sought-after artists can live wherever they feel inspired and still be financially successful.

For your part, you might choose to combat Ohio brain drain and stick around in the location of your upbringing. Or, you could seek the path of easier advancement and higher pay. There are advantages and disadvantages to each.

Josh Bass · May 28th, 2003, 11:24 PM

When starting out, DO NOT COME TO HOUSTON! Not that you were anyway. I'm in hell. There's nothing here for a novice that pays.

Keith Loh · May 29th, 2003, 02:59 AM

<<<-- Originally posted by Robert Knecht Schmidt : For most filmed entertainment, this is still true, but not for anything with digital special effects. One need only watch the credits roll for The Matrix Reloaded--more than 60% of it is devoted to post production workers.

Furthermore, whereas nearly all on-set production crew get listed in the credits, many post artists with small contributions get left off, like so many extras. -->>>

These types of films are still the a small minority as compared to the productions that are mostly if not entirely live action.

Nigel Moore · May 29th, 2003, 03:27 AM

Quote:

just look at the credits for any feature film

This is the point where the rest of us get up and walk out, right? :-)

Frank Granovski · May 29th, 2003, 03:44 AM

Re: "just look at the credits for any feature film"

Yup. My buddy just collected another credit. This one's on X-Men 2. He's tickled silly. Mind you, it's under the wrong heading.

Andrew Petrie · May 29th, 2003, 07:24 AM

<<<-- Originally posted by Frank Granovski : Re: "just look at the credits for any feature film"

Yup. My buddy just collected another credit. This one's on X-Men 2. He's tickled silly. Mind you, it's under the wrong heading. -->>>

Hahaha, that would suck. What did he do and what credit did they give him?

I sit through the credits when I've enjoyed a movie. In respect to the people that made it happen.

October 1st, 2002, 04:01 AM	#1
John Locke Retired DV Info Net Almunus Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Austin, TX USA Posts: 2,882	10 Minute Film School...online! Looky what I found! http://www.exposure.co.uk/makers/minute.html __________________ John Locke SursumFilms.com

October 1st, 2002, 07:17 AM	#2
Rik Sanchez ChorizoSmells Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Osaka, Japan Posts: 424	John, great find, I didn't know about that movie, now I'll go out and get the book and video if I can find them. I saw his latest movie back home, good film, I took my nephew and nieces with me, we all had a good time. I was planning on looking for certain scenes, like one where he talked about how he used the same 3 rocks as a background for all the scene in the mountain, but I was enjoying myself with the kids too much to look closely at technical stuff. I'll get the DVD when it comes out, might even see it again when it comes out over here. Seeing it at the theaters, you couldn't tell that it wasn't shot on film, now that I think of it, I should have asked the theater staff if they used any digital video projectors at that theather. It was a new huge complex, I'm assuming the version I saw was a film print. __________________ ChorizoSmells Video Barrio Tamatsukuri, Osaka, JAPAN

October 1st, 2002, 07:29 AM	#3
Rob Lohman RED Code Chef Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Holland Posts: 12,514	Amazon and other places both have his book and his DVD. Try to get his double DVD pack with both El Mariachi & Desperado on it. They both contain a 10 minute filmschool short movie and also excellent commentary tracks. Together with the book you have a real indie film makers treasure chest. The book: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0452271878 The DVD on amazon: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0767811054 (region 1) The DVD on play.com: http://www.playserver3.com/play247.asp?page=title&r=R2&title=1806 (region 2) __________________ Rob Lohman, visuar@iname.com DV Info Wrangler & RED Code Chef Join the DV Challenge \| Lady X Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Buy from the best: DVinfo.net sponsors

May 15th, 2003, 01:26 AM	#4
Bryant Sentosa Regular Crew Join Date: May 2003 Location: Los Angeles, California Posts: 33	Los Angeles Film School.. Any opinions? Has anyone had any experience at the Los Angeles Film School? I plan on attending their 6 week Digital Film Making class on May 30th, so any opinions before then would be great? Thank Bryant

May 28th, 2003, 08:54 PM	#6
Alex Knappenberger High School Student Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Canton, Ohio, USA Posts: 609	Career choice for a youngin'! Hey, for a paper we have to do for school, about your career choice, I am stuck on what I'd actually like to do. The only things that I enjoy and good at is computers and video. I know for a job I don't want to sit behind a desk all day, at a computer, even though I do enjoy computers, ecspecially editing video, but too much of them makes me sick. That leaves video/filmmaking/whatever you want to call it. What are some possible "career choices"? I think steadicam operator would be a fun job, but I'm not so sure about that. Maybe I should just consider somethinge else? :D Oh yeah, I'm terrible dealing with people, since that makes a big difference. Also, don't you really have to move to like California if you want to make it in any movie making stuff?

May 15th, 2003, 07:07 AM	#5
Imran Zaidi Trustee Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 1,315	Well I don't know anything about the LA Film School, but check out this contest that iFilm.com is having regarding it... http://www.ifilm.com/showcollection?...d=1564&cch=110

May 28th, 2003, 09:10 PM	#7
Keith Loh Air China Pilot Join Date: May 2002 Location: Vancouver, B.C. Posts: 2,389	There are plenty of production centers all around North America. I live in one: Vancouver, but there's also Toronto, Montreal, New York. As for career choices, just look at the credits for any feature film (or any professional production). It always astounds me the army of people who are involved in putting moving pictures on the screen. 80 per cent of those people are on set, not sitting in front of computers. __________________ -- Visit http://www.KeithLoh.com \| stuff about living in Vancouver \| My Flickr photo gallery

May 28th, 2003, 09:38 PM	#8
Robert Knecht Schmidt Wrangler Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Cleveland, Ohio Posts: 1,933	"80 per cent of those people are on set, not sitting in front of computers." For most filmed entertainment, this is still true, but not for anything with digital special effects. One need only watch the credits roll for The Matrix Reloaded--more than 60% of it is devoted to post production workers. Furthermore, whereas nearly all on-set production crew get listed in the credits, many post artists with small contributions get left off, like so many extras. Alex, you might consider film school. Besides having a good production program, USC also has an excellent digital post curriculum. __________________ All the best, Robert K S Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| The best in the business: DVinfo.net sponsors

May 28th, 2003, 09:46 PM	#9
Alex Knappenberger High School Student Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Canton, Ohio, USA Posts: 609	Whew, California...i'd probably shoot myself if I lived there for a week... So you really do have to move to someplace like California or Newyork, right?

May 28th, 2003, 09:53 PM	#10
Robert Knecht Schmidt Wrangler Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Cleveland, Ohio Posts: 1,933	Alex, I thought the same about Southern California before I lived in L.A. for 4.5 years during college. Atmospheric pollution aside, California can be a breath of fresh air for someone who grew up in Midwest or on the East Coast. When hunting for colleges, I really recommend you visit as many of them as you can, spend some time on the campuses, hang out with the other students. You'll find some schools are in the middle of nowhere and offer nothing in the way of extracurricular fun; others seem to be in the middle of everything and offer a variety of options for entertainment and employ. As for whether you need to reside in one of the traditional commercial centers of production to work in the industry: you don't need to, but it makes it easier, particularly when starting out. Sought-after artists can live wherever they feel inspired and still be financially successful. For your part, you might choose to combat Ohio brain drain and stick around in the location of your upbringing. Or, you could seek the path of easier advancement and higher pay. There are advantages and disadvantages to each. __________________ All the best, Robert K S Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| The best in the business: DVinfo.net sponsors

May 28th, 2003, 11:24 PM	#11
Josh Bass Slash Rules! Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 5,472	When starting out, DO NOT COME TO HOUSTON! Not that you were anyway. I'm in hell. There's nothing here for a novice that pays. __________________ The Bass' camerawork The Bass on IMDB

May 29th, 2003, 02:59 AM	#12
Keith Loh Air China Pilot Join Date: May 2002 Location: Vancouver, B.C. Posts: 2,389	<<<-- Originally posted by Robert Knecht Schmidt : For most filmed entertainment, this is still true, but not for anything with digital special effects. One need only watch the credits roll for The Matrix Reloaded--more than 60% of it is devoted to post production workers. Furthermore, whereas nearly all on-set production crew get listed in the credits, many post artists with small contributions get left off, like so many extras. -->>> These types of films are still the a small minority as compared to the productions that are mostly if not entirely live action. __________________ -- Visit http://www.KeithLoh.com \| stuff about living in Vancouver \| My Flickr photo gallery

May 29th, 2003, 03:44 AM	#14
Frank Granovski Outer Circle Join Date: May 2002 Location: Hope, BC Posts: 7,524	Re: "just look at the credits for any feature film" Yup. My buddy just collected another credit. This one's on X-Men 2. He's tickled silly. Mind you, it's under the wrong heading.

May 29th, 2003, 07:24 AM	#15
Andrew Petrie Major Player Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: London, Ontario, Canada Posts: 484	<<<-- Originally posted by Frank Granovski : Re: "just look at the credits for any feature film" Yup. My buddy just collected another credit. This one's on X-Men 2. He's tickled silly. Mind you, it's under the wrong heading. -->>> Hahaha, that would suck. What did he do and what credit did they give him? I sit through the credits when I've enjoyed a movie. In respect to the people that made it happen. __________________ Andrew \| Canon XL1s, ME66, Vinten Vision 3, GlideCam V16 (for sale!)