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Brian Orser · February 19th, 2007, 06:46 PM

Hey all. I'm new to the forums, gathering info in preparation for my first full-length docu project. I'm in Santa Cruz, California. Anyone else in these parts?

Chris Barcellos · February 19th, 2007, 07:55 PM

Brian:

Welcome to DVInfo.net. What kind of documentary ?

I've seen a lot of Bay Area people on line here. I'm a little farther out in Sacramento area...

Kevin Janisch · February 19th, 2007, 08:41 PM

Hey Brian,

I'm right next door here in Marina. If you don't mind me asking, what is your documentary on?

Kevin

Brian Orser · February 19th, 2007, 09:51 PM

Hey guys. Thanks for the welcome. Sacramento and Marina; not too far. :)

The doc is on the cycle of social, economic and educational inequality in Richmond California, exemplified in Richmond High School. Basically a documentary on Richmond High School, but as a microcosm of Richmond itself. The over-whelming majority will obviously be one-person interview. We are looking to give this as high production value as we can with our budget, and are purchasing either a JVC HD110U or a Cannon XLH1, and an M2 or Brevis adapter. We are going for a filmic, fairly high-contrast, saturated, artistic look. We will shoot HD. Its a crew of 3 (unless this proves to be overambitious, and we need extra hands)

I don't mean to be cynical, but the reason I wasn't more specific to begin with (aside from not knowing whether I should burden you guys with the details) was that I was admittedly sort of worried about my concept being in some part "borrowed." I don't mind sharing, but it does kind of take the wind out of a projects sails to be unoriginal. :) Anyways, Im wondering if this is even a valid worry - has this ever happened to anyone? I don't mean to offend anyone by questioning the integrity of this forum or anything, as any number of unregistered users can see my posts.

Anyways, I was just curious.

:)

Questions I have just asked concerning my project's sound and lighting respectively:
http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=86968
http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=86974

Rob Lohman · February 20th, 2007, 05:20 AM

Hi Brian, welcome aboard DV Info Net, good to have you with us!

Chris Barcellos · February 20th, 2007, 11:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brian Orser

Anyways, Im wondering if this is even a valid worry - has this ever happened to anyone? I don't mean to offend anyone by questioning the integrity of this forum or anything, as any number of unregistered users can see my posts.

My question was asked just to have an idea what you were trying to do. There are a lot of different levels of users on this forum, from beginners, to advanced ameteurs, to seasoned pros. Docus can cover a lot of ground from nature productions to politics, etc., and that was the reason for my general query. While you got into more detail than expected, I would not expect that there would be a rush to beat you to the punch coming from this forum. I haven't heard of any such disputes...

By the way, I consider myself advanced ameteru, and I am learning to use a self built 35mm, adapted from the Redrock DIY plans, with a FX-1.

Don Donatello · February 20th, 2007, 04:26 PM

" documentary on ____________, but as a microcosm of ________ itself."

don't worry about somebody taking the "basic " idea - it's already been used many times ... you just happened to fill in the blanks with " X high school & the city of the high school " ... now it comes down to what you do with it ...

Brian Orser · February 20th, 2007, 07:41 PM

Chris: don't think I thought you were trying to steal my ideas. ;) I was just wondering whether my concern was valid, which I trust it isn't. Thanks for the assurance.

Don: I realize it's not original in its basic conception, but was merely thinking that since people already have that concept my giving a good specific example might inspire someone too original to discover their own. A very minor concern - no need to make a big deal of it. But, point taken.

Chris Barcellos · February 20th, 2007, 11:06 PM

Understood Brian, and I didn't consider that you had. So how much experience to you have with 35mm adapter ? Shot anything with one yet. Wondering about thoughts on it if you have....

Brian Orser · February 20th, 2007, 11:40 PM

Alas Chris, I am just getting my kit together. I've been stuck with a Panasonic GS-400 (which has served me fairly well) and have been borrowing equipment for too long. I finally have the cash to do a complete overhaul all at once (I decided it would be better than piecemeal). I'm getting the adapter soon, then the camera, the monitor; borrowing the light kit and the audio set-up for now. I still can't decide between the XLH1 and the JVCHD110, which by some fluke are the same price even though the XLH1 is technically far higher in the Cannon line (it's basically the JVCHD220 of the JVCs as far as I can tell) than the HD110 is in the JVC line. I'm still trying to weigh the pros and cons. I have a pretty good set of 35mm lenses from my photography (some nice old Cannon FD glass, a Vivitar, and some really nice Cannon EOS glass) for the adapter. I got all the software and post in place.

This probably isnt the right place for that post. But I guess it fits. :)

Kevin Janisch · February 21st, 2007, 11:29 AM

Brian,

Thanks for sharing. I was just genuinely curious. Good luck and I would like to check it out when it's done.

Kevin

Brian Orser · February 21st, 2007, 07:51 PM

Thank you Kevin. I'll keep everyone up to date.
Don't expect too much - I don't want you all to be disappointed. ;) (I personally am expecting everything, so am fated to be disappointed).

Randy Boose · February 28th, 2007, 12:03 AM

Hey Brian, Just wanted to say hey! Another Santa Cruz resident but just a hobbiest, no dreams of being anything else..at least not yet. Looking forward to updates as your project moves along.

Brian Orser · February 28th, 2007, 12:39 AM

Heya Randy! Santa Cruz's a lovely place eh? Good to meet a neighbor.

I too could surely be classified a hobbyist, still being a High School Senior, and headed for sociology and economics, not film (though I will be continuing to make and study film forever, I hope, and hopefully with a real budget eventually) ;).

Christopher Witz · February 28th, 2007, 04:08 PM

awe man.... I had the best fried zuccini ever on the board walk! make'n me hungry!

viva la bannana slugs!

February 19th, 2007, 06:46 PM	#1
Brian Orser Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Santa Cruz, CA Posts: 87	New, from Santa Cruz, California Hey all. I'm new to the forums, gathering info in preparation for my first full-length docu project. I'm in Santa Cruz, California. Anyone else in these parts?

February 19th, 2007, 07:55 PM	#2
Chris Barcellos Inner Circle Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Elk Grove CA Posts: 6,838	Brian: Welcome to DVInfo.net. What kind of documentary ? I've seen a lot of Bay Area people on line here. I'm a little farther out in Sacramento area... __________________ Chris J. Barcellos

February 20th, 2007, 05:20 AM	#5
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February 20th, 2007, 11:06 PM	#9
Chris Barcellos Inner Circle Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Elk Grove CA Posts: 6,838	Understood Brian, and I didn't consider that you had. So how much experience to you have with 35mm adapter ? Shot anything with one yet. Wondering about thoughts on it if you have.... __________________ Chris J. Barcellos

February 19th, 2007, 08:41 PM	#3
Kevin Janisch Major Player Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Monterey, CA Posts: 406	Hey Brian, I'm right next door here in Marina. If you don't mind me asking, what is your documentary on? Kevin

February 19th, 2007, 09:51 PM	#4
Brian Orser Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Santa Cruz, CA Posts: 87	Hey guys. Thanks for the welcome. Sacramento and Marina; not too far. :) The doc is on the cycle of social, economic and educational inequality in Richmond California, exemplified in Richmond High School. Basically a documentary on Richmond High School, but as a microcosm of Richmond itself. The over-whelming majority will obviously be one-person interview. We are looking to give this as high production value as we can with our budget, and are purchasing either a JVC HD110U or a Cannon XLH1, and an M2 or Brevis adapter. We are going for a filmic, fairly high-contrast, saturated, artistic look. We will shoot HD. Its a crew of 3 (unless this proves to be overambitious, and we need extra hands) I don't mean to be cynical, but the reason I wasn't more specific to begin with (aside from not knowing whether I should burden you guys with the details) was that I was admittedly sort of worried about my concept being in some part "borrowed." I don't mind sharing, but it does kind of take the wind out of a projects sails to be unoriginal. :) Anyways, Im wondering if this is even a valid worry - has this ever happened to anyone? I don't mean to offend anyone by questioning the integrity of this forum or anything, as any number of unregistered users can see my posts. Anyways, I was just curious. :) Questions I have just asked concerning my project's sound and lighting respectively: http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=86968 http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=86974

February 20th, 2007, 04:26 PM	#7
Don Donatello Hawaiian Shirt Mogul Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: northern cailfornia Posts: 1,261	" documentary on ____________, but as a microcosm of ________ itself." don't worry about somebody taking the "basic " idea - it's already been used many times ... you just happened to fill in the blanks with " X high school & the city of the high school " ... now it comes down to what you do with it ...

February 20th, 2007, 07:41 PM	#8
Brian Orser Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Santa Cruz, CA Posts: 87	Chris: don't think I thought you were trying to steal my ideas. ;) I was just wondering whether my concern was valid, which I trust it isn't. Thanks for the assurance. Don: I realize it's not original in its basic conception, but was merely thinking that since people already have that concept my giving a good specific example might inspire someone too original to discover their own. A very minor concern - no need to make a big deal of it. But, point taken.

February 20th, 2007, 11:40 PM	#10
Brian Orser Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Santa Cruz, CA Posts: 87	Alas Chris, I am just getting my kit together. I've been stuck with a Panasonic GS-400 (which has served me fairly well) and have been borrowing equipment for too long. I finally have the cash to do a complete overhaul all at once (I decided it would be better than piecemeal). I'm getting the adapter soon, then the camera, the monitor; borrowing the light kit and the audio set-up for now. I still can't decide between the XLH1 and the JVCHD110, which by some fluke are the same price even though the XLH1 is technically far higher in the Cannon line (it's basically the JVCHD220 of the JVCs as far as I can tell) than the HD110 is in the JVC line. I'm still trying to weigh the pros and cons. I have a pretty good set of 35mm lenses from my photography (some nice old Cannon FD glass, a Vivitar, and some really nice Cannon EOS glass) for the adapter. I got all the software and post in place. This probably isnt the right place for that post. But I guess it fits. :)

February 21st, 2007, 11:29 AM	#11
Kevin Janisch Major Player Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Monterey, CA Posts: 406	Brian, Thanks for sharing. I was just genuinely curious. Good luck and I would like to check it out when it's done. Kevin

February 21st, 2007, 07:51 PM	#12
Brian Orser Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Santa Cruz, CA Posts: 87	Thank you Kevin. I'll keep everyone up to date. Don't expect too much - I don't want you all to be disappointed. ;) (I personally am expecting everything, so am fated to be disappointed).

February 28th, 2007, 12:03 AM	#13
Randy Boose Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Santa Cruz, Ca. Posts: 29	Hey Brian, Just wanted to say hey! Another Santa Cruz resident but just a hobbiest, no dreams of being anything else..at least not yet. Looking forward to updates as your project moves along.

February 28th, 2007, 12:39 AM	#14
Brian Orser Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Santa Cruz, CA Posts: 87	Heya Randy! Santa Cruz's a lovely place eh? Good to meet a neighbor. I too could surely be classified a hobbyist, still being a High School Senior, and headed for sociology and economics, not film (though I will be continuing to make and study film forever, I hope, and hopefully with a real budget eventually) ;).

February 28th, 2007, 04:08 PM	#15
Christopher Witz Major Player Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 591	awe man.... I had the best fried zuccini ever on the board walk! make'n me hungry! viva la bannana slugs!