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Bill Furner · October 4th, 2002, 11:01 PM

I enjoyed going to this site and the Apple DSP site to look for inspiration into making a DVD.

I would like to make a pro tile installation video. I have been a tile contractor years. Though I've played guitar for decades and have many songs and instrumentals for FREE online that doesn't seem to pay the bills. I have made a tile installation video for an Adobe Premiere nightschool course. I turned it in late and don't even know what grade I got for the course. But it was nice meeting other people that are interested in video creativity.

I only have a digital Sony Ultura camcorder, sorry no XL 1 yet. But I have made two slide show videos to go along with two songs I wrote and played. Actually my dad wrote one of them, it is called "The Hypnotist". I wrote the other, it is called:"The Ballad Of Jim and Betty". I sing on both. You can view them at: http://www.adamorange.com/artists/billfurner

I posted here before, I enjoy the way this site is set up so I thought I'd post a little bit about myself. I admire some of the people here brave enough to go out and buy an expensive camera like an XL1 and do an independent film and try to shop it around. That takes alot of courage, especially if you have very few contacts.

I have one acoustic guitar - slide instrumental that got onto an independent film called "Good Bye Guy Guy". I introduced myself to one of the people doing that movie, I found them at Craigslists.org through a post. They went to my site and heard "The Slide": http://www.mp3.com/tile

So all in all I really havn't had much success in media, but it is a nice outlet from the physical work of tile installation.

Thanks for reading!
Good luck to all you daring video Lewis and Clarks.

Bill

http://www.setile.com
http://www.mp3.com/tile
http://www.adamorange.com/artists/billfurner

Rob Lohman · October 8th, 2002, 03:46 AM

Thank you for introducing yourself Bill! Greatly appreciated. Although
you are not doing indepedent movie making it sounds like you have
a lot of interesting stuff up your sleeves too! And you do not
need an XL1 to make anything. There are a lot of good cameras
out there and most of the time it is only a tool. Sure it can help
a lot, but I personally do not consider it my most important
asset when it comes to movie making. That is my brain.

Good luck with all the things you do and see you around!

Bill Furner · October 8th, 2002, 07:36 AM

Thanks Rob for emailing!

Because I plan on using DVD as the container for the tile installation movie the quality of the video would be Mpeg2. I put up 3 short mini-vidoeos on the web (setile.com) but to get the file size down I had had to sacrifice the quality, having a server limit on how much I could upload.

So maybe I could use my little Cannon Ultura (1 chip) camera or do you think it would be too noticeable as compared to a 3 chip XL1?. I've never used an XL1 or any kind of 3 chip camera, I sure like the nice microphone on the XL 1. The Ultura has a very small mic and does not seem professional at all. But I do have Cubase music set up were I could narrate and install .aiff files in Premiere.

I am wondering what "Hometime" uses? Probably something like an XL-1. I would like to make it the highest quality but yet affordable.

Thanks again for the response..

Rob Lohman · October 8th, 2002, 09:13 AM

I don't know your camera, so I cannot asses its quality. And then
again, quality is in the eye of the beholder. What do you think?
If you want my opinion send me a frame (in JPEG full size please)
through e-mail and I'll take a look at the quality. Cheers.

Bill Furner · October 8th, 2002, 02:19 PM

To: Rob

Thanks Rob for the offer, I just sent off the Jpeg of the tile installation video.

Bill

Rob Lohman · October 9th, 2002, 08:14 AM

Hi Bill,

The quality you send me was way way too bad. Now I don't
know if you used a bad JPEG compression or bad capture
compression or that this is the signal you get from this camera,
but that quality I saw is unacceptable.

Good luck.

Bill Furner · October 9th, 2002, 09:18 AM

Ya, my video frame size was small and I blew it up out of proportion I guess.

The link to the mini tile installation movie is at:
http://www.setile.com

But the server seems to be down right now.

October 4th, 2002, 11:01 PM	#1
Bill Furner Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Calif Posts: 46	San Francisco Bay Area I enjoyed going to this site and the Apple DSP site to look for inspiration into making a DVD. I would like to make a pro tile installation video. I have been a tile contractor years. Though I've played guitar for decades and have many songs and instrumentals for FREE online that doesn't seem to pay the bills. I have made a tile installation video for an Adobe Premiere nightschool course. I turned it in late and don't even know what grade I got for the course. But it was nice meeting other people that are interested in video creativity. I only have a digital Sony Ultura camcorder, sorry no XL 1 yet. But I have made two slide show videos to go along with two songs I wrote and played. Actually my dad wrote one of them, it is called "The Hypnotist". I wrote the other, it is called:"The Ballad Of Jim and Betty". I sing on both. You can view them at: http://www.adamorange.com/artists/billfurner I posted here before, I enjoy the way this site is set up so I thought I'd post a little bit about myself. I admire some of the people here brave enough to go out and buy an expensive camera like an XL1 and do an independent film and try to shop it around. That takes alot of courage, especially if you have very few contacts. I have one acoustic guitar - slide instrumental that got onto an independent film called "Good Bye Guy Guy". I introduced myself to one of the people doing that movie, I found them at Craigslists.org through a post. They went to my site and heard "The Slide": http://www.mp3.com/tile So all in all I really havn't had much success in media, but it is a nice outlet from the physical work of tile installation. Thanks for reading! Good luck to all you daring video Lewis and Clarks. Bill http://www.setile.com http://www.mp3.com/tile http://www.adamorange.com/artists/billfurner

October 8th, 2002, 03:46 AM	#2
Rob Lohman RED Code Chef Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Holland Posts: 12,514	Thank you for introducing yourself Bill! Greatly appreciated. Although you are not doing indepedent movie making it sounds like you have a lot of interesting stuff up your sleeves too! And you do not need an XL1 to make anything. There are a lot of good cameras out there and most of the time it is only a tool. Sure it can help a lot, but I personally do not consider it my most important asset when it comes to movie making. That is my brain. Good luck with all the things you do and see you around! __________________ Rob Lohman, visuar@iname.com DV Info Wrangler & RED Code Chef Join the DV Challenge \| Lady X Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Buy from the best: DVinfo.net sponsors

October 8th, 2002, 07:36 AM	#3
Bill Furner Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Calif Posts: 46	San Francisco Bay Area Thanks Rob for emailing! Because I plan on using DVD as the container for the tile installation movie the quality of the video would be Mpeg2. I put up 3 short mini-vidoeos on the web (setile.com) but to get the file size down I had had to sacrifice the quality, having a server limit on how much I could upload. So maybe I could use my little Cannon Ultura (1 chip) camera or do you think it would be too noticeable as compared to a 3 chip XL1?. I've never used an XL1 or any kind of 3 chip camera, I sure like the nice microphone on the XL 1. The Ultura has a very small mic and does not seem professional at all. But I do have Cubase music set up were I could narrate and install .aiff files in Premiere. I am wondering what "Hometime" uses? Probably something like an XL-1. I would like to make it the highest quality but yet affordable. Thanks again for the response..

October 8th, 2002, 09:13 AM	#4
Rob Lohman RED Code Chef Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Holland Posts: 12,514	I don't know your camera, so I cannot asses its quality. And then again, quality is in the eye of the beholder. What do you think? If you want my opinion send me a frame (in JPEG full size please) through e-mail and I'll take a look at the quality. Cheers. __________________ Rob Lohman, visuar@iname.com DV Info Wrangler & RED Code Chef Join the DV Challenge \| Lady X Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Buy from the best: DVinfo.net sponsors

October 8th, 2002, 02:19 PM	#5
Bill Furner Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Calif Posts: 46	Re:sending jpg To: Rob Thanks Rob for the offer, I just sent off the Jpeg of the tile installation video. Bill

October 9th, 2002, 08:14 AM	#6
Rob Lohman RED Code Chef Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Holland Posts: 12,514	Hi Bill, The quality you send me was way way too bad. Now I don't know if you used a bad JPEG compression or bad capture compression or that this is the signal you get from this camera, but that quality I saw is unacceptable. Good luck. __________________ Rob Lohman, visuar@iname.com DV Info Wrangler & RED Code Chef Join the DV Challenge \| Lady X Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Buy from the best: DVinfo.net sponsors

October 9th, 2002, 09:18 AM	#7
Bill Furner Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Calif Posts: 46	bad quality Ya, my video frame size was small and I blew it up out of proportion I guess. The link to the mini tile installation movie is at: http://www.setile.com But the server seems to be down right now.