Super 16mm Brazilian feature, any DOP out there?!? at DVinfo.net

Daniel Moloko · June 21st, 2004, 07:48 PM

Hello, my name is daniel.

im almost ready to shot my first feature film.

i only have 100k to start and finish the shooting scheduling.

so, the producer is only giving me the option to shoot it in Digital Dv. AND I THINK IT IS POSSIBLE TO SHOOT IN SUPER 16MM, but he thinks is not. and hes the producer...

so, the only way for me to shoot in super 16mm is to find a DOP who has a super 16mm cam and wanna try to get this job for a low profit. anyway, if this movie get made in 16mm, it will be a good international alternative movie.

so, who wanna try the Third World production style!?!?!?????

ciao

Marc Sacco · October 5th, 2004, 08:31 PM

hi Daniel!
hopefully you had some luck in finding your DP with 16mm gear! but if you didnt... you should consider Dv. these days it has gained so much more acceptance as a dramatic medium. also, if you are interested in going that route, i have a canon xl1s pkg and plenty of experience working in the industry with a variety of different mediums (stopped shooting film years ago and sold all my 16mm gear!) and in many different positions (producer,director,DP,cam op, editor,etc) check out my site and view my online demo. if you are interested we can talk about budget and timeframes....
again, good luck if you havent started your project yet!!!

marc

Diogo Galhanone Jr · November 19th, 2004, 09:20 PM

Hi Daniel!
My name is Diogo, and I sincerely think you should consider Digital.
I finished not long ago a short movie in Toronto with this beautiful Panasonic DVX-100, and here in Brasil I've done my independent company's second Music Video with this camera, and I got so excited with the process that I am starting (embryonically speaking) to pre-produce my first feature as well. The script is almost ready but that's beside the point.
The point is that your producer is right. Go digital. You have 100k and I HOPE we're talking US dollars here, man...
Shoot digital, edit it on a FCP4 suit or whatever system you like best, pay for the film transfer and keep some of the dough for yourselves, man, or save it to make a pretty kick-ass art direction (I would do that)...
It's your first feature, right?
I assume you want to see it on festivals and theaters, right?
Nowadays there are a lot of great festivals accepting digital work. If you want to make a difference, transfer it to film, and it still is going to be cheaper than shooting on film...
The DVX-100 we own is absoluting amazing for that matter, and if you decide to shoot your stuff on film, well, good luck. I wouldn't burn 100k on film in my first feature, specially if my PRODUCER wants it to be shot on digital...
Anyway, that's me, man.
Let's keep in touch, I'm living in Rio Grande do Sul now...
Best regards,
Diogo

Diogo Galhanone Jr · November 19th, 2004, 09:52 PM

-if this movie get made in 16mm, it will be a good international alternative movie.

Hey man, I forgot this part: What makes ANY movie a good movie is a good story, not the equipment... If you have a great story, and you're lucky enough to have someone to pay you to produce it, well, just make sure you don't screw the good story. It's as simple as that.
It doesn't matter if on film or digital. I just know that digital will give you the freedom you won't have on film with a tight budget.
Oh, and by the way, you will need not only a good DOP eager to work for a pack of thums, man. There's no good PHOTOgraphy with no good LIGHT... It doesn't matter which camera you're using, but DV gear is cheaper, so it saves you money to bring a Gaffer to the set and so forth.
Again, man, listen to your producer...
All the best,
Diogo.

Daniel Moloko · November 20th, 2004, 02:32 PM

Hey diogo,

im from Recife.

!!!

Diogo Galhanone Jr · November 22nd, 2004, 07:56 AM

Hey man!
Tell me more about this project...
Have you made up your mind? Film or digital?
Keep me informed...
Thanks,
Diogo.
P.S.:

Don Donatello · November 22nd, 2004, 11:54 PM

if super 16 doesn't work out take a look at either digibeta or the panasonic SDX 900 .. both transfer to FILM that will come very close to super 16 in many ways but will give the impression of being cleaner/sharper as it doesn't have film grain moving around ...

Alfred Okocha · November 25th, 2004, 03:26 PM

Hey guys. There's a job available in BH if anybody's up for it. Check out John Grimsons thread "NTSC shooter in Brazil" in the Helping hands section.

Too far for me but otherwise I'd do it!

Falou?

June 21st, 2004, 07:48 PM	#1
Daniel Moloko Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Brazil Posts: 124	Super 16mm Brazilian feature, any DOP out there?!? Hello, my name is daniel. im almost ready to shot my first feature film. i only have 100k to start and finish the shooting scheduling. so, the producer is only giving me the option to shoot it in Digital Dv. AND I THINK IT IS POSSIBLE TO SHOOT IN SUPER 16MM, but he thinks is not. and hes the producer... so, the only way for me to shoot in super 16mm is to find a DOP who has a super 16mm cam and wanna try to get this job for a low profit. anyway, if this movie get made in 16mm, it will be a good international alternative movie. so, who wanna try the Third World production style!?!?!????? ciao

October 5th, 2004, 08:31 PM	#2
Marc Sacco Regular Crew Join Date: May 2004 Location: new fairfield, CT Posts: 65	hi Daniel! hopefully you had some luck in finding your DP with 16mm gear! but if you didnt... you should consider Dv. these days it has gained so much more acceptance as a dramatic medium. also, if you are interested in going that route, i have a canon xl1s pkg and plenty of experience working in the industry with a variety of different mediums (stopped shooting film years ago and sold all my 16mm gear!) and in many different positions (producer,director,DP,cam op, editor,etc) check out my site and view my online demo. if you are interested we can talk about budget and timeframes.... again, good luck if you havent started your project yet!!! marc __________________ www.zenimage.com The brave may not live forever, but the cautious do not live at all....

November 19th, 2004, 09:20 PM	#3
Diogo Galhanone Jr New Boot Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Capao da Canoa - RS - Brazil Posts: 6	Hi Daniel! My name is Diogo, and I sincerely think you should consider Digital. I finished not long ago a short movie in Toronto with this beautiful Panasonic DVX-100, and here in Brasil I've done my independent company's second Music Video with this camera, and I got so excited with the process that I am starting (embryonically speaking) to pre-produce my first feature as well. The script is almost ready but that's beside the point. The point is that your producer is right. Go digital. You have 100k and I HOPE we're talking US dollars here, man... Shoot digital, edit it on a FCP4 suit or whatever system you like best, pay for the film transfer and keep some of the dough for yourselves, man, or save it to make a pretty kick-ass art direction (I would do that)... It's your first feature, right? I assume you want to see it on festivals and theaters, right? Nowadays there are a lot of great festivals accepting digital work. If you want to make a difference, transfer it to film, and it still is going to be cheaper than shooting on film... The DVX-100 we own is absoluting amazing for that matter, and if you decide to shoot your stuff on film, well, good luck. I wouldn't burn 100k on film in my first feature, specially if my PRODUCER wants it to be shot on digital... Anyway, that's me, man. Let's keep in touch, I'm living in Rio Grande do Sul now... Best regards, Diogo

November 19th, 2004, 09:52 PM	#4
Diogo Galhanone Jr New Boot Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Capao da Canoa - RS - Brazil Posts: 6	-if this movie get made in 16mm, it will be a good international alternative movie. Hey man, I forgot this part: What makes ANY movie a good movie is a good story, not the equipment... If you have a great story, and you're lucky enough to have someone to pay you to produce it, well, just make sure you don't screw the good story. It's as simple as that. It doesn't matter if on film or digital. I just know that digital will give you the freedom you won't have on film with a tight budget. Oh, and by the way, you will need not only a good DOP eager to work for a pack of thums, man. There's no good PHOTOgraphy with no good LIGHT... It doesn't matter which camera you're using, but DV gear is cheaper, so it saves you money to bring a Gaffer to the set and so forth. Again, man, listen to your producer... All the best, Diogo.

November 20th, 2004, 02:32 PM	#5
Daniel Moloko Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Brazil Posts: 124	Hey diogo, im from Recife. !!!

November 22nd, 2004, 07:56 AM	#6
Diogo Galhanone Jr New Boot Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Capao da Canoa - RS - Brazil Posts: 6	Hey man! Tell me more about this project... Have you made up your mind? Film or digital? Keep me informed... Thanks, Diogo. P.S.:

November 22nd, 2004, 11:54 PM	#7
Don Donatello Hawaiian Shirt Mogul Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: northern cailfornia Posts: 1,261	if super 16 doesn't work out take a look at either digibeta or the panasonic SDX 900 .. both transfer to FILM that will come very close to super 16 in many ways but will give the impression of being cleaner/sharper as it doesn't have film grain moving around ...

November 25th, 2004, 03:26 PM	#8
Alfred Okocha Major Player Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: London Posts: 427	Hey guys. There's a job available in BH if anybody's up for it. Check out John Grimsons thread "NTSC shooter in Brazil" in the Helping hands section. Too far for me but otherwise I'd do it! Falou?