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Digital Dan · March 13th, 2002, 12:24 PM

Hi everyone, nice forum! First time here. Just picked up the GL1 a few months ago - love it. Now trying to find a good editing program. I have Premiere now - not bad.

I previously had a small production company doing animation on 35mm film and TV commericials. Also shot many documentaries on a variety of topics and some real estate promo stuff for some well known resorts. I used to shoot on 16mm and Betacam SP - now the GL1 is my baby. I've already done a few short docu-dramas with it and absolutely love the camera.

Looking forward to meeting many of you and perhaps we can all meet somewhere in the middle sometime this summer for a shoot-out!

Mike

Rob Lohman · March 14th, 2002, 03:28 AM

Welcome aboard Mike!

March 14th, 2002, 10:49 AM

Hello, Welcome. I am a newbie to the board as well but find it has a whole lot of resources that are hard to find elsewhere.

You may wanna get After Fx, much better at editing, premiere is basically a good capture app, with ok editing functions. But if you are editing, animating and compositing definitly get after Fx for pc, FinalCut Pro for mac, or Commotion , and better yet Combustion if you can afford it. (just remember you can't capture dv with After FX, only premiere, so you need them both)
Good luck. Matt

Rob Lohman · March 15th, 2002, 02:28 AM

I agree a bit with him, although I think Premiere is a much
better editing application than After Effects will ever be. Premiere
is made to edit. After Effects is not. With my current project
I am editing in Premiere. Then I load my Premiere project in
After Effects and do my effects and color correcting jobs there.

As with anything, try it before you buy it.

March 15th, 2002, 10:54 AM

Ok here's the skinny. I have been using both apps extensively for over 6 years.
If all your doing is clipping, arranging and transitioning video/audio clips. Yes Premiere is the clear choice. It's easy, fast, and everything is right in front of you.
BUT:
After Fx is clearly the more robust application. Hands Down. Read any highend video mag, article or ask any video professional. After Fx does everything Premiere does and ten times more, the only thing is you can't capture with it. Not to mention it imports Premiere Files directly.
Don't take my word for it, Go to Vfxpro.com discussion forums, Cinematograhpy.com Discussion forums, Read "Digital Fim Making" by Scott Billups, Or "The Fimakers Handbook" by Steven Ascher (should both be required reading...best money you'll ever spend).
I have no prejudgement about either app. After Fx is much more difficult to get a handle on no doubt about it, but it provides much more flexability, tools and functions for the money.

MS

Chris Hurd · March 15th, 2002, 11:27 AM

It should be noted that Premiere is a video editing program and After Effects is a video compositing program. No doubt about it, many folks use After Effects to edit, but it does have a steep learning curve and is not the best choice for beginners or for people who need to work fast and get a job finished quickly.

I use Canopus RexEdit and I really like it despite a few limitations. The ability to edit and output in real-time is a huge benefit, and the interface is clean, simple and fast to learn and use.

Guys, we've taken the conversation beyond the focus of the meet 'n' greet format of this forum... best to pick it up elsewhere. Look for a new PC-based video editing forum to open here soon.

Don Parrish · April 4th, 2002, 12:05 PM

Hello Dan
Welcome to a great site, I use pinnacle studio DV 7 but would like to get Avid Xpress for it's abilities.

P.S. use to work at albert whitted, loved St. Pete, had an apartment near the pier, one day I will go back.
Don

Digital Dan · April 4th, 2002, 12:53 PM

Hi Don,

Is Pinnacle Studio fairly easy to learn? I saw it on sale for $99 at CompUSA, which I think is a pretty good deal. I use Adobe Premiere now. Glad you love St. Pete. I don't. Been here since 1969 and saw the city go down every year since. What's left now is not pretty. Anyway, maybe we can meet up and do some shooting sometime. I go to St. Augustine/Palatka area regularly.

March 13th, 2002, 12:24 PM	#1
Digital Dan New Boot Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: St. Petersburg FL Posts: 10	St. Petersburg FL here Hi everyone, nice forum! First time here. Just picked up the GL1 a few months ago - love it. Now trying to find a good editing program. I have Premiere now - not bad. I previously had a small production company doing animation on 35mm film and TV commericials. Also shot many documentaries on a variety of topics and some real estate promo stuff for some well known resorts. I used to shoot on 16mm and Betacam SP - now the GL1 is my baby. I've already done a few short docu-dramas with it and absolutely love the camera. Looking forward to meeting many of you and perhaps we can all meet somewhere in the middle sometime this summer for a shoot-out! Mike __________________ Mike

March 14th, 2002, 03:28 AM	#2
Rob Lohman RED Code Chef Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Holland Posts: 12,514	Welcome aboard Mike! __________________ Rob Lohman, visuar@iname.com DV Info Wrangler & RED Code Chef Join the DV Challenge \| Lady X Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Buy from the best: DVinfo.net sponsors

March 14th, 2002, 10:49 AM	#3
MSKUTNIK Posts: n/a	Welcome Hello, Welcome. I am a newbie to the board as well but find it has a whole lot of resources that are hard to find elsewhere. You may wanna get After Fx, much better at editing, premiere is basically a good capture app, with ok editing functions. But if you are editing, animating and compositing definitly get after Fx for pc, FinalCut Pro for mac, or Commotion , and better yet Combustion if you can afford it. (just remember you can't capture dv with After FX, only premiere, so you need them both) Good luck. Matt

March 15th, 2002, 02:28 AM	#4
Rob Lohman RED Code Chef Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Holland Posts: 12,514	I agree a bit with him, although I think Premiere is a much better editing application than After Effects will ever be. Premiere is made to edit. After Effects is not. With my current project I am editing in Premiere. Then I load my Premiere project in After Effects and do my effects and color correcting jobs there. As with anything, try it before you buy it. __________________ Rob Lohman, visuar@iname.com DV Info Wrangler & RED Code Chef Join the DV Challenge \| Lady X Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Buy from the best: DVinfo.net sponsors

March 15th, 2002, 10:54 AM	#5
MSKUTNIK Posts: n/a	After Fx vs Premiere Ok here's the skinny. I have been using both apps extensively for over 6 years. If all your doing is clipping, arranging and transitioning video/audio clips. Yes Premiere is the clear choice. It's easy, fast, and everything is right in front of you. BUT: After Fx is clearly the more robust application. Hands Down. Read any highend video mag, article or ask any video professional. After Fx does everything Premiere does and ten times more, the only thing is you can't capture with it. Not to mention it imports Premiere Files directly. Don't take my word for it, Go to Vfxpro.com discussion forums, Cinematograhpy.com Discussion forums, Read "Digital Fim Making" by Scott Billups, Or "The Fimakers Handbook" by Steven Ascher (should both be required reading...best money you'll ever spend). I have no prejudgement about either app. After Fx is much more difficult to get a handle on no doubt about it, but it provides much more flexability, tools and functions for the money. MS

March 15th, 2002, 11:27 AM	#6
Chris Hurd Obstreperous Rex Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: San Marcos, TX Posts: 27,368 Images: 513	It should be noted that Premiere is a video editing program and After Effects is a video compositing program. No doubt about it, many folks use After Effects to edit, but it does have a steep learning curve and is not the best choice for beginners or for people who need to work fast and get a job finished quickly. I use Canopus RexEdit and I really like it despite a few limitations. The ability to edit and output in real-time is a huge benefit, and the interface is clean, simple and fast to learn and use. Guys, we've taken the conversation beyond the focus of the meet 'n' greet format of this forum... best to pick it up elsewhere. Look for a new PC-based video editing forum to open here soon. __________________ CH Search DV Info Net \| 20 years of DVi \| ...Tuesday is Soylent Green Day!

April 4th, 2002, 12:05 PM	#7
Don Parrish Major Player Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Tavares Fla Posts: 541	Hello Dan Welcome to a great site, I use pinnacle studio DV 7 but would like to get Avid Xpress for it's abilities. P.S. use to work at albert whitted, loved St. Pete, had an apartment near the pier, one day I will go back. Don

April 4th, 2002, 12:53 PM	#8
Digital Dan New Boot Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: St. Petersburg FL Posts: 10	Hi Don, Is Pinnacle Studio fairly easy to learn? I saw it on sale for $99 at CompUSA, which I think is a pretty good deal. I use Adobe Premiere now. Glad you love St. Pete. I don't. Been here since 1969 and saw the city go down every year since. What's left now is not pretty. Anyway, maybe we can meet up and do some shooting sometime. I go to St. Augustine/Palatka area regularly. __________________ Mike