Seven Secrets of Shooting Video to Look Like Film

Brad Simmons · May 28th, 2003, 12:26 AM

no, me neither, though I'm looking forward to it.

Michael Chen · May 28th, 2003, 06:10 AM

Perhaps , someone can post the 7 secrets here when they received it ?

Stylianos Moschapidakis · May 28th, 2003, 06:17 AM

No 7 secrets here either. But, what a minute...secrets aren't supposed to be revealed, right?

Andrew Petrie · May 28th, 2003, 06:48 AM

<<<-- Originally posted by Stylianos Moschapidakis : No 7 secrets here either. But, what a minute...secrets aren't supposed to be revealed, right? -->>>

Damn, we've been suckered! :D

Val Rodriguez · June 2nd, 2003, 10:01 PM

Seven Secrets no more.....I just got my copy this evening.

Stylianos Moschapidakis · June 3rd, 2003, 07:03 AM

Val, could you please e-mail the article to me. I would very much appreciate that. Please copy-and-paste it, don't email it as an attachment.

Thank you.

Rick Spilman · June 3rd, 2003, 07:26 AM

Odd, I signed up and immediately recieved a copy by e-mail and then a second copy by e-mail. If anyone still wants a copy drop me an e-amil and I will be happy to pass it along.

A comment - the "Seven Secrets" is all good advice but the most important "secrets"aren't secrets.

Rob Lohman · June 4th, 2003, 01:40 PM

Please send it to me. I haven't received anything yet!

Alex Knappenberger · June 4th, 2003, 01:48 PM

Yeah, I just got my copy also.

Rick, I agree, they aren't really secrets...lol

Ah, what the heck, i'll spill the beans, heres whats in the E-Mail:

#7 Secret of Shooting Video to Look like Film: Fog

#6 Secret of Shooting Video to Look like Film: Shoot with Frame Mode (30 fps non-interlaced)

#5 Secret of Shooting Video to Look like Film: Add depth with smooth moving camera shots

#4 Secret of Shooting Video to Look like Film: Use Shallow Depth of Field

#3 Secret of Shooting Video to Look like Film: Shoot with a diffusion filter

#2 Secret of Shooting Video to Look like Film: Use a professional light kit (when feasible)

#1 Secret of Shooting Video to Look like Film: Sharpen your Cinematography Skills

Rob Lohman · June 4th, 2003, 02:28 PM

Thanks for the e-mail Stylianos!

Josh Mellicker · June 6th, 2003, 12:33 AM

We just switched to a snazzy new mailing list system- so snazzy we've been having many major snafus with it. Apologies to anyone who has not received the issue- or received it twice.

I think everything's up and running now- please email me personally if you do not receive your issue.

(You must confirm your subscription before you are officially added to the list (to prevent anyone else from signing you up))

Thanks Chris et al for tolerating this digression.

James David Walley · June 11th, 2003, 12:57 AM

<<<-- Originally posted by Alex Knappenberger :
#3 Secret of Shooting Video to Look like Film: Shoot with a diffusion filter
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One of the filters they strongly recommended was the Tiffen Black Diffusion FX 3. I tried it on my camera, and, far from making the image more filmlike, it just made it more muddy. Plus, on my TRV900 you have to shoot at f5.6 or wider, or you can actually see the diffusion pattern as translucent gray circles on the image!

Zac Stein · June 11th, 2003, 12:58 AM

I got the biggest secret ever the other day in a way to get the film look.
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shoot with film! gawd dang it just might work!!!

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ps. *grinz*

Imran Zaidi · June 11th, 2003, 07:31 AM

In the latest issue of DV mag, they had a little article on using filters and such to get a better look with DV. One thing the article suggests is that most of the smaller CCD DV cameras will have a tough time with some lens filters, because their depth of field is so large it'll just focus in on the filter itself.

I guess, James, from your experience with the trv900, this is true.

Josh Mellicker · June 11th, 2003, 10:49 AM

I put a note at the bottom of this page for depth-of-field and filters:

http://www.dvcreators.net/products/tiffen_filters.html

May 28th, 2003, 06:17 AM	#18
Stylianos Moschapidakis Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Cambridge, MA/Crete, Greece Posts: 189	No 7 secrets here either. But, what a minute...secrets aren't supposed to be revealed, right? __________________ Stelios G.M.

May 28th, 2003, 06:48 AM	#19
Andrew Petrie Major Player Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: London, Ontario, Canada Posts: 484	<<<-- Originally posted by Stylianos Moschapidakis : No 7 secrets here either. But, what a minute...secrets aren't supposed to be revealed, right? -->>> Damn, we've been suckered! :D __________________ Andrew \| Canon XL1s, ME66, Vinten Vision 3, GlideCam V16 (for sale!)

June 2nd, 2003, 10:01 PM	#20
Val Rodriguez Regular Crew Join Date: May 2003 Location: Mission Viejo, CA Posts: 35	Seven Secrets no more.....I just got my copy this evening. __________________ Val Rod

June 3rd, 2003, 07:03 AM	#21
Stylianos Moschapidakis Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Cambridge, MA/Crete, Greece Posts: 189	Val, could you please e-mail the article to me. I would very much appreciate that. Please copy-and-paste it, don't email it as an attachment. Thank you. __________________ Stelios G.M.

June 4th, 2003, 01:40 PM	#23
Rob Lohman RED Code Chef Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Holland Posts: 12,514	Please send it to me. I haven't received anything yet! __________________ Rob Lohman, visuar@iname.com DV Info Wrangler & RED Code Chef Join the DV Challenge \| Lady X Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Buy from the best: DVinfo.net sponsors

May 28th, 2003, 12:26 AM	#16
Brad Simmons Major Player Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Washington DC Posts: 304	no, me neither, though I'm looking forward to it.

May 28th, 2003, 06:10 AM	#17
Michael Chen Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Singapore Posts: 163	Perhaps , someone can post the 7 secrets here when they received it ?

June 3rd, 2003, 07:26 AM	#22
Rick Spilman Major Player Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Jersey City, NJ Posts: 366	Odd, I signed up and immediately recieved a copy by e-mail and then a second copy by e-mail. If anyone still wants a copy drop me an e-amil and I will be happy to pass it along. A comment - the "Seven Secrets" is all good advice but the most important "secrets"aren't secrets.

June 4th, 2003, 01:48 PM	#24
Alex Knappenberger High School Student Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Canton, Ohio, USA Posts: 609	Yeah, I just got my copy also. Rick, I agree, they aren't really secrets...lol Ah, what the heck, i'll spill the beans, heres whats in the E-Mail: #7 Secret of Shooting Video to Look like Film: Fog #6 Secret of Shooting Video to Look like Film: Shoot with Frame Mode (30 fps non-interlaced) #5 Secret of Shooting Video to Look like Film: Add depth with smooth moving camera shots #4 Secret of Shooting Video to Look like Film: Use Shallow Depth of Field #3 Secret of Shooting Video to Look like Film: Shoot with a diffusion filter #2 Secret of Shooting Video to Look like Film: Use a professional light kit (when feasible) #1 Secret of Shooting Video to Look like Film: Sharpen your Cinematography Skills

June 4th, 2003, 02:28 PM	#25
Rob Lohman RED Code Chef Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Holland Posts: 12,514	Thanks for the e-mail Stylianos! __________________ Rob Lohman, visuar@iname.com DV Info Wrangler & RED Code Chef Join the DV Challenge \| Lady X Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Buy from the best: DVinfo.net sponsors

June 6th, 2003, 12:33 AM	#26
Josh Mellicker DV Creators Join Date: May 2002 Location: Hollywood Posts: 91	We just switched to a snazzy new mailing list system- so snazzy we've been having many major snafus with it. Apologies to anyone who has not received the issue- or received it twice. I think everything's up and running now- please email me personally if you do not receive your issue. (You must confirm your subscription before you are officially added to the list (to prevent anyone else from signing you up)) Thanks Chris et al for tolerating this digression.

June 11th, 2003, 12:57 AM	#27
James David Walley New Boot Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Maple Valley, Washington Posts: 16	<<<-- Originally posted by Alex Knappenberger : #3 Secret of Shooting Video to Look like Film: Shoot with a diffusion filter -->>> One of the filters they strongly recommended was the Tiffen Black Diffusion FX 3. I tried it on my camera, and, far from making the image more filmlike, it just made it more muddy. Plus, on my TRV900 you have to shoot at f5.6 or wider, or you can actually see the diffusion pattern as translucent gray circles on the image!

June 11th, 2003, 12:58 AM	#28
Zac Stein Major Player Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 730	I got the biggest secret ever the other day in a way to get the film look. . . . . . . . . . . . shoot with film! gawd dang it just might work!!! zac ps. grinz

June 11th, 2003, 07:31 AM	#29
Imran Zaidi Trustee Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 1,315	In the latest issue of DV mag, they had a little article on using filters and such to get a better look with DV. One thing the article suggests is that most of the smaller CCD DV cameras will have a tough time with some lens filters, because their depth of field is so large it'll just focus in on the filter itself. I guess, James, from your experience with the trv900, this is true.

June 11th, 2003, 10:49 AM	#30
Josh Mellicker DV Creators Join Date: May 2002 Location: Hollywood Posts: 91	I put a note at the bottom of this page for depth-of-field and filters: http://www.dvcreators.net/products/tiffen_filters.html