Simple effect that is baffling me.... at DVinfo.net

Neil Rostance · December 22nd, 2006, 05:22 AM

Hello!

I watched a lot of waverlyfilms.com productions lately, and there's a very quirky piece about a cowboy ghost appearing in the background layered over a man sat in a chair. The coyboy is cut to appear with the music, and without masking, i dont know how this is achieved. He seems to interact with the character too, which add's another layer of "how does that work?"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6nFFzAtnPJI

I'm not desperate to produce flickering cowboy films...yet. But it would be great to know how to shoot/post this effect.

Thank you for any advice, comments.

Neil

Michael Dempsey · December 22nd, 2006, 09:12 AM

Here's my best guess:

85% looks to be done with two different shots, one w/ guy and one w/ cowboy and it would have had to been masked a bit where the two characters share the same space.

Then at the end when the cowboy becomes solid they are both in the same shot. This part still could have been done with masks but it would have been a lot of work.

join this forum and do a search on clone tutorials by 98watso and he shows how to have two separate videos interacting.

http://www.wrigleyvideo.com/videotutorial/

Neil Rostance · December 24th, 2006, 08:58 AM

Yeah that was my first diagnosis on it, i find it hard to think that somebody has spent so much time masking a cowboy though!

thanks for the comment. I'll check out the website,

Neil

Tyson Perkins · December 25th, 2006, 02:18 AM

I dont know why they woulda spent so much time masking it?

Michael Dempsey · December 26th, 2006, 07:59 AM

Actually in Adobe After Effects it wouldn't take long to mask that scene. You don't have to do the whole cowboy, just where the images overlap. The editing software makes that quite easy. Again try you find those tutorials I referred to and you'll see how easy it can be, with practice of course.

Jacob Ehrichs · December 26th, 2006, 06:19 PM

It looks pretty simple to me.

I'd have shot the whole scene with the chair man and the cowboy straight through with the chair man pretending he can't see him. Then I'd get a plate shot with no actors and roto where appropriate. There isn't too much masking involved from what I see.

December 22nd, 2006, 05:22 AM	#1
Neil Rostance Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Lace Market, Nottingham, UK Posts: 194	Simple effect that is baffling me.... Hello! I watched a lot of waverlyfilms.com productions lately, and there's a very quirky piece about a cowboy ghost appearing in the background layered over a man sat in a chair. The coyboy is cut to appear with the music, and without masking, i dont know how this is achieved. He seems to interact with the character too, which add's another layer of "how does that work?" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6nFFzAtnPJI I'm not desperate to produce flickering cowboy films...yet. But it would be great to know how to shoot/post this effect. Thank you for any advice, comments. Neil

December 22nd, 2006, 09:12 AM	#2
Michael Dempsey Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 47	Here's my best guess: 85% looks to be done with two different shots, one w/ guy and one w/ cowboy and it would have had to been masked a bit where the two characters share the same space. Then at the end when the cowboy becomes solid they are both in the same shot. This part still could have been done with masks but it would have been a lot of work. join this forum and do a search on clone tutorials by 98watso and he shows how to have two separate videos interacting. http://www.wrigleyvideo.com/videotutorial/

December 24th, 2006, 08:58 AM	#3
Neil Rostance Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Lace Market, Nottingham, UK Posts: 194	Yeah that was my first diagnosis on it, i find it hard to think that somebody has spent so much time masking a cowboy though! thanks for the comment. I'll check out the website, Neil

December 25th, 2006, 02:18 AM	#4
Tyson Perkins Major Player Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: sydney, australia Posts: 221	I dont know why they woulda spent so much time masking it?

December 26th, 2006, 07:59 AM	#5
Michael Dempsey Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 47	Actually in Adobe After Effects it wouldn't take long to mask that scene. You don't have to do the whole cowboy, just where the images overlap. The editing software makes that quite easy. Again try you find those tutorials I referred to and you'll see how easy it can be, with practice of course.

December 26th, 2006, 06:19 PM	#6
Jacob Ehrichs Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Dayton, OH Posts: 169	It looks pretty simple to me. I'd have shot the whole scene with the chair man and the cowboy straight through with the chair man pretending he can't see him. Then I'd get a plate shot with no actors and roto where appropriate. There isn't too much masking involved from what I see.