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Riley Harmon · June 13th, 2006, 11:20 PM

Here is your coveted film look. Mixture of After Effects DOF Simulation, image softening, and my own 24p method. Shot 60i with a Sony VX2000.
:-) Comments and criticisms appreciated.

www.rileyharmon.com/temp/pan61.mov

Glenn Chan · June 14th, 2006, 12:29 AM

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Comments and criticisms appreciated.

If you want to be picky, detail sort of gets blown out in the girl's shirt.

Should you care? I wouldn't really care too much... although it's fixable with lighting (use a net) or other methods. The footage looks great.

2- I'm ignoring the red bars... did the encode screw up there?

Marcus Marchesseault · June 14th, 2006, 07:02 AM

I think it looks good. The shirt detail only highlights a bit on one side. All the fabric shadows from folds and the collar are still fine. I am especially impressed since I have a VX2000 and that doesn't look at all like the camera's natural footage. How does AE give a shallow DOF effect?

Riley Harmon · June 14th, 2006, 09:30 AM

encoder didnt mess up, i purposly put red bars. its a promotional video for my college. so im using our colors! O----ooooooU!

Juan Parra · June 15th, 2006, 04:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Riley Harmon

Here is your coveted film look. Mixture of After Effects DOF Simulation, image softening, and my own 24p method. Shot 60i with a Sony VX2000.
:-) Comments and criticisms appreciated.

www.rileyharmon.com/temp/pan61.mov

sorry but narrow DoF and 24p are not filmlook.
It looks like video.

Work more on imaging softening and levels...

Bin Chen · June 19th, 2006, 02:33 PM

I don't get it...

it doesn't look like it came from film at all...

Rob Gregory-Browne · June 19th, 2006, 03:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Riley Harmon

Here is your coveted film look. Mixture of After Effects DOF Simulation, image softening, and my own 24p method. Shot 60i with a Sony VX2000.
:-) Comments and criticisms appreciated.

www.rileyharmon.com/temp/pan61.mov

Riley, I'm especially impressed by the DOF simulation and would love to know your method.

rgb

Riley Harmon · June 19th, 2006, 06:41 PM

better shots coming, i was mainly displaying the dof and 24p, which dont account for all of film look

Tim Johnson · June 20th, 2006, 10:42 AM

according to the description of this forum 24p does stand as "film look"

"Frame Movie mode, 24p and other approaches to a cinematic feel."

i like the video, i think its well done. i do a very similar artificial shallow dof on some of my photos in photoshop.

Riley Harmon · June 20th, 2006, 11:16 PM

vx2000 www.rileyharmon.com/temp/sky_replacement.mov

Yasser Kassana · June 21st, 2006, 05:46 AM

Riley that last one was superb. Nice.

Juan Parra · June 21st, 2006, 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Riley Harmon

vx2000 www.rileyharmon.com/temp/sky_replacement.mov

this is very good.
although the 24p looks jerky at times...

i bet de-interlacing the 60i clip, and then encoding it at 15fps
will have a better filmlook...at least the jerkiness won't be
a distraction...

David Jimerson · June 23rd, 2006, 03:07 PM

I'm not sure there's enough going on in that clip to really judge. It doesn't look like harsh Sony 60i, but there's not enough motion to really appreciate the 24p cadence.

Nate Schmidt · July 2nd, 2006, 01:07 PM

Riley, that sky replacement was sick!

Simon Wyndham · July 2nd, 2006, 02:24 PM

I didn't watch the video, but I wish poeple would stop obsessing over blown out highlights. I can name numerous 35mm films with blown out highlights, and you know what? They were blown out on purpose, for artistic reasons.

So IMHO anyone who critcises 'filmlook' by the fact that there may be blown out highlights is talking, well, I'll let you insert a word or phrase there.

June 13th, 2006, 11:20 PM	#1
Riley Harmon Major Player Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 424	Here is your film look Here is your coveted film look. Mixture of After Effects DOF Simulation, image softening, and my own 24p method. Shot 60i with a Sony VX2000. :-) Comments and criticisms appreciated. www.rileyharmon.com/temp/pan61.mov

June 20th, 2006, 10:42 AM	#9
Tim Johnson Regular Crew Join Date: May 2006 Location: London, England Posts: 101	according to the description of this forum 24p does stand as "film look" "Frame Movie mode, 24p and other approaches to a cinematic feel." i like the video, i think its well done. i do a very similar artificial shallow dof on some of my photos in photoshop. __________________ (Wishes to be more informative and helpful than a nuisance)

June 23rd, 2006, 03:07 PM	#13
David Jimerson Jubal 28 Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Wilmington, NC Posts: 872	I'm not sure there's enough going on in that clip to really judge. It doesn't look like harsh Sony 60i, but there's not enough motion to really appreciate the 24p cadence. __________________ www.wrightsvillebeachstudios.com

July 2nd, 2006, 01:07 PM	#14
Nate Schmidt Major Player Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Welland ON Posts: 515	Riley, that sky replacement was sick! __________________ "We've done the impossible, and that makes us mighty."

June 14th, 2006, 07:02 AM	#3
Marcus Marchesseault Trustee Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Honolulu, HI Posts: 1,961	I think it looks good. The shirt detail only highlights a bit on one side. All the fabric shadows from folds and the collar are still fine. I am especially impressed since I have a VX2000 and that doesn't look at all like the camera's natural footage. How does AE give a shallow DOF effect?

June 14th, 2006, 09:30 AM	#4
Riley Harmon Major Player Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 424	encoder didnt mess up, i purposly put red bars. its a promotional video for my college. so im using our colors! O----ooooooU!

June 19th, 2006, 02:33 PM	#6
Bin Chen New Boot Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 15	I don't get it... it doesn't look like it came from film at all...

June 19th, 2006, 06:41 PM	#8
Riley Harmon Major Player Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 424	better shots coming, i was mainly displaying the dof and 24p, which dont account for all of film look

June 20th, 2006, 11:16 PM	#10
Riley Harmon Major Player Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 424	vx2000 www.rileyharmon.com/temp/sky_replacement.mov

June 21st, 2006, 05:46 AM	#11
Yasser Kassana Major Player Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: UK Posts: 223	Riley that last one was superb. Nice.

July 2nd, 2006, 02:24 PM	#15
Simon Wyndham Trustee Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Malvern UK Posts: 1,931	I didn't watch the video, but I wish poeple would stop obsessing over blown out highlights. I can name numerous 35mm films with blown out highlights, and you know what? They were blown out on purpose, for artistic reasons. So IMHO anyone who critcises 'filmlook' by the fact that there may be blown out highlights is talking, well, I'll let you insert a word or phrase there.