New Film Look and color correction software

Alain Bellon · April 3rd, 2006, 01:19 PM

Antony, I'll be able to answer your question shortly.

Don, 8-bit for the moment.

John, you got the updated version.

One thing, we cannot monitor the forums as closely as we would like, so if you email me directly we can provide a much faster response. The contact email is on the mentemagica.com webpage (or send email from the forum).

Dare Kent · April 3rd, 2006, 04:52 PM

At some point this will deinterlace and go to 24fps, as per an earlier email. Will future updates/upgrades be free or will there be a charge? Thanks.

Marc Colemont · April 6th, 2006, 10:12 AM

Is this software to be used on Mac or PC? I can't tell from the website...

Alain Bellon · April 6th, 2006, 10:21 AM

Dare,

We are working, due to popular demand, on the 60i -> 24p conversion. So if all goes well it will be incorporated into this version of the software at no extra cost.

Marc,

This is PC Windows software, we will make some changes to the website to make it more clear (it currently states the system requirements at the bottom of the CinemantiQ page).

Marc Colemont · April 6th, 2006, 10:47 AM

Thanks Alain for the quick reply.

Dino Santoro · April 9th, 2006, 09:48 AM

Is there a Mac version in the works?

Marc Colemont · April 9th, 2006, 11:09 AM

Alain,

I bought the software and tested some footage with it.
Awesome software and it's stable which is very important too.
Keep de presets coming please.

Matt Gottshalk · April 9th, 2006, 12:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dino Santoro

Is there a Mac version in the works?

Ditto....?

Jaime Espiritu · April 9th, 2006, 06:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marc Colemont

Alain,

I bought the software and tested some footage with it.
Awesome software and it's stable which is very important too.
Keep de presets coming please.

I agree. I just purchased the program and it's awesome!

Ben Freedman · April 10th, 2006, 12:35 AM

Howdy...

Is there a way to change to 16x9 aspect ratio on the monitors? My cineform footage looks squished..

Thanks.

Ben

Alain Bellon · April 10th, 2006, 01:09 AM

There is currently no plan for a Mac version. But it may change in the future.

Regarding the 16:9, there is no aspect ratio selection for the displays right now, but we will add that feature so there should be a free update in a couple of days.

Marc Colemont · April 10th, 2006, 01:03 PM

Alain, I posted some footage which I finalized with your software on this link:
http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=64740

Chris Barcellos · April 10th, 2006, 01:17 PM

I have been getting some crazy renders on a file I tried to add one of the Presets to change color:

Questions, comments:

1. Prior to this, I had only rendered a to 30 FPS from interlaced. Am I accomplishing a 30p non-interlaced file when I do that ?

2. The recent render was on with softening, and sunset lighting. What I ended up with was a file with the the end at the beginning, and the video was chopped up within the frame.

3. The project I was working on had a 16:9 crop inside a 720x480 file. When I did do a successful render, it would be squished. When I rerendered using another codec, and selected 720x540, it seemed to render it in right aspect.

4. Does processor have some effect. I use a dual core 3800+ AMD processor.

5. Alain: I am curious, what setting do you use for a basic render of a file:

Alain Bellon · April 10th, 2006, 01:38 PM

1. Yes, if you deinterlace an interlaced source and output to 30 fps, you are getting a 30p file.

2. Sounds like a codec issue. (emailing you privately)

3. When selecting crop 16:9, it should just add bars on top of the video. If you select Shrink 16:9, the it will squish the video down and add bars on the empty space left. (I will verify it nonetheless). Use crop when you shot 4:3 and you want to crop it to 16:9.

If you shot 16:9 and your source video is stretched up, then you should leave it alone since the 16:9 stretching should be a player setting (DVD player etc). The player is the one that will stretch the video and will introduce the letterboxing if needed.

If you want to produce a 4:3 version from the 16:9 shot, with the letterbox embedded (part of the frames) then you use the Shrink 16:9 mode.

Sounds confusing, so please drop me a note if you need further assistance.

4. I do not know, but processors should have no bearing here. I'll email you privately to seek out an answer.

5. I would select a lossless compressor like HuffYUV, leave default settings and render. I also render to DV with default settings (720x480, 30fps) but only as a very last step, since DV will introduce artifacts due to recompression.

Alain Bellon · April 10th, 2006, 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marc Colemont

Alain, I posted some footage which I finalized with your software on this link:
http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=64740

Marc, looks great! It's a tad heavy on the bloom on some areas but maybe that's what you wanted.

Well done.

I may start a repository for user created presets.

April 3rd, 2006, 04:52 PM	#17
Dare Kent New Boot Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Canada Posts: 22	free upgrades At some point this will deinterlace and go to 24fps, as per an earlier email. Will future updates/upgrades be free or will there be a charge? Thanks.

April 10th, 2006, 12:35 AM	#25
Ben Freedman Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 188	16x9? Howdy... Is there a way to change to 16x9 aspect ratio on the monitors? My cineform footage looks squished.. Thanks. Ben

April 10th, 2006, 01:17 PM	#28
Chris Barcellos Inner Circle Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Elk Grove CA Posts: 6,838	I have been getting some crazy renders on a file I tried to add one of the Presets to change color: Questions, comments: 1. Prior to this, I had only rendered a to 30 FPS from interlaced. Am I accomplishing a 30p non-interlaced file when I do that ? 2. The recent render was on with softening, and sunset lighting. What I ended up with was a file with the the end at the beginning, and the video was chopped up within the frame. 3. The project I was working on had a 16:9 crop inside a 720x480 file. When I did do a successful render, it would be squished. When I rerendered using another codec, and selected 720x540, it seemed to render it in right aspect. 4. Does processor have some effect. I use a dual core 3800+ AMD processor. 5. Alain: I am curious, what setting do you use for a basic render of a file: __________________ Chris J. Barcellos

April 3rd, 2006, 01:19 PM	#16
Alain Bellon Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: LA Posts: 130	Antony, I'll be able to answer your question shortly. Don, 8-bit for the moment. John, you got the updated version. One thing, we cannot monitor the forums as closely as we would like, so if you email me directly we can provide a much faster response. The contact email is on the mentemagica.com webpage (or send email from the forum).

April 6th, 2006, 10:12 AM	#18
Marc Colemont Major Player Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Belgium Posts: 695	Is this software to be used on Mac or PC? I can't tell from the website...

April 6th, 2006, 10:21 AM	#19
Alain Bellon Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: LA Posts: 130	Dare, We are working, due to popular demand, on the 60i -> 24p conversion. So if all goes well it will be incorporated into this version of the software at no extra cost. Marc, This is PC Windows software, we will make some changes to the website to make it more clear (it currently states the system requirements at the bottom of the CinemantiQ page).

April 6th, 2006, 10:47 AM	#20
Marc Colemont Major Player Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Belgium Posts: 695	Thanks Alain for the quick reply.

April 9th, 2006, 09:48 AM	#21
Dino Santoro Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Toronto, Ontario Canada Posts: 82	Is there a Mac version in the works?

April 9th, 2006, 11:09 AM	#22
Marc Colemont Major Player Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Belgium Posts: 695	Alain, I bought the software and tested some footage with it. Awesome software and it's stable which is very important too. Keep de presets coming please.

April 10th, 2006, 01:09 AM	#26
Alain Bellon Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: LA Posts: 130	There is currently no plan for a Mac version. But it may change in the future. Regarding the 16:9, there is no aspect ratio selection for the displays right now, but we will add that feature so there should be a free update in a couple of days.

April 10th, 2006, 01:03 PM	#27
Marc Colemont Major Player Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Belgium Posts: 695	Alain, I posted some footage which I finalized with your software on this link: http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=64740

April 10th, 2006, 01:38 PM	#29
Alain Bellon Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: LA Posts: 130	1. Yes, if you deinterlace an interlaced source and output to 30 fps, you are getting a 30p file. 2. Sounds like a codec issue. (emailing you privately) 3. When selecting crop 16:9, it should just add bars on top of the video. If you select Shrink 16:9, the it will squish the video down and add bars on the empty space left. (I will verify it nonetheless). Use crop when you shot 4:3 and you want to crop it to 16:9. If you shot 16:9 and your source video is stretched up, then you should leave it alone since the 16:9 stretching should be a player setting (DVD player etc). The player is the one that will stretch the video and will introduce the letterboxing if needed. If you want to produce a 4:3 version from the 16:9 shot, with the letterbox embedded (part of the frames) then you use the Shrink 16:9 mode. Sounds confusing, so please drop me a note if you need further assistance. 4. I do not know, but processors should have no bearing here. I'll email you privately to seek out an answer. 5. I would select a lossless compressor like HuffYUV, leave default settings and render. I also render to DV with default settings (720x480, 30fps) but only as a very last step, since DV will introduce artifacts due to recompression.