Deinterlacing Footage and Cinelook at DVinfo.net

Jon Paul Puno · January 20th, 2003, 04:21 AM

Hi! I was experimenting with video in Adobe Premiere and noticed that after I had deinterlaced the video, and made the frame rate 24 frames a second, the footage significantly looked a lot like film. I was wondering what exactly does Cinelook do to give the alleged film look! Does it deinterlace the footage and color correct the footage? If color correction is all Cinelook does, then can one just use Adobe Photoshop for that?? Is Cinelook's color correction better than photoshop? I now the grain that Cinelook does is practically useless since most film stocks right know have barely any grain.

Thank,
JP

Jeff Donald · January 20th, 2003, 10:14 AM

Photoshop is not practical for large numbers of frames. After Effects allows you to place filters on entire scenes. It is more practical for video work. Cinelook also has preset film looks that adjust levels, gamma etc, Cinelook and Photoshop both have excellent color correction.

Jeff

Don Berube · February 13th, 2003, 03:28 PM

Hi John, are you using Preemiere on a PC or Mac? WHat version of Premiere? What system OS?

- don

Rene Legaspi · February 21st, 2003, 12:03 AM

Here is an avi clip i made compressed to divx (www.divx.com) which is progressive and 3:2 pulldown is removed. Used Virtualdub.

http://www.tentimesnothing.com/tentimes/street2.avi

File size originally 70 MB -- now it's 6.39 MB. Not as crisp but more downloadable :p

shot in 24p mode on pansonic dvx100.

Michael Robinson · February 21st, 2003, 10:47 AM

Jon, Cinelook does not deinterlace. Neither does Cinemotion, for that matter. What they try to do (with Cinelook's frame blending and Cinemotion's settings) is try to mimic film motion at the 3:2 pulldown step. That being said, you can still use Cinelook to color correct and add grain (if need be) You can use your photoshop deinterlace filter in After Effects, or use the 50 percent opacity trick w/2 copies of your clip (1 upper, 1 lower field) exporting it out as full frame. I've written a bit more in other software recommendations in the other deinterlace thread...if you need any further assistance feel free to ask.

Posterizing your clip @ 24fps can sometimes work, but in most cases the motion judder is a bit off, leading to jerky results. HTH.

January 20th, 2003, 04:21 AM	#1
Jon Paul Puno Tourist Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: US Posts: 4	Deinterlacing Footage and Cinelook Hi! I was experimenting with video in Adobe Premiere and noticed that after I had deinterlaced the video, and made the frame rate 24 frames a second, the footage significantly looked a lot like film. I was wondering what exactly does Cinelook do to give the alleged film look! Does it deinterlace the footage and color correct the footage? If color correction is all Cinelook does, then can one just use Adobe Photoshop for that?? Is Cinelook's color correction better than photoshop? I now the grain that Cinelook does is practically useless since most film stocks right know have barely any grain. Thank, JP

February 13th, 2003, 03:28 PM	#3
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January 20th, 2003, 10:14 AM	#2
Jeff Donald Warden Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Clearwater, FL Posts: 8,287	Photoshop is not practical for large numbers of frames. After Effects allows you to place filters on entire scenes. It is more practical for video work. Cinelook also has preset film looks that adjust levels, gamma etc, Cinelook and Photoshop both have excellent color correction. Jeff

February 21st, 2003, 12:03 AM	#4
Rene Legaspi New Boot Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 17	Here is an avi clip i made compressed to divx (www.divx.com) which is progressive and 3:2 pulldown is removed. Used Virtualdub. http://www.tentimesnothing.com/tentimes/street2.avi File size originally 70 MB -- now it's 6.39 MB. Not as crisp but more downloadable :p shot in 24p mode on pansonic dvx100.

February 21st, 2003, 10:47 AM	#5
Michael Robinson Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Philly, PA Posts: 40	Jon, Cinelook does not deinterlace. Neither does Cinemotion, for that matter. What they try to do (with Cinelook's frame blending and Cinemotion's settings) is try to mimic film motion at the 3:2 pulldown step. That being said, you can still use Cinelook to color correct and add grain (if need be) You can use your photoshop deinterlace filter in After Effects, or use the 50 percent opacity trick w/2 copies of your clip (1 upper, 1 lower field) exporting it out as full frame. I've written a bit more in other software recommendations in the other deinterlace thread...if you need any further assistance feel free to ask. Posterizing your clip @ 24fps can sometimes work, but in most cases the motion judder is a bit off, leading to jerky results. HTH.