Do a lot of movies use this 3 color rule?

Ryan Elder · January 6th, 2021, 02:17 PM

Yes it's true that I am a long way off from the color grading process and from the shooting process. But I am making the storyboards and shot list now. In the storyboards on frameforge, it's all colorized already. Therefore, should I choose colors that will be closer to the final product to avoid confusion when I show the storyboards to a DP and PD for example?

Josh Bass · January 6th, 2021, 03:02 PM

No. If your DP doesnt know the boards are at best a loose guide and thinks the colors in them are exactly how you intend the movie to look, that person is a braindead moron and should be fired immediately

Pete Cofrancesco · January 6th, 2021, 04:28 PM

Ryan Elder · January 20th, 2021, 06:22 PM

Well it was said before that I should am trying to emulate a look of movies that is too high budget and I should look to other low budget movies for inspiration. Are there any other microbudget movies to be inspired by where they do not have a color scheme in mind?

Every movie I watch almost seems to have one in mind, so are their any that do not then besides El Mariachi, where the movies are still good of course?

Paul R Johnson · January 21st, 2021, 06:34 AM

Unless you have a good story and good actors - nobody will even notice your silly colour scheme ideas. You are spending time and money on storyboarding - this is really poor use of your funds, because all that effort to colourise a working document helps nobody at all!

Ryan Elder · January 21st, 2021, 07:05 PM

Should I just draw out the storyboards with a pencil then?

Patrick Tracy · January 21st, 2021, 08:39 PM

Sure, why not?

Pete Cofrancesco · January 21st, 2021, 10:01 PM

I highly recommend the Ticonderoga Soft No. 2 Pencil. It feels good in the hand.

Josh Bass · January 21st, 2021, 10:07 PM

Is there a demo of if? I dont know if I want to spend money on a pencil without trying it first.

Ryan Elder · January 21st, 2021, 10:08 PM

Well it's just I want to attract possible funding and a DP, and I was told by two filmmakers that it makes a good impression if I have the storyboards ready to go in the plan I present. But if the drawings don't look good because they are drawn by me, I was worried it would make a more poor impression, and that every little bit helps.

Paul R Johnson · January 22nd, 2021, 02:35 AM

How many times do we have to tell you that you must stop asking people, grow a set and learn to make decisions based on your gut.

You are also totally unable to read people properly, and often misinterpret totally what people actually say.

Do these people know you? Do they know how you confuse people? If they do, their advice is tempered by them trying to help you. Maybe they got confused by your verbal attempts to explain, so figured your only way to get an idea across is a picture, because you can’t do it well in speech?

You say good impression? To whom? Which of your available pool even know how to read a storyboard? The camera people mainly. I’m not really a mega capable camera person, but I can read anything from a scribble to a photo if, and only if, it contains enough info. My own view of storyboards, or longhand explanations, or 2D diagrams and plans is that they all work if they contain what people need so they don’t need to ask. The more questions they generate, the worse they were.

Ryan Elder · January 22nd, 2021, 10:12 AM

Oh so you are saying if I make the storyboards in frameforge or something like that, they could raise more questions?

The people are just a couple of filmmakers I have helped with on their projects before.

Paul R Johnson · January 22nd, 2021, 10:29 AM

No - not at all what I'm saying.

In fact if they are real filmmakers - then they would understand almost anything.

Ryan Elder · January 22nd, 2021, 10:51 AM

Oh okay, but I thought that the storyboards clarity would be for the producers and funders sake, rather than the filmmakers, or so that's what they were telling me.

Pete Cofrancesco · January 22nd, 2021, 11:20 AM

Storyboards aren't for fundraising. A funder isn't interested in that level of details. This type of production wouldn't attract investors. You'd be lucky to get friends, family and participants donating a small amount so they can be in a movie. Seriously be realistic this is a passion project and treat it as such. It's not going to make money, it's hey I made my own movie on a micro budget. You should try to curb your delusions of grandeur and set achievable goals.

January 6th, 2021, 02:17 PM	#136
Ryan Elder also known as Ryan Wray Join Date: Nov 2017 Location: Saskatoon, Canada Posts: 2,888	Re: Do a lot of movies use this 3 color rule? Yes it's true that I am a long way off from the color grading process and from the shooting process. But I am making the storyboards and shot list now. In the storyboards on frameforge, it's all colorized already. Therefore, should I choose colors that will be closer to the final product to avoid confusion when I show the storyboards to a DP and PD for example?

January 6th, 2021, 03:02 PM	#137
Josh Bass Slash Rules! Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 5,472	Re: Do a lot of movies use this 3 color rule? No. If your DP doesnt know the boards are at best a loose guide and thinks the colors in them are exactly how you intend the movie to look, that person is a braindead moron and should be fired immediately __________________ The Bass' camerawork The Bass on IMDB

January 6th, 2021, 04:28 PM	#138
Pete Cofrancesco Inner Circle Join Date: May 2004 Location: USA Posts: 3,005	Re: Do a lot of movies use this 3 color rule? YouTube (Short URL)

January 20th, 2021, 06:22 PM	#139
Ryan Elder also known as Ryan Wray Join Date: Nov 2017 Location: Saskatoon, Canada Posts: 2,888	Re: Do a lot of movies use this 3 color rule? Well it was said before that I should am trying to emulate a look of movies that is too high budget and I should look to other low budget movies for inspiration. Are there any other microbudget movies to be inspired by where they do not have a color scheme in mind? Every movie I watch almost seems to have one in mind, so are their any that do not then besides El Mariachi, where the movies are still good of course?

January 21st, 2021, 06:34 AM	#140
Paul R Johnson Inner Circle Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Lowestoft - UK Posts: 4,045	Re: Do a lot of movies use this 3 color rule? Unless you have a good story and good actors - nobody will even notice your silly colour scheme ideas. You are spending time and money on storyboarding - this is really poor use of your funds, because all that effort to colourise a working document helps nobody at all!

January 21st, 2021, 07:05 PM	#141
Ryan Elder also known as Ryan Wray Join Date: Nov 2017 Location: Saskatoon, Canada Posts: 2,888	Re: Do a lot of movies use this 3 color rule? Should I just draw out the storyboards with a pencil then?

January 21st, 2021, 08:39 PM	#142
Patrick Tracy Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Lafayette, Colorado Posts: 167	Re: Do a lot of movies use this 3 color rule? Sure, why not? __________________ Boulder Sound Guy website Boulder Sound Guy on YouTube

January 21st, 2021, 10:01 PM	#143
Pete Cofrancesco Inner Circle Join Date: May 2004 Location: USA Posts: 3,005	Re: Do a lot of movies use this 3 color rule? I highly recommend the Ticonderoga Soft No. 2 Pencil. It feels good in the hand.

January 21st, 2021, 10:07 PM	#144
Josh Bass Slash Rules! Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 5,472	Re: Do a lot of movies use this 3 color rule? Is there a demo of if? I dont know if I want to spend money on a pencil without trying it first. __________________ The Bass' camerawork The Bass on IMDB

January 21st, 2021, 10:08 PM	#145
Ryan Elder also known as Ryan Wray Join Date: Nov 2017 Location: Saskatoon, Canada Posts: 2,888	Re: Do a lot of movies use this 3 color rule? Well it's just I want to attract possible funding and a DP, and I was told by two filmmakers that it makes a good impression if I have the storyboards ready to go in the plan I present. But if the drawings don't look good because they are drawn by me, I was worried it would make a more poor impression, and that every little bit helps.

January 22nd, 2021, 02:35 AM	#146
Paul R Johnson Inner Circle Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Lowestoft - UK Posts: 4,045	Re: Do a lot of movies use this 3 color rule? How many times do we have to tell you that you must stop asking people, grow a set and learn to make decisions based on your gut. You are also totally unable to read people properly, and often misinterpret totally what people actually say. Do these people know you? Do they know how you confuse people? If they do, their advice is tempered by them trying to help you. Maybe they got confused by your verbal attempts to explain, so figured your only way to get an idea across is a picture, because you can’t do it well in speech? You say good impression? To whom? Which of your available pool even know how to read a storyboard? The camera people mainly. I’m not really a mega capable camera person, but I can read anything from a scribble to a photo if, and only if, it contains enough info. My own view of storyboards, or longhand explanations, or 2D diagrams and plans is that they all work if they contain what people need so they don’t need to ask. The more questions they generate, the worse they were.

January 22nd, 2021, 10:12 AM	#147
Ryan Elder also known as Ryan Wray Join Date: Nov 2017 Location: Saskatoon, Canada Posts: 2,888	Re: Do a lot of movies use this 3 color rule? Oh so you are saying if I make the storyboards in frameforge or something like that, they could raise more questions? The people are just a couple of filmmakers I have helped with on their projects before.

January 22nd, 2021, 10:29 AM	#148
Paul R Johnson Inner Circle Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Lowestoft - UK Posts: 4,045	Re: Do a lot of movies use this 3 color rule? No - not at all what I'm saying. In fact if they are real filmmakers - then they would understand almost anything.

January 22nd, 2021, 10:51 AM	#149
Ryan Elder also known as Ryan Wray Join Date: Nov 2017 Location: Saskatoon, Canada Posts: 2,888	Re: Do a lot of movies use this 3 color rule? Oh okay, but I thought that the storyboards clarity would be for the producers and funders sake, rather than the filmmakers, or so that's what they were telling me.

January 22nd, 2021, 11:20 AM	#150
Pete Cofrancesco Inner Circle Join Date: May 2004 Location: USA Posts: 3,005	Re: Do a lot of movies use this 3 color rule? Storyboards aren't for fundraising. A funder isn't interested in that level of details. This type of production wouldn't attract investors. You'd be lucky to get friends, family and participants donating a small amount so they can be in a movie. Seriously be realistic this is a passion project and treat it as such. It's not going to make money, it's hey I made my own movie on a micro budget. You should try to curb your delusions of grandeur and set achievable goals.