How do you get this type of blue sunlight cinematography?

[Ryan Elder]

Should I still take the feedback then, even if they are trying to put their finger on it but do not seem certain?

[Paul R Johnson]

Feedback needs to be good quality, and evidentiary. People's opinions are subjective and always coloured. Making decisions on faulty input is pointless.

[Brian Drysdale]

You need to know what's useful and how to use it. Which parts you can use and which you can reject. You can't blindly follow feedback, because they can be wrong. There are examples where the feedback from experienced people was totally wrong - Star Wars is one example.

[Pete Cofrancesco]

I thought the last time he brought up this script that the final recommendation was to either buy a good script or pay a professional to review his. Not that I would ever expect him to follow good advice. What could go wrong trying to write a script despite not being qualified then have your friends give you free advice on how to improve it?

[Ryan Elder]

Well the other people who read it over are also writers, and filmmakers I know or have worked with before. But I can hire a different professional if that is better. I suggested on here, hiring one to rework the dialog and perhaps other parts, but it was said on here, that that would cost too much of the budget though.

[Ryan Elder]

Originally Posted by Brian Drysdale

You need to know what's useful and how to use it. Which parts you can use and which you can reject. You can't blindly follow feedback, because they can be wrong. There are examples where the feedback from experienced people was totally wrong - Star Wars is one example.

Some of the feedback I didn't follow because I thought it lead to contradictory plot points. But sometimes I feel stubborn, like maybe I should have followed it, and was perhaps being too stubborn.

[Brian Drysdale]

You can't create anything unless you personally know roughly in the direction you're going. You seem to be very tied into plot points, what if they don't work or confusing and you're blind to that?

[Ryan Elder]

Oh well, I've taken the advice given me to me on the plot points too and applied it the best I could. So if I have done that, is there is left is to hope for the best that they work on a bigger majority later, or should I do more than take the advice on them?

[Brian Drysdale]

The best way with feedback is to take it, but male it your own.

[Ryan Elder]

But when I do that and then make it my own, they then read it over, and say I applied their advice incorrectly, so I wonder if that is a bad sign then...

[Pete Cofrancesco]

You should be getting feedback from non technical people. You want to know how they feel but you shouldn't be asking them how to fix your script THAT'S YOUR JOB!

When comedian is trying out new material they will go around to small clubs and test how the audience reacts. If the joke bombs they don't explain the joke or ask them how to fix it.

[Ryan Elder]

Oh well it's just it's hard to know how to fix it if I don't ask though. They tell me what they think might be wrong, and I can take stabs at it, but all they are are stabs, where as I thought if I ask then I am more certain.

[Paul R Johnson]

Ryan, have you ever actually determined you’re a good script writer. As I have said before, my one produced script was terrible. I realised after it was finished. My friends tried to gently let me know but I pushed on, and they just went with it. Eventually light dawned and I’ve never done another one in 17 years. I’m good at lots of things but script writing, and to be honest, directing are not my area of even competence. I can function as a director for certain things. But in artistic areas I am badly lacking.

When it comes to music, some of the popular genres for younger people I am incapable of appreciating. If a director asked for a dubstep feel, I’d be totally stuck.

If you know in your hearts something is right, go for it, but production by committee is never a good way to work. If you ask ten people’s advice it will dilute your ideas to unworkable levels. So don’t ask.

Do you think other film makers work like you do, Ryan? I can assure you that none of the ones I have worked with in over 40 years do. Two from the 90s came close, and they thankfully vanished!

[Brian Drysdale]

You seem to take things literally. Just because someone makes some points, the solution may not be exactly the one they've given. However, given how the discussions in the forums go, you may not be fully understanding what they're telling you, so you're not making use of their feedback.

We don't don't know much about your script; it may just need a number of adjustments or it might be fundamentally flawed and requires a complete rethink. For this reason, we can't offer meaningful advice.

It's also possible the advice you're getting from your readers is flawed, as the writer you need to workout what's required. You have to work out where they're coming from and how they interpret things. I once had to fire a producer, with her script editor because they didn't really understand the script and their feedback was conflicting to that of the funder's script editor (who was far more experienced)..

[Ryan Elder]

Oh well, I try to figure out the solution as best I can, if they cannot quite put their finger on it. I don't listen to all the feedback though, or some is just not do-able.

Originally Posted by Paul R Johnson

Ryan, have you ever actually determined you’re a good script writer. As I have said before, my one produced script was terrible. I realised after it was finished. My friends tried to gently let me know but I pushed on, and they just went with it. Eventually light dawned and I’ve never done another one in 17 years. I’m good at lots of things but script writing, and to be honest, directing are not my area of even competence. I can function as a director for certain things. But in artistic areas I am badly lacking.

When it comes to music, some of the popular genres for younger people I am incapable of appreciating. If a director asked for a dubstep feel, I’d be totally stuck.

If you know in your hearts something is right, go for it, but production by committee is never a good way to work. If you ask ten people’s advice it will dilute your ideas to unworkable levels. So don’t ask.

Do you think other film makers work like you do, Ryan? I can assure you that none of the ones I have worked with in over 40 years do. Two from the 90s came close, and they thankfully vanished!

I've gotten mixed opinions on the script so far, ranging from good to bad. I will get more opinions. I was told by other filmmakers that this is normal and you have to trust that it's good, because I will not ge a majority opinion, and it's normal for opinions to vary.

I was curious, who produced your script, or what did you do to get it produced?