Im New at DVinfo.net

Steven Jonze · July 15th, 2005, 01:14 AM

I just bought a digital camcorder a week or so ago and know very little about the technical part of video.

Is there anyone out there who would be kind enough to list a couple of ways of getting a film look? Please dont get to technical when explaining.

Boyd Ostroff · July 15th, 2005, 07:05 AM

I think it will be difficult to give you a nice neat laundry list for getting a "film look." Since you are so new to this, why not pick up a book or two that you can read at your own pace? We have a whole forum dedicated to this: http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/forumdisplay.php?f=36

Personally, I really enjoyed Scott Billups book "Digital Moviemaking" which is now in its second edition. You should be able to find it at your local Barnes and Noble or Borders, or at Amazon:

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg...books&n=507846

DJ Kinney · July 15th, 2005, 10:39 AM

Well, there are literally a million sites devoted to it. It is complicated, and no one process works for all instances.

Of primary importance is the kind of camera you have, so let us know and we could provide more specific info on frame/movie mode and other internal functions for film look. Probably of secondary importance is the editing software.

Specifically, I was looking for a simple seven or nine step outline that was going around the internet. It was in raw text format, maybe reprinted to something more permanent. If anyone knows what I'm talking about, post a link. It outlined the basics in ascending order of importance. Colour saturation, crush blacks, shoot with good lighting, frame rate, you know the drill.

Here are two links to get you started.

http://www.lafcpug.org/feature_video_film_copy.html
http://www.urbanfox.tv/production/filmlookindex.htm

And my two cents, for price and everything, people have been raving about Vegas 6's 24p pulldown function. Looks perfect, people say, when the input is professional looking.

DJ

Steven Jonze · July 16th, 2005, 11:54 AM

I just bought a canon zr100. Its not much, but I love it anyway.

Ash Greyson · July 16th, 2005, 02:18 PM

Forget about film look right now and just shoot everything you can. Maybe watch a movie you like and recreate a simple scene. There is much talk about "film look" on these and other forums but 90% of the stuff I see with the 24P film look has poor framing, lighting, etc. etc. etc. For someone just starting you need to learn how the various camera controls effect the image.

The ZR100 has a TINY CCD so you arent going to get any depth of field so focus on framing wide shots and cutting them with extreme close-ups. When you get good at framing your shots, maybe you can step up to a camera with more controls....

ash =o)

Steven Jonze · July 16th, 2005, 08:14 PM

Im sorry, but whats depth of field.

Steven Jonze · July 16th, 2005, 10:14 PM

Nevermind, I learned what depth of field is.

Bill Porter · July 17th, 2005, 06:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ Kinney

Well, there are literally a million sites devoted to it.

I think you mean 'figuratively'. :)

DJ Kinney · July 17th, 2005, 10:15 AM

Yes. Figuratively. I "literally" mean than there are 106,000, according to the book of Google. Amen.

Still. That's plenty.

Bill Porter · July 17th, 2005, 10:35 PM

LOL, yeah, I was kidding around. But yes, there are lots.

July 15th, 2005, 01:14 AM	#1
Steven Jonze New Boot Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada Posts: 15	Im New I just bought a digital camcorder a week or so ago and know very little about the technical part of video. Is there anyone out there who would be kind enough to list a couple of ways of getting a film look? Please dont get to technical when explaining.

July 15th, 2005, 07:05 AM	#2
Boyd Ostroff Wrangler Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Mays Landing, NJ Posts: 11,802	I think it will be difficult to give you a nice neat laundry list for getting a "film look." Since you are so new to this, why not pick up a book or two that you can read at your own pace? We have a whole forum dedicated to this: http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/forumdisplay.php?f=36 Personally, I really enjoyed Scott Billups book "Digital Moviemaking" which is now in its second edition. You should be able to find it at your local Barnes and Noble or Borders, or at Amazon: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg...books&n=507846

July 15th, 2005, 10:39 AM	#3
DJ Kinney Major Player Join Date: May 2005 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 277	Well, there are literally a million sites devoted to it. It is complicated, and no one process works for all instances. Of primary importance is the kind of camera you have, so let us know and we could provide more specific info on frame/movie mode and other internal functions for film look. Probably of secondary importance is the editing software. Specifically, I was looking for a simple seven or nine step outline that was going around the internet. It was in raw text format, maybe reprinted to something more permanent. If anyone knows what I'm talking about, post a link. It outlined the basics in ascending order of importance. Colour saturation, crush blacks, shoot with good lighting, frame rate, you know the drill. Here are two links to get you started. http://www.lafcpug.org/feature_video_film_copy.html http://www.urbanfox.tv/production/filmlookindex.htm And my two cents, for price and everything, people have been raving about Vegas 6's 24p pulldown function. Looks perfect, people say, when the input is professional looking. DJ

July 16th, 2005, 11:54 AM	#4
Steven Jonze New Boot Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada Posts: 15	I just bought a canon zr100. Its not much, but I love it anyway.

July 16th, 2005, 02:18 PM	#5
Ash Greyson Trustee Join Date: May 2003 Location: Tulsa, OK Posts: 1,689	Forget about film look right now and just shoot everything you can. Maybe watch a movie you like and recreate a simple scene. There is much talk about "film look" on these and other forums but 90% of the stuff I see with the 24P film look has poor framing, lighting, etc. etc. etc. For someone just starting you need to learn how the various camera controls effect the image. The ZR100 has a TINY CCD so you arent going to get any depth of field so focus on framing wide shots and cutting them with extreme close-ups. When you get good at framing your shots, maybe you can step up to a camera with more controls.... ash =o)

July 16th, 2005, 08:14 PM	#6
Steven Jonze New Boot Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada Posts: 15	Im sorry, but whats depth of field.

July 16th, 2005, 10:14 PM	#7
Steven Jonze New Boot Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada Posts: 15	Nevermind, I learned what depth of field is.

July 17th, 2005, 10:15 AM	#9
DJ Kinney Major Player Join Date: May 2005 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 277	Yes. Figuratively. I "literally" mean than there are 106,000, according to the book of Google. Amen. Still. That's plenty.

July 17th, 2005, 10:35 PM	#10
Bill Porter Major Player Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Ventura, California, USA Posts: 751	LOL, yeah, I was kidding around. But yes, there are lots.