If you had the chance to make a feature, HD or Film

Charles Papert · December 29th, 2004, 12:53 PM

That's a good article, Rob,clearly from an experienced mixer. True enough, there has been a growing dismissal of the sound department's needs. I actually consider myself a notably sound-friendly DP compared to many I have worked for. On this recent feature I bent over backwards to accomodate sound issues that should have been anticipated in advance, right up to the limits of my patience. I could go on and on but I won't. I'll end up chewing off the bezel of my laptop.

Yi Fong Yu · December 29th, 2004, 05:31 PM

excellent article! very interesting read... what's a wallah?

Charles Papert · December 29th, 2004, 07:06 PM

Think of a group of people in a room all having conversations--you can't make out the words, just a wash of talking.

Yi Fong Yu · December 29th, 2004, 08:26 PM

kthx =).

Rob Lohman · December 30th, 2004, 07:32 AM

The article is by Ty Ford who is also a member here on DVi!

Dean Bull · February 18th, 2005, 03:33 AM

Film tastes better!! hahahahahahaha Charles, as a DP you should know what side of the film holds the emulsion and shouldn't have to be licking the film to find out.

Or are you that addicted to the job?

This is way off topic, but do you know a Gent named Erick Green? He is a DP up in LA and since its a small town (sort of) I wondered if you know him.

Charles Papert · February 18th, 2005, 09:55 AM

The name is sort of familiar, it's possible we might have worked together on something but I can't recall.

Update on "Perfect Sleep": the footage is being loaded at full HDCAM resolution into the edit bay, requiring something like 12 terabytes of storage--yikes! Apparently the post team were very gung-ho about cutting this at full res so they can bounce the footage into the effects pipeline without having to re-digitize (the deck rental is prohibitive). I haven't seen any of the footage since we wrapped but I've heard a lot of good things from those who have.

Aaron Koolen · February 18th, 2005, 12:31 PM

Charles, I hate your life! ;)

Thanks for the rundown - was an interesting read!

Aaron

Heath McKnight · February 18th, 2005, 09:05 PM

Charles,

Wouldn't 12 tb of storage cost a lot more than the rental? Just curious. Was that shot on the CineAlta?

heath

Charles Papert · February 18th, 2005, 09:13 PM

Actually I think it was only 9 tb, but they may have to have a separate non-RAID drive for some overflow material. I think the idea is that the production company purchased the storage for this and future projects but don't want to also invest in the deck just yet; my guess is they will eventually lease one once they get deeper into their HD production.

Yes, this was shot on the F900 Cinealta. Wish I could post some stills--I'm sure there will be a website eventually.

Heath McKnight · February 18th, 2005, 09:33 PM

Leasing is always a good option. BTW, Charles, did you get my private email?

Thanks,

heath

December 29th, 2004, 12:53 PM	#31
Charles Papert Wrangler Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 6,810	That's a good article, Rob,clearly from an experienced mixer. True enough, there has been a growing dismissal of the sound department's needs. I actually consider myself a notably sound-friendly DP compared to many I have worked for. On this recent feature I bent over backwards to accomodate sound issues that should have been anticipated in advance, right up to the limits of my patience. I could go on and on but I won't. I'll end up chewing off the bezel of my laptop. __________________ Charles Papert www.charlespapert.com

December 29th, 2004, 05:31 PM	#32
Yi Fong Yu Trustee Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Vulcan Posts: 1,564	excellent article! very interesting read... what's a wallah? __________________ bow wow wow

December 29th, 2004, 07:06 PM	#33
Charles Papert Wrangler Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 6,810	Think of a group of people in a room all having conversations--you can't make out the words, just a wash of talking. __________________ Charles Papert www.charlespapert.com

December 29th, 2004, 08:26 PM	#34
Yi Fong Yu Trustee Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Vulcan Posts: 1,564	kthx =). __________________ bow wow wow

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February 18th, 2005, 03:33 AM	#36
Dean Bull Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 106	tastes better!! Film tastes better!! hahahahahahaha Charles, as a DP you should know what side of the film holds the emulsion and shouldn't have to be licking the film to find out. Or are you that addicted to the job? This is way off topic, but do you know a Gent named Erick Green? He is a DP up in LA and since its a small town (sort of) I wondered if you know him.

February 18th, 2005, 09:55 AM	#37
Charles Papert Wrangler Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 6,810	The name is sort of familiar, it's possible we might have worked together on something but I can't recall. Update on "Perfect Sleep": the footage is being loaded at full HDCAM resolution into the edit bay, requiring something like 12 terabytes of storage--yikes! Apparently the post team were very gung-ho about cutting this at full res so they can bounce the footage into the effects pipeline without having to re-digitize (the deck rental is prohibitive). I haven't seen any of the footage since we wrapped but I've heard a lot of good things from those who have. __________________ Charles Papert www.charlespapert.com

February 18th, 2005, 12:31 PM	#38
Aaron Koolen Trustee Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Auckland, New Zealand Posts: 1,727	Charles, I hate your life! ;) Thanks for the rundown - was an interesting read! Aaron __________________ My Website Meat Free Media

February 18th, 2005, 09:05 PM	#39
Heath McKnight MPS Digital Studios Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Palm Beach County, Florida Posts: 8,531	Charles, Wouldn't 12 tb of storage cost a lot more than the rental? Just curious. Was that shot on the CineAlta? heath __________________ My Final Cut Pro X blog

February 18th, 2005, 09:13 PM	#40
Charles Papert Wrangler Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 6,810	Actually I think it was only 9 tb, but they may have to have a separate non-RAID drive for some overflow material. I think the idea is that the production company purchased the storage for this and future projects but don't want to also invest in the deck just yet; my guess is they will eventually lease one once they get deeper into their HD production. Yes, this was shot on the F900 Cinealta. Wish I could post some stills--I'm sure there will be a website eventually. __________________ Charles Papert www.charlespapert.com

February 18th, 2005, 09:33 PM	#41
Heath McKnight MPS Digital Studios Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Palm Beach County, Florida Posts: 8,531	Leasing is always a good option. BTW, Charles, did you get my private email? Thanks, heath __________________ My Final Cut Pro X blog