24p DV from non-24p deck? at DVinfo.net

Brian Standing · September 29th, 2004, 12:01 PM

I'm working with someone who's using a Panasonic DVX-100. We're going to shoot a scene in 24p mode, which I am going to edit in Vegas 5. I have a Panasonic AG-DV1000 DV deck which only does standard 29.97i NTSC.

Will a standard NTSC dv deck play back a 24p DV tape? If I capture over firewire from the NTSC deck, will Vegas correctly identify the footage as 24p?

Or do I need to capture from the camera in VCR mode?

Imran Zaidi · September 29th, 2004, 12:11 PM

It doesn't matter what deck you use to capture the footage. What's recorded is what's recorded. I myself use an older Sony 1-chipper as a deck.

Just remember to use the appropriate 24p setting when capturing into Vegas, and you'll be fine. Check the whitepaper...

http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthrea...threadid=10295

Brian Standing · September 29th, 2004, 12:53 PM

I guessed as much. Thanks for the quick response!

Bill Ravens · September 29th, 2004, 01:47 PM

If it's recorded on DV tape, it's gotta be NTSC format, which, by definition is 29.97fps. The Panny writes it's native 24fps acquired images onto the tape with 3:2 or 2:3:3:2 pulldown, which means the 24fps footage has frames duplicated and inserted into the footage until 30fps is achieved for recording.

When you import this footage into Vegas, you have the option to convert it back to true 24 fps or to leave it as "telecine'd", which is the 30 fps version. If you're gonna play the final video on any kind of NTSC device, like a TV, you're better off leaving it telecine'd. Most DVD players and modern TV sets will telecine 24 fps native footage anyway. The only time you'd want to leave it in native 24fps footage is if you're gonna transcode to film.

September 29th, 2004, 12:01 PM	#1
Brian Standing Major Player Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Madison, Wisconsin Posts: 621	24p DV from non-24p deck? I'm working with someone who's using a Panasonic DVX-100. We're going to shoot a scene in 24p mode, which I am going to edit in Vegas 5. I have a Panasonic AG-DV1000 DV deck which only does standard 29.97i NTSC. Will a standard NTSC dv deck play back a 24p DV tape? If I capture over firewire from the NTSC deck, will Vegas correctly identify the footage as 24p? Or do I need to capture from the camera in VCR mode?

September 29th, 2004, 12:11 PM	#2
Imran Zaidi Trustee Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 1,315	It doesn't matter what deck you use to capture the footage. What's recorded is what's recorded. I myself use an older Sony 1-chipper as a deck. Just remember to use the appropriate 24p setting when capturing into Vegas, and you'll be fine. Check the whitepaper... http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthrea...threadid=10295

September 29th, 2004, 12:53 PM	#3
Brian Standing Major Player Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Madison, Wisconsin Posts: 621	I guessed as much. Thanks for the quick response!

September 29th, 2004, 01:47 PM	#4
Bill Ravens Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: santa fe, nm Posts: 3,264 Images: 10	If it's recorded on DV tape, it's gotta be NTSC format, which, by definition is 29.97fps. The Panny writes it's native 24fps acquired images onto the tape with 3:2 or 2:3:3:2 pulldown, which means the 24fps footage has frames duplicated and inserted into the footage until 30fps is achieved for recording. When you import this footage into Vegas, you have the option to convert it back to true 24 fps or to leave it as "telecine'd", which is the 30 fps version. If you're gonna play the final video on any kind of NTSC device, like a TV, you're better off leaving it telecine'd. Most DVD players and modern TV sets will telecine 24 fps native footage anyway. The only time you'd want to leave it in native 24fps footage is if you're gonna transcode to film.