Looking for a memory stick 16:9 matte at DVinfo.net

Myron Iwankewich · May 24th, 2004, 08:29 PM

I would really appreciate it if someone could direct me to a site where I could download a 16:9 matte to memory stick, or if someone could e-mail one that they have.

thank-you in advance
Myron

iwank4@hotmail.com

Mark Grgurev · May 24th, 2004, 08:45 PM

I remember coming across a site with about twelve mattes on it. I don't recall what it was called, but I think I found it by searching "widescreen" or "widescreen PD150" on google.

Gustavo Godinho · May 24th, 2004, 10:40 PM

Sorry, the only one I know is this:

http://www.geocities.com/kin869/cinemascope

Myron Iwankewich · May 25th, 2004, 07:50 PM

Mark and Gustavo, thanks to you I now have my mattes.

Regards, Myron

Alex Dunn · July 9th, 2004, 02:44 PM

I have to say, I used to use mattes in-camera but now I realize how foolish that is. What NLE doesn't have a crop feature? Shoot full frame and crop in post for all these reasons:

1. you may need a full frame version someday
2. you can easily crop to 16:9 or 2.35:1 in post
3. if you crop in post, you can move the original frame around and reframe (give character some headroom) if necessary. You can't do that if you've already painted your frame black in-camera.
4. did I mention you can crop in post?

Patrick MCMurray · July 11th, 2004, 09:59 AM

youll use less of your very limited dv25 bandwith compressing the matte... making the footage you want to keep better quality.
sur your stuck with your framing, but you can rewind and check before sending every one home for the day...

Kin Kwan · July 11th, 2004, 04:19 PM

I like the fact that I can see how the shot actually looks like when I use a matte instead of just estimating and cropping in post.

And besides, rendering sucks. :)

Jesse Bekas · July 11th, 2004, 05:55 PM

I had a hard time getting mattes for my camcorder. I created a couple, 1.85:1, and 2.35:1 ... you can download them here...

http://www.fortvir.net/modules.php?set_albumName=album07&op=modload&name=gallery&file=index&include=view_album.php

I don't shoot with them on, but I do use them by turning them on before the shooting, getting my frame, and shutting them off right before I shoot. I then manually crop in my NLE later, with the added comfort that I could always reframe the cropping if I so chose. Better than electrical taping off part of the LCD while you shoot, and leaves you with the most options.

These templates' bars are created in Photoshop, and are RGB 9,9,9. They should work assuming you're cam keys out RGB 0,0,0, (the center) and retains info over 9,9,9. If not, you can create your own to your cams specific needs using a tutorial from this site. Just search these boards for ".TTL", or "Title-Mix" for more info.

Ignacio Rodriguez · July 11th, 2004, 10:22 PM

> youll use less of your very limited dv25 bandwith compressing the
> matte... making the footage you want to keep better quality.

Are you sure of this? Doesn't the DV codec process chunks in 8x8 blocks or something like that for spatial compression? Thus, you end filling part of the data stream with many many zeros, I think. Am I wrong?

Cosmin Rotaru · July 16th, 2004, 05:28 AM

"youll use less of your very limited dv25 bandwith compressing the matte... making the footage you want to keep better quality."

I'd also like some feedback on this. It does sound logical. The blcak bars should get less of the bitrate...

Rob Lohman · August 1st, 2004, 08:30 AM

I also have some masks up and a calculator

Shealan Forshaw · September 21st, 2004, 11:05 AM

Rob, great tool. Thanks for putting the work in.

May 24th, 2004, 08:29 PM	#1
Myron Iwankewich New Boot Join Date: May 2004 Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada Posts: 20	Looking for a memory stick 16:9 matte I would really appreciate it if someone could direct me to a site where I could download a 16:9 matte to memory stick, or if someone could e-mail one that they have. thank-you in advance Myron iwank4@hotmail.com

May 24th, 2004, 10:40 PM	#3
Gustavo Godinho Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Belém - Pa - Brazil Posts: 130	Sorry, the only one I know is this: http://www.geocities.com/kin869/cinemascope __________________ lml

July 11th, 2004, 09:59 AM	#6
Patrick MCMurray Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Sacramento CA Posts: 66	youll use less of your very limited dv25 bandwith compressing the matte... making the footage you want to keep better quality. sur your stuck with your framing, but you can rewind and check before sending every one home for the day... __________________ Remember, Tuesdays are Soylent Green days!

July 11th, 2004, 04:19 PM	#7
Kin Kwan Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Plano, TX Posts: 120	I like the fact that I can see how the shot actually looks like when I use a matte instead of just estimating and cropping in post. And besides, rendering sucks. :) __________________ Kin Kwan

July 11th, 2004, 10:22 PM	#9
Ignacio Rodriguez Contributor Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Santiago, Chile Posts: 932	> youll use less of your very limited dv25 bandwith compressing the > matte... making the footage you want to keep better quality. Are you sure of this? Doesn't the DV codec process chunks in 8x8 blocks or something like that for spatial compression? Thus, you end filling part of the data stream with many many zeros, I think. Am I wrong? __________________ Ignacio Rodríguez in the third world. @micronauta on Twitter. Main hardware: brain, eyes, hands.

May 24th, 2004, 08:45 PM	#2
Mark Grgurev Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Fairview,nj Posts: 137	I remember coming across a site with about twelve mattes on it. I don't recall what it was called, but I think I found it by searching "widescreen" or "widescreen PD150" on google.

May 25th, 2004, 07:50 PM	#4
Myron Iwankewich New Boot Join Date: May 2004 Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada Posts: 20	Mark and Gustavo, thanks to you I now have my mattes. Regards, Myron

July 9th, 2004, 02:44 PM	#5
Alex Dunn Major Player Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 202	I have to say, I used to use mattes in-camera but now I realize how foolish that is. What NLE doesn't have a crop feature? Shoot full frame and crop in post for all these reasons: 1. you may need a full frame version someday 2. you can easily crop to 16:9 or 2.35:1 in post 3. if you crop in post, you can move the original frame around and reframe (give character some headroom) if necessary. You can't do that if you've already painted your frame black in-camera. 4. did I mention you can crop in post?

July 11th, 2004, 05:55 PM	#8
Jesse Bekas Major Player Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Ridgefield Park, New Jersey, USA Posts: 572	I had a hard time getting mattes for my camcorder. I created a couple, 1.85:1, and 2.35:1 ... you can download them here... http://www.fortvir.net/modules.php?set_albumName=album07&op=modload&name=gallery&file=index&include=view_album.php I don't shoot with them on, but I do use them by turning them on before the shooting, getting my frame, and shutting them off right before I shoot. I then manually crop in my NLE later, with the added comfort that I could always reframe the cropping if I so chose. Better than electrical taping off part of the LCD while you shoot, and leaves you with the most options. These templates' bars are created in Photoshop, and are RGB 9,9,9. They should work assuming you're cam keys out RGB 0,0,0, (the center) and retains info over 9,9,9. If not, you can create your own to your cams specific needs using a tutorial from this site. Just search these boards for ".TTL", or "Title-Mix" for more info.

July 16th, 2004, 05:28 AM	#10
Cosmin Rotaru Major Player Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Romania, Timisoara Posts: 453	"youll use less of your very limited dv25 bandwith compressing the matte... making the footage you want to keep better quality." I'd also like some feedback on this. It does sound logical. The blcak bars should get less of the bitrate... __________________ Cosmin Rotaru

August 1st, 2004, 08:30 AM	#11
Rob Lohman RED Code Chef Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Holland Posts: 12,514	I also have some masks up and a calculator __________________ Rob Lohman, visuar@iname.com DV Info Wrangler & RED Code Chef Join the DV Challenge \| Lady X Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Buy from the best: DVinfo.net sponsors

September 21st, 2004, 11:05 AM	#12
Shealan Forshaw New Boot Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 21	Rob, great tool. Thanks for putting the work in.