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Ron Little · July 20th, 2009, 06:43 AM

I have been hired to make a movie the budget is 100,000. I have most of the equipment I need if the Sony V1U is up to the task. The project will most likely go strait to DVD. But there is always that chance that this will be the one that makes it. Having said that what frame rate do you think I should shoot. 24p, 24pa, 30p? Now that we have digital cinema does it matter?

Ron Little · July 22nd, 2009, 10:15 AM

Wow, I am surprised no one has chimed in to help me out. Oh well thanks anyway.

Brian Boyko · July 22nd, 2009, 10:22 AM

Give it a while!

The Sony V1U is a good camera. Shoot 24p native.

Greg Donovan · July 22nd, 2009, 12:21 PM

Isn't 24pa the mode that supports pulldown removal and would allow for transfer to film and editing in a true 24p timeline?

I would think that is mode you would want to use.

Greg

Ron Little · July 22nd, 2009, 01:12 PM

Hey thanks for responding let me ask you this would you edit on a 24p timeline? The reason I ask is I just finished a commercial for NBC and they wanted me to shoot in 24p not 24pa and edit on a 29.97 timeline. When I asked why they said they were just going for the look.

Cris Hendrix · August 6th, 2009, 02:11 AM

Well for television broadcast it'll have to end up being 29.97 anyway.. True 24p would only really be used in transfer to film, Blu ray or for the web

Ron Little · August 6th, 2009, 07:22 AM

So shooting for DVD with the possibility of broadcast release would you shoot 30p or 24p edited on a 29.97 time line?

Adam Gold · August 6th, 2009, 11:48 AM

Neither. For maximum versatility for a variety of output formats you should always shoot 60i, which is most easily converted to other formats.

30p is not part of the BD spec.

Bill Thesken · August 6th, 2009, 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adam Gold

Neither. For maximum versatility for a variety of output formats you should always shoot 60i, which is most easily converted to other formats.

30p is not part of the BD spec.

60i works for me. What about shutter speed and gamma curve?

Adam Gold · August 6th, 2009, 03:26 PM

I just always use the defaults: 1/60th and normal (auto) gamma. I like to do all my tweaking in post so my priority is obtaining footage that is as "neutral" as possible, so I'm not locked into anything.

Others will disagree.

July 20th, 2009, 06:43 AM	#1
Ron Little Major Player Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Pensacola Fl. Posts: 627	Does it matter? I have been hired to make a movie the budget is 100,000. I have most of the equipment I need if the Sony V1U is up to the task. The project will most likely go strait to DVD. But there is always that chance that this will be the one that makes it. Having said that what frame rate do you think I should shoot. 24p, 24pa, 30p? Now that we have digital cinema does it matter?

July 22nd, 2009, 10:22 AM	#3
Brian Boyko Major Player Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 773	Give it a while! The Sony V1U is a good camera. Shoot 24p native. __________________ Equip: Panny GH1, Canon HG20, Juicedlink, AT897, Sennh. EW/GW100, Zoom H2, Vegas 8.1

July 22nd, 2009, 10:15 AM	#2
Ron Little Major Player Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Pensacola Fl. Posts: 627	Wow, I am surprised no one has chimed in to help me out. Oh well thanks anyway.

July 22nd, 2009, 12:21 PM	#4
Greg Donovan Regular Crew Join Date: May 2009 Location: Sydney, NS, Canada Posts: 53	Isn't 24pa the mode that supports pulldown removal and would allow for transfer to film and editing in a true 24p timeline? I would think that is mode you would want to use. Greg

July 22nd, 2009, 01:12 PM	#5
Ron Little Major Player Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Pensacola Fl. Posts: 627	Hey thanks for responding let me ask you this would you edit on a 24p timeline? The reason I ask is I just finished a commercial for NBC and they wanted me to shoot in 24p not 24pa and edit on a 29.97 timeline. When I asked why they said they were just going for the look.

August 6th, 2009, 02:11 AM	#6
Cris Hendrix Regular Crew Join Date: May 2009 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 66	Well for television broadcast it'll have to end up being 29.97 anyway.. True 24p would only really be used in transfer to film, Blu ray or for the web

August 6th, 2009, 07:22 AM	#7
Ron Little Major Player Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Pensacola Fl. Posts: 627	So shooting for DVD with the possibility of broadcast release would you shoot 30p or 24p edited on a 29.97 time line?

August 6th, 2009, 11:48 AM	#8
Adam Gold Inner Circle Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Woodinville, WA USA Posts: 3,467	Neither. For maximum versatility for a variety of output formats you should always shoot 60i, which is most easily converted to other formats. 30p is not part of the BD spec.

August 6th, 2009, 03:26 PM	#10
Adam Gold Inner Circle Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Woodinville, WA USA Posts: 3,467	I just always use the defaults: 1/60th and normal (auto) gamma. I like to do all my tweaking in post so my priority is obtaining footage that is as "neutral" as possible, so I'm not locked into anything. Others will disagree.