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Old July 15th, 2009, 01:18 PM   #1
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So, I've got a fun little game for you guys. So much can be debated about different cameras, and it seems one of the biggest compliments a camera can receive from most indie folks is how "film-like" it is.

I thought it would be fun to play a little guessing game, then. I'm going to post a sequence that I shot with a particular HD camera. The only tweaking done to it is a shift in the midtones towards yellow, and a decrease in color to about 25% of the original saturation. EDIT: The little tweaking that I'm talking about there is in reference to footage on the timeline. In camera quite a bit of tweaking was done to get the "film" look about where I wanted.

http://www.hall-e-woode.com/media/mtopen.mov

So, what camera is it?
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Old July 15th, 2009, 01:52 PM   #2
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So, I've got a fun little game for you guys. So much can be debated about different cameras, and it seems one of the biggest compliments a camera can receive from most indie folks is how "film-like" it is.

I thought it would be fun to play a little guessing game, then. I'm going to post a sequence that I shot with a particular HD camera. The only tweaking done to it is a shift in the midtones towards yellow, and a decrease in color to about 25% of the original saturation. EDIT: The little tweaking that I'm talking about there is in reference to footage on the timeline. In camera quite a bit of tweaking was done to get the "film" look about where I wanted.

http://www.hall-e-woode.com/media/mtopen.mov

So, what camera is it?
Hmm...

I don't see interlacing artifacts, so it's probably able to record progressive. Framerate looks like it's 30p. Long DOF so I'm guessing it's a 1/3" sensor, and noisy blacks.

I'm guessing a Canon HF10, though a Sony HR11 might also fit.
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Old July 15th, 2009, 02:44 PM   #3
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Actually a bit more high end than that. I will say the frame rate is actually 24p at 1/48th. Also shot with stretched blacks, which I have noticed causes some noise in the blacks (however, I feel it is worth the increased shadow detail -- I hate pressed blacks that edge out detail).
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Old July 23rd, 2009, 07:09 PM   #4
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Tough one! I'd say 1/3" sensor (dof), 720/24p (no interlacing) at 1/60th with some gamma-settings. A bit noisy but lens seems to be decent (no CA in your tele shots). The video looks good, though!

The footage doesn't look like a JVC HD camcorder, so my guess would be one of the Pana AG series camcorders. Not the higher-end HPX300 or 500, more like a HPX170 or 200, maybe a Sony V1U?. Don't know and I am curious!
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Old July 23rd, 2009, 10:38 PM   #5
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So, what camera is it?
Canon 5D Mark II?
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Old July 23rd, 2009, 11:07 PM   #6
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Not Canon 5D... depth of field to deep.

Guessing Canon XH A1
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Old July 24th, 2009, 04:31 AM   #7
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Old July 27th, 2009, 07:58 AM   #8
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So, I've got a fun little game for you guys. So much can be debated about different cameras, and it seems one of the biggest compliments a camera can receive from most indie folks is how "film-like" it is.

I thought it would be fun to play a little guessing game, then. I'm going to post a sequence that I shot with a particular HD camera. The only tweaking done to it is a shift in the midtones towards yellow, and a decrease in color to about 25% of the original saturation. EDIT: The little tweaking that I'm talking about there is in reference to footage on the timeline. In camera quite a bit of tweaking was done to get the "film" look about where I wanted.

http://www.hall-e-woode.com/media/mtopen.mov

So, what camera is it?
Your signature "Canon XH-A1, Final Cut Studio 2, Vegas Pro 8.0 " makes me think it's an A1 ...without even looking at the clip.
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Old July 27th, 2009, 11:48 AM   #9
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Your signature "Canon XH-A1, Final Cut Studio 2, Vegas Pro 8.0 " makes me think it's an A1 ...without even looking at the clip.
Ha ha - that made me think "anything but the A1..."

So it's been 12 days since the original post. Are you going to tell us?
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Old July 29th, 2009, 01:18 AM   #10
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A Sony V1 shooting in progressive. Picture profile customised for the required look.

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Old August 12th, 2009, 07:25 AM   #11
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Still waiting - Now what?
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Old August 12th, 2009, 09:03 PM   #12
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His statistics say he hasn't been on for three weeks. We may never know.
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Old August 13th, 2009, 10:26 AM   #13
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We may never know, but considering the cleanliness of the encode, i'm willing to take a stab at something that was filmed in 720P....Just a guess.
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Old August 14th, 2009, 11:07 PM   #14
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How annoying. Almost like those twitter accounts with only one post and never getting updated. You know, like .... "Chest pain. Should I go to hospital?".

Bit of a shame. Do hope that he turns up again.

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Old August 22nd, 2009, 12:42 PM   #15
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this is not a fun game.
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