Magic Bullet Overdone? at DVinfo.net
DV Info Net

Go Back   DV Info Net > Special Interest Areas > Techniques for Independent Production

Techniques for Independent Production
The challenges of creating Digital Cinema and other narrative forms.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old December 18th, 2003, 12:30 AM   #1
Regular Crew
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Salt Lake City, Utah
Posts: 61
Magic Bullet Overdone?

I just recently got the demo for magic bullet and whatever footage i apply it to, all of the looks seem way overdone. The blacks seem to take over, everything goes black, loss of detail, or completely washed out. I dont have my ntsc monitor hooked up, so it might look better on that, but on my monitor it looks terrible. Everything is just overdone. Am i doing something wrong, or is my footage bad in the first place? heres a sample pic of what im starting with, maybe i have the picture overexposed, too much contrast or something to start with? please let me know, magic bullet seems to be awesome, but i cant get it to work for me.

http://homepage.mac.com/rpflo/romeo.jpg
__________________
--------------------------
-Riley Florence
SLC, Utah.
http://www.secondsection.com
Riley Florence is offline   Reply With Quote
Old December 18th, 2003, 09:41 AM   #2
Regular Crew
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Collinsville, Illinois
Posts: 86
Hi Riley,

I don't have Magic Bullet, but I DO have Cinelook, which does the same thing as Magic Bullet. In Cinelook, there are several presets that change the way the final video looks. From what I've read, over-doing it is common with these software plug-ins. I got Cinelook (lots of $$$) before I discovered this technique, and I get just as good results using other software that I already have (Premiere and AfterEffects).

This site has a tut on acheiving the "Film-look" using After Effects, but you can take these principles and use them in any good editing program, like Premiere, Vegas Video, etc.

http://www.dvinfo.net/articles/filmlook/broadway1.php

Cheers,
Mark Jefferson
Mark Jefferson is offline   Reply With Quote
Old December 18th, 2003, 09:45 AM   #3
Regular Crew
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Salt Lake City, Utah
Posts: 61
Thanks Mark, i went through those steps and recieved pretty good results. I was just thinking of trying all the options. Thanks again
__________________
--------------------------
-Riley Florence
SLC, Utah.
http://www.secondsection.com
Riley Florence is offline   Reply With Quote
Old December 18th, 2003, 01:35 PM   #4
Regular Crew
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Salt Lake City, Utah
Posts: 61
alright, i've been working on it some more, and i think im starting to get the hang of it, heres some samples if anyone wants to take a look.

http://homepage.mac.com/rpflo/tests.jpg
__________________
--------------------------
-Riley Florence
SLC, Utah.
http://www.secondsection.com
Riley Florence is offline   Reply With Quote
Old December 18th, 2003, 06:58 PM   #5
Regular Crew
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Rowland Heights, CA
Posts: 62
bottom 4 look nice. can you post full sized ones?
Danny Tan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old December 18th, 2003, 08:13 PM   #6
Regular Crew
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Salt Lake City, Utah
Posts: 61
sure no problem
they are in the following order

untouched
basic
basic w/ white diffusion
neo
bleachbypass

http://homepage.mac.com/rpflo/romeo.jpg
http://homepage.mac.com/rpflo/basic.jpg
http://homepage.mac.com/rpflo/whitediffusion.jpg
http://homepage.mac.com/rpflo/neo.jpg
http://homepage.mac.com/rpflo/bleachbypass.jpg
__________________
--------------------------
-Riley Florence
SLC, Utah.
http://www.secondsection.com
Riley Florence is offline   Reply With Quote
Old December 18th, 2003, 08:15 PM   #7
Regular Crew
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Rowland Heights, CA
Posts: 62
neo and bleach look good. just tone down the effect a little (the green and the whiteness)
Danny Tan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old December 18th, 2003, 08:20 PM   #8
Regular Crew
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Salt Lake City, Utah
Posts: 61
agreed, those are the presets, obviously there is going to be tweaking for each set of footage. heh, my cousin has a funny face in these pictures i think. maybe its even funnier because of the line hes delivering, and how terrible we all are at acting, thats why i put my cousins in front of the camera and i stay behind. heck if you wanna see the video this is from, all untouched, take a look.

http://homepage.mac.com/rpflo/romeo.mp4

it was for my cousins little sister's english class, its a "teaser" for a romeo and juliet movie.
__________________
--------------------------
-Riley Florence
SLC, Utah.
http://www.secondsection.com
Riley Florence is offline   Reply With Quote
Old December 22nd, 2003, 02:04 PM   #9
Regular Crew
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Collinsville, Illinois
Posts: 86
Glad to be of help.

Cheers,
Mark
Mark Jefferson is offline   Reply
Reply

DV Info Net refers all where-to-buy and where-to-rent questions exclusively to these trusted full line dealers and rental houses...

B&H Photo Video
(866) 521-7381
New York, NY USA

Scan Computers Int. Ltd.
+44 0871-472-4747
Bolton, Lancashire UK


DV Info Net also encourages you to support local businesses and buy from an authorized dealer in your neighborhood.
  You are here: DV Info Net > Special Interest Areas > Techniques for Independent Production

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

 



All times are GMT -6. The time now is 11:37 PM.


DV Info Net -- Real Names, Real People, Real Info!
1998-2025 The Digital Video Information Network