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December 16th, 2006, 11:41 PM
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Location: Atlanta GA
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Steve, I fail to see the difference...
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December 17th, 2006, 04:47 PM
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Location: Baltimore, Maryland
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This One Is Worse than the $150/a Day Onee
Wow, at least the other guy (or gal) was paying:
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And to reply to an earlier poster about working for free...many of us do this. But only if we know the project is going to be worth our time. A lot of films want to make have absolutely no budget. No money for crew, no money for actors, and no money for production design, etc. Sorry, but it is very difficult to make a worthwhile fictional movie for no money. It can be pulled off, but the chances are about 1 in 1,000. Most of us have a passion for this business. But we never forgot that it is still a business. People need to eat and have a roof under their heads. You can't do that without getting paid. Well...if you mooch off your parents/a roommate/a significant other you can but...I digress. I was going to help on a shoot recently where the ad stated "possible employment if the show gets picked up." The idea sounded good, so I sent the producer an email. The story changed in the reply I got. Reading between the lines, it read: "If the show gets picked up, you'll get paid for your time for the pilot but more than likely won't be able to work on the rest of the series. Because the production companies we'll be shopping it to have their own crews. So thanks for letting us use your equipment to get our project off the ground, schmuck." Those people were still looking for a volunteer 3 days before their shoot...and it got pushed back. They were still begging me to volunteer...I stood my ground. Had they offered guaranteed pay (maybe just $50.00 for gas or something) with guaranteed crew position if show got picked up, it would have been worth it. That's the other thing. All of these producers seemingly wait until the last minute to gather their crew. What's up with that? On PAID shoots positions are booked way in advance. This leaves producers time to interview everyone (not just judge them based on who has the lowest day rate), discuss the project, get talent/crew to know each other, etc. Trying to assemble a large crew in such a short amount of time...if you don't already know people...is ridiculous IMHO. |
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December 19th, 2006, 05:22 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Houston
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Sometimes it is last minute
Hey Adam,
I agree with you and everyone else, there are a lot of producers trying to make something happen with no incentive to pay crew, further someone's career, or anything. I've been a local producer since the mid 80's, and I rarely if ever ask a crew person, regardless of the position to cut their rate. It doesn't make good business sense as a producer. And one of the benefits of treating your local video/film community with respect is when a client calls in an emergency (and it happens a lot), I have a big established loyal crew base built over a 20 year period to call on. That's what these other idiot producers don't get.
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January 4th, 2007, 09:18 AM
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Slash Rules!
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Location: Houston, Texas
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Are these ridiculously low wages, or am I crazy? I made 6.25 hourly at f*cking starbucks when I worked there 9 years ago!
Photography- Makeup Artist- Sales Associates Reply to: lauram@s121.com Date: 2007-01-03, 4:30PM CST Creative photographers for portrait photography, Sales consultants and Makeup Artists needed. Part time and full time positions avaliable. www.s121.com. * Location: The Woodlands * Compensation: 5.00 per hour plus commission * Principals only. Recruiters, please don't contact this job poster. * Please, no phone calls about this job! * Please do not contact job poster about other services, products or commercial interests. |
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January 4th, 2007, 09:19 AM
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Location: Snellville, Georgia
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Ahhh.. you're not counting all that commission :)
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January 10th, 2007, 06:50 PM
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Location: Brooklyn, NY, USA
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Well they provide with camera at least. You get $25 dollars per interview. Keep in mind each interview is 1 hour PLUS your travel time. Can you carry the backdrop by hand or do you need a car? What about lights? Thoughtful that they find provided backdrop more important than light kit.
With "leading" executives and lawyers, someone is making money but it's not you! Film In-Person Interviews With Leading Executives & Lawyers Reply to: job-260614853@craigslist.org Date: 2007-01-10, 4:18PM EST Executive seminar company seeks individual to conduct in-person interviews with leading executives and lawyers in Manhattan. Interviews last 1 hour, and interviewer would be provided with detailed interview questions to ask. Interviewer would be responsible for conducting the interview (and setting up the camera in the background to film it – which is very simple to do). Looking for someone who has a flexible schedule (during day time business hours) to accommodate schedules of the executives and can do at least 20-30 interviews a month (at an average of 1 hour an interview, plus your transportation time). All interviews are set up from Boston offices and you are provided with a date/time and camera for filming. Compensation is $25 an interview and a byline in the video credits. Interviewer would be trained on how to conduct interviews and do filming. Extremely interesting topics and ability to learn insights from top executives and lawyers. We are seeking someone who is extremely reliable and who can carry themselves professionally in front of the executives – no previous experience necessary. Position starts asap. Please email cover letter, resume and hours available. Location: Manhattan Compensation: $25/Interview |
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January 10th, 2007, 10:47 PM
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Location: New Iberia, LA
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I don't know if the last minute scramble is simply the result of these types of producers inexperience, or the idea that they think they can pull a fast one on you because you won't have time to check them out before hand. I guess its mostly the first, because I don't think that most of these people have bad intentions...they just don't know what they are doing. |
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January 19th, 2007, 07:15 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Brooklyn, NY, USA
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This bothers me. TV show looking for EXPERIENCED run and gun shooters for $300 a day. I do better than that with my PD-170 shooting demo reels. If stranger still is if you look at the bottom under Compensation it says NO PAY.
_______________________________________________________________ Realty Camera Operator $300/day rate (Battery Park) Reply to: gigs-265236108@craigslist.org Date: 2007-01-19, 3:52PM EST Seeking an experienced shooter/producer for a upcoming realty series. We need someone who can both shoot running gun while keeping focused on the action and focus on story line development. Ideal candidate will have outdoor experince. This a serious gig with pay, $300 day rate. There will be tarveling involved, up to a week at a time in the states. We are a British company shooting for UK TV. Please send cover letter and resume and a link to online work. We will not consider responses without a reel. Interviewing will start next week. Please be experienced!! Thank you it's NOT ok to contact this poster with services or other commercial interests Compensation: no pay |
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January 20th, 2007, 07:15 PM
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I love this thread. It provides so much entertainment.
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January 22nd, 2007, 07:08 AM
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Location: New Iberia, LA
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I remember making a joke along time ago that you wouldn't ask a carpenter to work for free, or for "copy and credit". Apparently, I underestimated some people. People will ask for anything for film.
-------------------------------------------------------------------- We are looking for mechanical/handy hands to help build a boat/junk raft which will be heavily featured in an upcoming Indpendent movie being made by award winning directors. The position is unpaid, but the position will be credited. The position is open to fulltime or parttime employees. If you are interested please contac XXX@xxx.com * Location: New Orleans * Principals only. Recruiters, please don't contact this job poster. * Please, no phone calls about this job! * Please do not contact job poster about other services, products or commercial interests. |
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January 22nd, 2007, 08:23 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Brooklyn, NY, USA
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Things are really getting BAD
How's this for BAD. Sad, isn't it.
____________________________ GET ME A JOB! I'll give you some cash! (Midtown) Reply to: gigs-266847327@craigslist.org Date: 2007-01-22, 8:03PM EST Get me a Job and I'll give you $200 Cash! I am a DP with my own HVX200 HiDef Camcorder, I shoot, edit, etc... Lets do some buisness! |
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January 22nd, 2007, 08:41 PM
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Location: New Iberia, LA
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January 28th, 2007, 12:13 AM
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Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Las Vegas, NV
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Here's a laugh from Vegas:
"Small BIZ needs 30sec Commercial -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Reply to: gigs-269380475@craigslist.org Date: 2007-01-27, 7:43PM PST I have a small biz and need a 30sec commercial made. I would like the commercial to use several shots of various people hard at work (e.g. construction worker lifting something heavy, cop wrestling a suspect, hotel worker cleaning, delivery person, office woman hard at work, diff people doing various sports/outdoor activies such as water skiing, tennis, etc. All these scenes can be from archives (they do not need to be shot). After showing a few of these scenes, the commercial will say "Yoru work hard and play hard...you deserve a good...BLANK-BLANK" then followed by a scene of my business location. The commercial will be submitted for airing on Fox. We'll pay the cost of showing the commercial of course. Location: Las Vegas it's NOT ok to contact this poster with services or other commercial interests Compensation: no pay " I love this for 2 reasons: 1. There's no pay and they don't even offer a flimsy excuse as to why the hell you should do this for free (ie "for experience/build your reel"). They just assume we shoot/edit for laughs. 2. "We'l pay the cost of showing the comercial of course". I just found that stating of the obvious to be hilarious. Of course, at this rate we'll soon see on Craigslist where the clients not only expect us to shoot/edit for free, but maybe PAY THEM for the priveledge and kick in for the airtime to boot. |
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January 28th, 2007, 08:47 PM
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Location: Brooklyn, NY, USA
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I can just see the craigslist ad.
. . . . please be willing to pay for the spot time on Oprah or the Super Bowel. You will get great national exposure. Quote:
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January 29th, 2007, 11:29 AM
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Location: Madison, WI
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I look at CL at least once a day here and it seems that all the ads are that bad, or worse. I checked on a few during CES/AVN and they would pay $200/day IF you bring your own equip (boom mic and high-end cam), and they didn't provide you with a ticket to get into the show (that you are supose to be taping at). People complain about the non-talent they get off CL (I've heard it first-hand), how the video turns out lousy, etc. Well, I just have to say that you get what you pay for. I know if I had hired $100/day talent, I wouldn't be expecting $500/day results.
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